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Old 08-09-2014, 11:24 AM   #41
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Paramount was wise to move the release date from June 6 to August 8. Had the movie opened in June, it really would have lost family audiences to both Maleficent and How to Train Your Dragon 2. The end of summer was lacking family-friendly releases and it was the perfect time to release it. They also realized that back in 2009 it worked to open G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra a little over a month later than Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. So, it made sense to release two of their major film releases a month apart again.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:28 AM   #42
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It is such a cool feeling. Everyone I have talked to said they loved the movie. I have very much enjoyed seeing all the kids going crazy at the theater (reminds me of myself, when I was a little sprout). Favorite quote, "Mom, did you see the one time? Raph looked right at me!" Cowabunga!
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Indeed, And its no doubt we will have sequels, Hopefully they can get a better writer working on the sequel this time, This first movie had more then one writer, So there were some obvious rewrites happening..
Yeah, better writing should boost more story enjoyment. I hope we get Splinter back story more, how he knows about Shredder and Sacks. I reckon he's a pet rat of them... so maybe Splinter observed Saki training, and sees Saks as his disciple.

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For me personally, any success of this movie is a true loss because I'm really not digging the direction and the universe set up for me in this first film.
The majority liking it > you.

So it's not really a loss in reality.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:32 AM   #43
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http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=tmnt2013.htm

So far TMNT has done:

Domestic $25,600,000,
Foreign $12,000,000
Worldwide $37,600,000
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:35 AM   #44
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So it's not really a loss in reality.
I truly think you're underestimating the people who thoroughly hated this film.

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I reckon he's a pet rat of them... so maybe Splinter observed Saki training, and sees Saks as his disciple.
Oh and Splinter's origin was given to you in the movie. He's just a lab rat. A lab rat that decides to pick up a book and train his "kids" in ninjitsu because he feels it's a good parenting guide.

Do we even know that Saki is Shredder? Once again, Shredder is only an asian man in the film because of the backlash that they white-washed him and were going to make Sachs Shredder. I think you're grasping at straws here.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:36 AM   #45
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Just becoming popular? I'm pretty sure cartoon movies have always been popular. Look at Toy Story or the Lion King. I don't really see what you're getting at there.

Sure, box office analysts had this film pegged to come in a little lower and while that's all fine and dandy...people really need to see how it plays out and does into the next weekend. For me personally, any success of this movie is a true loss because I'm really not digging the direction and the universe set up for me in this first film.

I don't think the studio will take it's time and they'll try to rush their version of TMNT 2 by 2016 to strike while the iron is hot again. It'll be basically what happened with Amazing Spider-Man 2.
If my calculations are correct, I'm predicting the second weekend to be roughly 31 million. It's a 50% drop for the movie coming off a predicted 60 million OW. And this is figuring if the GA likes it. If not, expect 60% to 70% drop, which would be about 24- 18 million next weekend.

So, those are the numbers as I see it. Coming off a 60 million OW, if the audience digged it, 30 million, if the audience is split, 26, if the audience was disappointed, 24, if the audience didn't care for it, 18 million or less, for it's second weekend.

The last TMNT movie dropped 60% from OW to second weekend. In comparison to the movie that was actually loved by the GA, the first movie dropped only 25%. But this was when the TMNT was red hot, you had to wait a year for the VHS to be released and there was no threat on online piracy, which in turn is what is killing the movies drop percentages in this day and age.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:41 AM   #46
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If my calculations are correct, I'm predicting the second weekend to be roughly 31 million. It's a 50% drop for the movie coming off a predicted 60 million OW. And this is figuring if the GA likes it. If not, expect 60% to 70% drop, which would be about 24- 18 million next weekend.

So, those are the numbers as I see it. Coming off a 60 million OW, if the audience digged it, 30 million, if the audience is split, 26, if the audience was disappointed, 24, if the audience didn't care for it, 18 million or less, for it's second weekend.

The last TMNT movie dropped 60% from OW to second weekend. In comparison to the movie that was actually loved by the GA, the first movie dropped only 25%. But this was when the TMNT was red hot, you had to wait a year for the VHS to be released and there was no threat on online piracy, which in turn is what is killing the movies drop percentages in this day and age.
Exactly. Most popular franchises are always red hot when during a movie's opening weekend. Imagine how Guardians of the Galaxy fans are feeling....but I too expect a sharp decline in the next weekend because for the majority of the audience, it's heavily split.
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I doubt TMNT will be at 1 for a 2nd week, I assume The Expendables 3 will take no 1 next week.

But there is a slim chance that TMNT could stay at no 1 for a 2nd week as The Expendables 3 was leaked online a few weeks ago and probably won't do that well at the box office.
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I'm absolutely shocked to see this doing so well. I guess August is the month of over-performing movies. As far as next week is concerned, I honestly think Let's Be Cops will take the #1 spot.

