This conspiracy theorist may have actually had a point about the OT

Bo Staff. · 08-02-2014, 11:35 AM

I was watching an episode of the OT on youtube, and a conspiracy theorist wrote in the comment section that although he liked the show, it was too bad that there was much illuminati and New World Order symbolism in it. Of course, I didn't believe him then, and I still don't believe him now, but if you analyze the show closely, you can almost see what he's getting at and why he thinks it contains subliminal messages about the illuminati and NWO.

1. The Technodrome has a large, all-seeing eye at the top
2. The "Curse of the Evil Eye" episodes contain a powerful, pyramid shaped device
3. In the episode "Beyond the Donatello Nebula," Donnie's friend Algae is a reptilian shape shifter.
4. In the episode "Bye, Bye Fly," the space ship resembles a pyramid, and it's main power source is a small, pyramid shaped object.

I'm sure I noticed more in my time watching the OT, but I simply can't remember all of them.

*Netkeeper* · 08-02-2014, 11:47 AM

I think the 2003 show had more secret ties to the Illuminati, personally.

And it's all a myth propagated by the Illuminati itself in order to brainwash the minds of young children.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 08-02-2014, 11:48 AM

Any conspiracy theorist can come up with any bits of evidence to "prove" anything. I've heard about what is supposed to be indicated by the pyramid and eye on the U. S. dollar bill...

Tazi · 08-02-2014, 11:53 AM

*Autbot_Benz* · 08-02-2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazi

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ugh Conspiracy theroists are loons always trying to pass their fiction off as fact.

Bo Staff. · 08-02-2014, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper

I think the 2003 show had more secret ties to the Illuminati, personally.

And it's all a myth propagated by the Illuminati itself in order to brainwash the minds of young children.

Well, there is an episode of the 2K3 series called "New World Order."

*Netkeeper* · 08-02-2014, 12:38 PM

Exactly. The Illuminati is out for us. They obviously already got to Peter Laird.

*Ninjinister* · 08-02-2014, 02:58 PM

Wasn't the Illuminati made up by some 1920s racist English lady?

*Netkeeper* · 08-02-2014, 03:50 PM

No! Don't let THEM find out you said such a thing!

*Cure* · 08-02-2014, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Wasn't the Illuminati made up by some 1920s racist English lady?

I thought it was invented by DJ CLUE DJ Clue DJ Clue. DESERT STORM Desert Storm Desert Storm.

Konchadunga · 08-02-2014, 04:22 PM

Oh geez; this crap?

The actual Illuminati was never known to use the All-Seeing Eye as a symbol, and even if they did, they did it only because it was considered cool and mysterious. It's a far more ancient symbol that just denotes a higher power in general, and was a fixture on Masonic Lodges, churches, synagogues, and other things. Now it pretty much is meaningless. If I was to paint an eye on my forehead, would that make a me a member of the Illuminati? I'm pretty sure some religious sects would say yes; in the lower-case sense of the word, but I do not buy into the occultist belief that any symbol has magic power.

It's just long been so associated with conspiracy and the occult that many media just slap it on anything for the purposes of storytelling. Slapping a big eye on the Technodrome or an obvious expy of MJ-12 only proves an artist is trying to depict megalomania; not endorse it--if he wanted to endorse it, why associate the symbols with the villains and not the heroes? It's no different than modeling the Empire in Star Wars or Scar's Hyene troops after the Nazis. DEPICTION IS NOT ADVOCACY! I cannot believe I need to explain this to so many people.

And here's one more thing to think about: Even if there is still an Illuminati trying to take over the world, or something similar, what the shell would they really have to gain from announcing their presence all over the place? Even if they once used that symbol, nobody could be that dumb to keep using it and remain in power.

*Slade* · 08-02-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

I thought it was invented by DJ CLUE DJ Clue DJ Clue. DESERT STORM Desert Storm Desert Storm.

Hahaha. If nobody else does, I got it.

Bo Staff. · 08-02-2014, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Konchadunga

Oh geez; this crap?

The actual Illuminati was never known to use the All-Seeing Eye as a symbol, and even if they did, they did it only because it was considered cool and mysterious. It's a far more ancient symbol that just denotes a higher power in general, and was a fixture on Masonic Lodges, churches, synagogues, and other things. Now it pretty much is meaningless. If I was to paint an eye on my forehead, would that make a me a member of the Illuminati? I'm pretty sure some religious sects would say yes; in the lower-case sense of the word, but I do not buy into the occultist belief that any symbol has magic power.

