Turtles Forever Too

[CyberCubed]

Turtles Forever was an incredible movie, but I liked it more as the 2k3 finale rather than the OT crossover.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

Agreed. And Ch'rel's plan shouldn't even have worked by fictional standards. Why would the Mirage Turtles dying destroy whole worlds? Rambo dies in the original book, and he still went on to become a multimedia icon. So did Sherlock Holmes.

And what else is in the 'does not make sense' category is that all of these other 'universes' already exist, with full TMNT tropes, yet at the end they just only finished developing the comic! Even the 2k3 one exists, and that has modern day (2003 and later) real world technology in it that E&L would not have thought of, when the first issue comic was made in the mid '80s!

This movie fails to make sense with itself, as why would one fictional universe have technology 20 years advanced and happening exactly as it would do later in E and L's future?

I'm glad Nick and Co. don't seem to acknowledge that movie, and appear to let sleeping dogs lie when it comes to anything 2k3. Hopefully this continues, and that it can be something primarily the 2k3 fans' thing.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

I'm glad Nick and Co. don't seem to acknowledge that movie, and appear to let sleeping dogs lie when it comes to anything 2k3. Hopefully this continues, and that it can be something primarily the 2k3 fans' thing.

But they do acknowledge the movie, and the movie itself was a fantastic series finale to TMNT 2k3.

[Technogeek29]

Anyone feel like we've been here before?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

But they do acknowledge the movie, and the movie itself was a fantastic series finale to TMNT 2k3.

Not yet it hasn't.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

I'm glad Nick and Co. don't seem to acknowledge that movie, and appear to let sleeping dogs lie when it comes to anything 2k3. Hopefully this continues, and that it can be something primarily the 2k3 fans' thing.

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?

It isn't fair, but I wonder if this is a karma thing for how badly those involved with the 2k3 series apparently treated the OT series.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

It isn't fair, but I wonder if this is a karma thing for how badly those involved with the 2k3 series apparently treated the OT series.

You must not had noticed the crapton of 2k3 haters all over the internet back when it was new that hated it solely for being so different from the 87 toon.

That being said, what are you even going on about?

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Tuxedo Moroboshi

You must not had noticed the crapton of 2k3 haters all over the internet back when it was new that hated it solely for being so different from the 87 toon.

That being said, what are you even going on about?

"What goes around comes around". Karma. I also wasn't around during that time either so I didn't know about the "hate" that you mentioned.

I've never seen Turtles Forever or much of the 2k3 series because I couldn't get into it, which is why I said "apparently" and can't state anything as fact regarding either. I made the statement solely because of the Turtle Forever special and how those here said that it portrayed the OT turtles in a bad light.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?

Tell me about it.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

"What goes around comes around". Karma. I also wasn't around during that time either so I didn't know about the "hate" that you mentioned.

I've never seen Turtles Forever or much of the 2k3 series because I couldn't get into it, which is why I said "apparently" and can't state anything as fact regarding either. I made the statement solely because of the Turtle Forever special and how those here said that it portrayed the OT turtles in a bad light.

Oh no, there was DEFINITELY hate around 2k3, especially when it was first released.

I should know. I was one of the people that didn't want to watch it at first because it wasn't stupidly silly.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

It isn't fair, but I wonder if this is a karma thing for how badly those involved with the 2k3 series apparently treated the OT series.

You know, 2 wrongs never make a right. Just saying. Nick could be the more mature franchise and hold out a welcoming hand for all of the fans, not just for the select few.

Maybe I am looking at it the wrong way, but wasn't 2k3 Peter Laird's baby? And wasn't Peter Laird the one that finally sold the franchise to Nick? Kind of crappy to just pay him off and snub the show he seemed to have a passion for, because if it wasn't for him selling to begin with, Nick would never have the juggernaut they got now. Of course, I could be misunderstanding the whole Laird/2k3 connection, and my outlook is completely moot.

[tmntpower1988]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?

I feel annoyed about it too. If Nick have no intention of re-releasing 2k3 on DVD after buying the rights to the series then they're a bunch of pr*cks.

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Oh no, there was DEFINITELY hate around 2k3, especially when it was first released.

I should know. I was one of the people that didn't want to watch it at first because it wasn't stupidly silly.

Same, I used to hate 2k3 when it first aired because it was far more serious than the FW series and another reason was that it didn't have Bebop and Rocksteady lol I remember watching Shredder Strikes thinking to myself "Why is Shredder so scary?"

[alliance]

f*ck the dreaded 2k3 series, im so happy that nick isn't acknowledging that pathetic attempt as a series hell they even RELIED on the older [better] more Popular cartoon from the 80's..


this is how it went from most fans when they first heard about turtles forever:



tom: dude there bringing back the 80's turtles cartoon!!

john: sweet dude!! how there doing this??

tom: there gonna bring them back and join the 4 Kids turtles!!!!!

john: whats the 4Kids turtles????????

tom: I dunno....


hahahahaha!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!

[THGhost]

^
Oh dear.

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Maybe I am looking at it the wrong way, but wasn't 2k3 Peter Laird's baby? And wasn't Peter Laird the one that finally sold the franchise to Nick? Kind of crappy to just pay him off and snub the show he seemed to have a passion for, because if it wasn't for him selling to begin with, Nick would never have the juggernaut they got now. Of course, I could be misunderstanding the whole Laird/2k3 connection, and my outlook is completely moot.

I believe it was. And it is kinda crappy that Nick are ignoring the 2K3 series, given the fact that it had the best storylines and fight scenes. Part of me wishes he hasn't sold the franchise to Nick, then we might have actually got a complete DVD set of the 2K3 series after Turtles Forever came out.

[alliance]

what 2k3 did was so so mean in turtles forever, so for all u upset 4kids fans I say this is what u call kharma, u 2k3 fans in particular have nothing to do with it perhaps u don't even deserve it, but for someone like me whos passionate about my 80s turtles having to deal with 2k3 fans pretending to not notice the OBVIOUS bashing of the OT its nice to see 2k3 fans squirm even just alil bit.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by alliance

what 2k3 did was so so mean in turtles forever, so for all u upset 4kids fans I say this is what u call kharma, u 2k3 fans in particular have nothing to do with it perhaps u don't even deserve it, but for someone like me whos passionate about my 80s turtles having to deal with 2k3 fans pretending to not notice the OBVIOUS bashing of the OT its nice to see 2k3 fans squirm even just alil bit.

You sound like an angry butthurt.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?

Because by proxy, it renders Turtles Forever irrelevant.

By itself, sans Forever, it is just another ordinary Turtles series. I wouldn't have anything against it. But then it went on to mess with two sacred cows of TMNTdom that I hold dear.

The first is disrespecting the OT.

The second is by outright ripping apart the premise of TMNT by openly declaring in-universe everything is the product of a comic book. Part of the appeal of a story is imagining it exists, and that can't be done when the universe itself is saying it doesn't.

That's why I'm glad it's not acknowledged.

[alliance]

Originally Posted by Turo602

You sound like an angry butthurt.

I am and completely..

[Coola Yagami]

Who cares? The 2K3 series came and went. Whatever. Let it die.

Besides, the 2K3 series did whatever it could to set it apart from the 80's version...so now the 2012 is doing what it can to set it apart from the 2K3.

The main reason this series caters to the 80;s is because if it wasn't for that show, there wouldn't be any tmnt cartoons or movies now, period. It still would have been some indapendant black and white comic that would have eventually have faded out and been forgotten like many other indie comics that never made it to cartoons or movies. The 80's cartoon put it on the map, and this new show is nice enough to acknowledge it.