I'm curious what the legs will be like for this. The Fault in Our Stars had an excellent opening but had a massive drop the second weekend because everyone saw it when it came out and didn't feel like repeat viewings.
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I'm absolutely shocked to see this doing so well. I guess August is the month of over-performing movies. As far as next week is concerned, I honestly think Let's Be Cops will take the #1 spot.

I'm curious what the legs will be like for this. The Fault in Our Stars had an excellent opening but had a massive drop the second weekend because everyone saw it when it came out and didn't feel like repeat viewings.
Its the Turtles man, a lot of people who grew up in the 80s, Have very strong connections with TMNT growing up, Which is why its doing so well.
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Just becoming popular? I'm pretty sure cartoon movies have always been popular. Look at Toy Story or the Lion King. I don't really see what you're getting at there.

Sure, box office analysts had this film pegged to come in a little lower and while that's all fine and dandy...people really need to see how it plays out and does into the next weekend. For me personally, any success of this movie is a true loss because I'm really not digging the direction and the universe set up for me in this first film.

I don't think the studio will take it's time and they'll try to rush their version of TMNT 2 by 2016 to strike while the iron is hot again. It'll be basically what happened with Amazing Spider-Man 2.
I haven't seen Spider-Man 2 so I can't comment.

However, a lot of people liked (or loved) the movie. I quite enjoyed it, so did everyone I was with. It was fast paced, simple, and fun. Exactly what I wanted.

Any success is a loss? Not true. If it wasn't a success, you'd probably have to wait another 20 years for a hopeful reboot. Even if it's a success, they could change it up a little to better please the critics or they could end up rebooting after a couple a movies.

A failure means bye bye Turtles from the big screen for a long, long time.

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Old 08-09-2014, 12:59 PM   #51
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I haven't seen Spider-Man 2 so I can't comment.

However, a lot of people liked (or loved) the movies. I quite enjoyed it, so did everyone I was with. It was fast paced, simple, and fun. Exactly what I wanted.

Any success is a loss? Not true. If it wasn't a success, you'd probably have to wait another 20 years for a hopeful reboot. Even if it's a success, they could change it up a little to better please the critics or they could end up rebooting after a couple a movies.

A failure means bye bye Turtles from the big screen for a long, long time.
I don't know man, judging by the people coming in the review thread today and by everyone's opinions from the theater on Thursday night....this movie isn't going over very well.

Where do you get 20 years for a reboot? Please, look at the Hulk movies and Spider-Man films...those at least got a reboot within their franchise within 5 years a part from one another. Obviously this big opening weekend means people WANT TMNT films, but the studio just needs to realize they need to make good movies as well. A failure does not mean "buh bye" Turtles....it just means someone needs to produce a better product.
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I don't know man, judging by the people coming in the review thread today and by everyone's opinions from the theater on Thursday night....this movie isn't going over very well.

Where do you get 20 years for a reboot? Please, look at the Hulk movies and Spider-Man films...those at least got a reboot within their franchise within 5 years a part from one another. Obviously this big opening weekend means people WANT TMNT films, but the studio just needs to realize they need to make good movies as well. A failure does not mean "buh bye" Turtles....it just means someone needs to produce a better product.
Are you kidding?

The Hulk made back it's budget, but didn't make the studio a lot of money overall from the project. They even put out a better product a few later and it was even less successful (still made the company money in the end, but not much). Neither Hulk film was a financial success in anyway, but they weren't complete flops.

Spider-Man? Of course they'd reboot it.. it did absolutely fantastic at the box office. I eluded to that by saying if it does well, but not as well as they think, they could reboot it. If it's a straight up failure? It's not getting a reboot for a long time.

I got 20 years from 1993 till 2014. It was a guesstimate, not an exact number, obviously. They tried to reboot Turtles once with a cheap film, and it didn't work. If this failed, you honestly see it getting a reboot in 5 years? Not a chance in hell. No one is going to throw their money into the Turtles again for a long time if this movie had of bombed.

This move becoming a moderate success would be the best thing to happen for the franchise. It forces them to up the ante a little, but we'll get a sequel.
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Are you kidding?

The Hulk made back it's budget, but didn't make the studio a lot of money overall from the project. They even put out a better product a few later and it was even less successful (still made the company money in the end, but not much). Neither Hulk film was a financial success in anyway, but they weren't complete flops.

Spider-Man? Of course they'd reboot it.. it did absolutely fantastic at the box office. I eluded to that by saying if it does well, but not as well as they think, they could reboot it. If it's a straight up failure? It's not getting a reboot for a long time.

I got 20 years from 1993 till 2014. It was a guesstimate, not an exact number, obviously. They tried to reboot Turtles once with a cheap film, and it didn't work. If this failed, you honestly see it getting a reboot in 5 years? Not a chance in hell. No one is going to throw their money into the Turtles again for a long time if this movie had of bombed.