It's just long been so associated with conspiracy and the occult that many media just slap it on anything for the purposes of storytelling. Slapping a big eye on the Technodrome or an obvious expy of MJ-12 only proves an artist is trying to depict megalomania; not endorse it--if he wanted to endorse it, why associate the symbols with the villains and not the heroes? It's no different than modeling the Empire in Star Wars or Scar's Hyene troops after the Nazis. DEPICTION IS NOT ADVOCACY! I cannot believe I need to explain this to so many people.

And here's one more thing to think about: Even if there is still an Illuminati trying to take over the world, or something similar, what the shell would they really have to gain from announcing their presence all over the place? Even if they once used that symbol, nobody could be that dumb to keep using it and remain in power.

This is the best response yet. Thanks for the logical answer.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 08-02-2014, 04:46 PM

Cecil Adams' column, The Straight Dope, is where I first heard about the Illuminati.

As for conspiracy theorists, they thrive by telling certain people what they want to hear. Such as how Jews were responsible for Germany's losing of World War One, etc.

*Prowler* · 08-02-2014, 05:15 PM

I'll never understand why some people love conspiracy theories. Okay, I get it, sometimes a conspiracy theory is more interesting than the plain truth, but it's still nothing more than that: a conspiracy theory.

Tazi · 08-02-2014, 05:38 PM

Tho sometimes 'facts' go against scientific observations and logic...

It's even more interesthing when some leaked information goes against the 'truth'.

But then, a lot of those theories are still ********...

*Prowler* · 08-02-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazi

Tho sometimes 'facts' go against scientific observations and logic...

It's even more interesthing when some leaked information goes against the 'truth'.

But then, a lot of those theories are still ********...

Well obviously some stuff looks suspicious and not very credible, but yea, people should take conspiracy theories with a grain of salt. I don't understand why so many people seem to believe that 9/11 was an inside job or that the airplanes weren't what made the WTC buildings collapse.

Tazi · 08-02-2014, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

Well obviously some stuff looks suspicious and not very credible, but yea, people should take conspiracy theories with a grain of salt. I don't understand why so many people seem to believe that 9/11 was an inside job or that the airplanes weren't what made the WTC buildings collapse.

That's an easy one: The designer of the building stated that those buildings are not built to have their full metal structure collapse by a plain crash. All skyscapers are built that way to withstand an unfortunate accident like this. So what is likely, those buildings went down due to inner explosions...

I honestly don't know if it was an inside job, or something else, but it surely seems like the buildings didn't went down in relationof plane crashes, yet they stated it happened by the crashes... why?

It's quiet fishy, unless that architect is wrong, of course.

*Prowler* · 08-02-2014, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazi

That's an easy one: The designer of the building stated that those buildings are not built to have their full metal structure collapse by a plain crash. All skyscapers are built that way to withstand an unfortunate accident like this. So what is likely, those buildings went down due to inner explosions...

I honestly don't know if it was an inside job, or something else, but it surely seems like the buildings didn't went down in relationof plane crashes, yet they stated it happened by the crashes... why?

It's quiet fishy, unless that architect is wrong, of course.

Then again, how many air planes have crashed into skyscrapers in history? I can't think of any others except for a small airplane that crashed into Empire State Bulding.

And there had already been an attack on the WTC back in 1993 with explosives under the buildings. And yet, they managed not to collapse.

A possible explanation would have been the plane crashes serving as a distraction for someone to place powerful bombs in the building, but wouldn't that have been found out by now?

Tazi · 08-02-2014, 06:22 PM

What they say is the buildings went down by the fire caused by the plain crash, but the architect said the metal structure would withstand that heat, and something like this could only be done with explosives.

Now I'm not an architect, neiter do I have a blueprint about the building, so I can't really know or calculate the truth. I see reason why the goverment would and would not do something like this.

There are a good number of proven conspiracies, like the reichstag fire or the watergate scandal, so it's not a bad thing to be a bit sceptic about everything.

08-02-2014, 11:35 AM	#1
Bo Staff. Thug Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 90	This conspiracy theorist may have actually had a point about the OT I was watching an episode of the OT on youtube, and a conspiracy theorist wrote in the comment section that although he liked the show, it was too bad that there was much illuminati and New World Order symbolism in it. Of course, I didn't believe him then, and I still don't believe him now, but if you analyze the show closely, you can almost see what he's getting at and why he thinks it contains subliminal messages about the illuminati and NWO. 1. The Technodrome has a large, all-seeing eye at the top 2. The "Curse of the Evil Eye" episodes contain a powerful, pyramid shaped device 3. In the episode "Beyond the Donatello Nebula," Donnie's friend Algae is a reptilian shape shifter. 4. In the episode "Bye, Bye Fly," the space ship resembles a pyramid, and it's main power source is a small, pyramid shaped object. I'm sure I noticed more in my time watching the OT, but I simply can't remember all of them. __________________ TMNT Dictionary Ninja pizza: Pizza that vanish quickly without trace.

08-02-2014, 11:47 AM	#2
Netkeeper tactical blackquill Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas, but not for much longer Posts: 3,645	I think the 2003 show had more secret ties to the Illuminati, personally. And it's all a myth propagated by the Illuminati itself in order to brainwash the minds of young children. __________________

08-02-2014, 11:53 AM	#4
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	__________________

08-02-2014, 12:38 PM	#7
Netkeeper tactical blackquill Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas, but not for much longer Posts: 3,645	Exactly. The Illuminati is out for us. They obviously already got to Peter Laird. __________________

08-02-2014, 02:58 PM	#8
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Wasn't the Illuminati made up by some 1920s racist English lady? __________________

08-02-2014, 11:48 AM	#3
Type 97 Chi-ha Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brookfield, IL Posts: 1,333	Any conspiracy theorist can come up with any bits of evidence to "prove" anything. I've heard about what is supposed to be indicated by the pyramid and eye on the U. S. dollar bill...

08-02-2014, 03:50 PM	#9
Netkeeper tactical blackquill Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas, but not for much longer Posts: 3,645	No! Don't let THEM find out you said such a thing! __________________

08-02-2014, 04:22 PM	#11
Konchadunga Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 912	Oh geez; this crap? The actual Illuminati was never known to use the All-Seeing Eye as a symbol, and even if they did, they did it only because it was considered cool and mysterious. It's a far more ancient symbol that just denotes a higher power in general, and was a fixture on Masonic Lodges, churches, synagogues, and other things. Now it pretty much is meaningless. If I was to paint an eye on my forehead, would that make a me a member of the Illuminati? I'm pretty sure some religious sects would say yes; in the lower-case sense of the word, but I do not buy into the occultist belief that any symbol has magic power. It's just long been so associated with conspiracy and the occult that many media just slap it on anything for the purposes of storytelling. Slapping a big eye on the Technodrome or an obvious expy of MJ-12 only proves an artist is trying to depict megalomania; not endorse it--if he wanted to endorse it, why associate the symbols with the villains and not the heroes? It's no different than modeling the Empire in Star Wars or Scar's Hyene troops after the Nazis. *DEPICTION IS NOT ADVOCACY!* I cannot believe I need to explain this to so many people. And here's one more thing to think about: Even if there is still an Illuminati trying to take over the world, or something similar, what the shell would they really have to gain from announcing their presence all over the place? Even if they once used that symbol, nobody could be that dumb to keep using it and remain in power. __________________ Last edited by Konchadunga; 08-02-2014 at 04:28 PM.

08-02-2014, 04:46 PM	#14
Type 97 Chi-ha Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brookfield, IL Posts: 1,333	Cecil Adams' column, The Straight Dope, is where I first heard about the Illuminati. As for conspiracy theorists, they thrive by telling certain people what they want to hear. Such as how Jews were responsible for Germany's losing of World War One, etc.

08-02-2014, 05:15 PM	#15
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,999	I'll never understand why some people love conspiracy theories. Okay, I get it, sometimes a conspiracy theory is more interesting than the plain truth, but it's still nothing more than that: a conspiracy theory.

08-02-2014, 05:38 PM	#16
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	Tho sometimes 'facts' go against scientific observations and logic... It's even more interesthing when some leaked information goes against the 'truth'. But then, a lot of those theories are still ********... __________________

08-02-2014, 06:22 PM	#20
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	What they say is the buildings went down by the fire caused by the plain crash, but the architect said the metal structure would withstand that heat, and something like this could only be done with explosives. Now I'm not an architect, neiter do I have a blueprint about the building, so I can't really know or calculate the truth. I see reason why the goverment would and would not do something like this. There are a good number of proven conspiracies, like the reichstag fire or the watergate scandal, so it's not a bad thing to be a bit sceptic about everything. __________________