This move becoming a moderate success would be the best thing to happen for the franchise. It forces them to up the ante a little, but we'll get a sequel.
HA! Here we go...

You're missing the points in what I was trying to get at clearly, it's a totally different world we live in now where comic book and cartoon pop culture franchises are big draws for Hollywood to make so they want to try and get these movies back out quickly because they know they have great appeal. Yes, Hulk made almost the same amount of money back as it did in and Spider-Man was such a huge hit that Sony wanted to keep the rights and revamp it again.

Clearly there's an interest in TMNT and there always has been, the new cartoon proves there's even MORE interest. Things are well in the TMNT universe but as a fan of the franchise, I can't see THIS movie becoming overly successful being anything other than a disappointment due to the material I was presented.
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Look at that, doubled Guardian's Friday earnings plus some. Big ol' Turtley foot right to the hindquarters.
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Look at that, doubled Guardian's Friday earnings plus some. Big ol' Turtley foot right to the hindquarters.
that was one day....how about we wait for the weekend is over before we start throwing numbers out
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Guys keep your arguements out of this thread please, I don't want this thread locked. Make your own thread for your arguements just don't use this one.

I made this thread just for daily Box office numbers for domestic and Global results.
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Look at that, doubled Guardian's Friday earnings plus some. Big ol' Turtley foot right to the hindquarters.
Comparing the box office of a film init's 1st day of release to a film in its 8th day of release. How about you compare their opening Fridays?
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HA! Here we go...

You're missing the points in what I was trying to get at clearly, it's a totally different world we live in now where comic book and cartoon pop culture franchises are big draws for Hollywood to make so they want to try and get these movies back out quickly because they know they have great appeal. Yes, Hulk made almost the same amount of money back as it did in and Spider-Man was such a huge hit that Sony wanted to keep the rights and revamp it again.

Clearly there's an interest in TMNT and there always has been, the new cartoon proves there's even MORE interest. Things are well in the TMNT universe but as a fan of the franchise, I can't see THIS movie becoming overly successful being anything other than a disappointment due to the material I was presented.
What you're saying makes absolutely no sense, so laugh at me all you want.

A studio is not going to throw money at another Turtles film if it was a failure. The only reason Hulk got another movie is because they realized they made a product that wasn't loved by the masses and they made their money back so taking another shot wasn't out of the question. When the next film did even worse, it's took them almost 6-years to even consider a new Hulk film and it's only close because of the Avengers scene. If Hulk doesn't come out as big of star this time, I wouldn't expect to see a Hulk solo movie anytime soon.

The Spider-Man reboot that you brought up made no sense. It was rebooted because they were done with their story and it made an insane amount of money.

Studio's don't want to lose money. That's not their goal. After a 21-year absence from the big screen, not including an underwhelming animated movie that didn't light up the box-office, a failure would have probably spelled the end of TMNT on the big screen for a long-time.
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What you're saying makes absolutely no sense, so laugh at me all you want.

A studio is not going to throw money at another Turtles film if it was a failure. The only reason Hulk got another movie is because they realized they made a product that wasn't loved by the masses and they made their money back so taking another shot wasn't out of the question. When the next film did even worse, it's took them almost 6-years to even consider a new Hulk film and it's only close because of the Avengers scene. If Hulk doesn't come out as big of star this time, I wouldn't expect to see a Hulk solo movie anytime soon.

The Spider-Man reboot that you brought up made no sense. It was rebooted because they were done with their story and it made an insane amount of money.

Studio's don't want to lose money. That's not their goal. After a 21-year absence from the big screen, not including an underwhelming animated movie that didn't light up the box-office, a failure would have probably spelled the end of TMNT on the big screen for a long-time.
I completely disagree with that last statement and you're incredibly wrong about Spider-Man thinking the story was done (considering they wanted to do another trilogy in that series) but for the sake of not getting this thread locked, let's just knock it off.

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Comparing the box office of a film init's 1st day of release to a film in its 8th day of release. How about you compare their opening Fridays?
Exactly. If we're judging things by that, GOTG completely slammed TMNT.
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I completely disagree with that last statement and you're incredibly wrong about Spider-Man thinking the story was done (considering they wanted to do another trilogy in that series) but for the sake of not getting this thread locked, let's just knock it off.
Why would it get locked, we're on the topic of the box-office.

Yes, they wanted to continue the Spider-Man series but Raimi coudln't get a script to work to his liking and Tobey McGuire wasn't interested in going on. But that's not the point, the point is it made money, so a reboot or continuation was never not going to happen. It made money.

TMNT being a success, like it has been so far, is good for the franchise even if you don't like the direction. If it was a failure, we wouldn't see it come back. If it wasn't, no one would invest into making a new one considering the failure (plus it's box office running record).

I don't get how that's hard to understand. Then again, you said you completely disagreed with my last statement, so I guess you believe Studio's are in this business to lose money. Makes sense considering your rebuttals. Debate is now over.
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