Christy Mack

[pennydreadful]

So for those of you who haven't been following the story, Christy Mack is an alt model/porn star who was beaten to a pulp by her boyfriend - today, she's released photos of her injuries, as well as a statement.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/8/11...ic-assault-mma

The (now ex) boyfriend (an MMA fighter called War Machine) has meanwhile engaged in a barf-inducing round of victim-blaming, saying she was cheating on him.

People, I don't care if you walk in and you find your partner pulling a train in the middle of the living room - it is NEVER ok to hit your partner.

There is absolutely no excuse for domestic violence, ever. I'm tired of seeing this sort of thing - it's absolutely disgraceful and unacceptable.

Christy, I hope that you make a complete recovery and that justice is served.

[BubblyShell22]

Wow. That's horrible, but at least she survived it. Domestic abuse is not okay no matter what, and the sad thing is that most women continue to stay with the man even after they've been abused. Sad but true. I hope that Christy finds the courage to leave him and never go back to him.

[ObiWanFan4life]

My word, that's terrible. Between this and Robin Williams' passing, I truly hate the world sometimes.

[Raphael4]

From reading his twitter and her statement it seems a mess. Her statement makes no sense though why she let her ex have entry into her home? Why did she idly watch her friend get beaten? Why did she undress for a shower and go for said shower and not escape? She then states from the beating she can't walk then goes on to say she ran and jumped over fences and knocked on peoples doors before someone opening to her. I don't know I don't really believe her story.

[turtlefanforever]

we still do NOT know the full story. It is horrible but judgment should be reserved until the truth comes out.

[plastroncafe]

Let the victim blaming begin!

I repeat: no one deserves to be hit. Ever.

[Blossombrooks]

That poor woman, she must be in so much pain. Adrenaline is a funny thing, I'm not surprised she was able to run.
Believe me, no one has the right to judge her and I just hope she recovers both mentally and physically.
There are no excuses for abuse. That man needs to accept what he's done is unforgivable.

[Prowler]

Her boyfriend is an MMA fighter so he's probably fairly strong and capable of beating up many guys, let alone your average woman with no training. Pretty disgusting and cowardly to use your strength to beat up someone weaker than you, especially your partner.

[plastroncafe]

Time to get that man tested for steroids.

[Candy Kappa]

Horrible and disgusting. I hope Christy have healthy recovery, and the dude gets severely punished.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Discogod

Yeah, I wouldn't say never. I'm not a violent person, especially towards women, but the one time I did hit a woman she more than deserved it (and she's lucky she just got a light slap instead of a regular punch).

Dude - no. Just no. Unless she was running at you with a knife, that's completely unacceptable.

Originally Posted by Raphael4

From reading his twitter and her statement it seems a mess. Her statement makes no sense though why she let her ex have entry into her home? Why did she idly watch her friend get beaten? Why did she undress for a shower and go for said shower and not escape? She then states from the beating she can't walk then goes on to say she ran and jumped over fences and knocked on peoples doors before someone opening to her. I don't know I don't really believe her story.

If you've seen picture of the guy, you'd be aware that he's built like the proverbial sh*thouse - if a guy like that is standing over the top of you and you're afraid, of course you're going to shower. As far as having access to her home - he could have still had a key, he could have broken in... we don't know. I put her escape down to adrenaline.

Either way, the photos of her injuries clearly show that she was violently assaulted. Whatever went down, beating a person like that is not ok.

Seriously, if anybody here thinks that kind of behavior is appropriate - do me a favor, don't ever talk to me again. I'll tell you right now, domestic abuse is reprehensible, cowardly and absolutely vile. If you can't keep your hands to yourself, if you're that incapable of controlling yourself, you ought to be locked up and kept far away from decent people. This is something we're taught in kindergarten - you keep your hands to yourself, you don't hit the other kids. It's a concept so simple that even a freaking five year old can grasp it.

The only time it is EVER ok to raise your hand to another person is to defend your physical safety, or that of someone else. And even then, you use only the minimum force that is required to stop the threat, no more.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Wow. That's horrible, but at least she survived it. Domestic abuse is not okay no matter what, and the sad thing is that most women continue to stay with the man even after they've been abused. Sad but true. I hope that Christy finds the courage to leave him and never go back to him.

I think that happens because the men often threatens them with violence or death should they leave, so the women feel like they are forced to stay. Also the woman tends to be financially depend on the man, either having given up her job to be some sort of homemaker (either by her desire or his) or she is in dire financial straits (she's super poor and would be homeless without him) and chooses to stay for that reason.

There is also the last reason, they had children with the man, and think staying would be better (for the children) then breaking up and leaving the kids without a dad.

[Slade]

Penny, are you talking just domestic violence or actually getting into a fight?

[Davin]

As someone who follows and is involved in MMA, I've known this guy is a major scumbag for years now. Multiple assault charges, multiple jail stints, and a felon. All in the last few years. Why anyone would get into a relationship with someone like that is beyond me, and yes this behavior started before they got together. Glad she survived, it's not her fault it happened, but damn those are some warning signs.

Oh, and they have tattoos of each other's names.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/8/11...ic-assault-mma

Now one of the clickable articles is saying that Dog the Bounty Hunter will be going after him if he doesn't turn himself in. Hopefully Dog knows how to deal with that type, as he'll have his hands full.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/8/12...e-christy-mack

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

Penny, are you talking just domestic violence or actually getting into a fight?

For the purpose of this conversation, consider all my comments to be in the context of condemning domestic violence situations.

Though I don't like real-life violence in general, I understand that sometimes it's not practical/some scumbags need an asskicking... and I certainly wouldn't shed any tears if War Machine happened to get a little banged up while being brought in by Dog or the cops. Or an enterprising gang of bikers with brass knuckles. Hypocritical or just a grey area - I don't know.

I am an angry person today.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

I think that happens because the men often threatens them with violence or death should they leave, so the women feel like they are forced to stay. Also the woman tends to be financially depend on the man, either having given up her job to be some sort of homemaker (either by her desire or his) or she is in dire financial straits (she's super poor and would be homeless without him) and chooses to stay for that reason.

There is also the last reason, they had children with the man, and think staying would be better (for the children) then breaking up and leaving the kids without a dad.

You're absolutely right. Relationships with domestic abuse often have other types of abuse being present as well, and the victim is often scared of leaving the relationship not only because threats are present, but because, well... the victim once loved that person and it's hard to leave a situation like that, because they think there's still some good in that person.

And the children situation happens way too often. I grew up with a friend who had exactly that problem -- mom didn't divorce or leave dad because she didn't want her kids to live without. But the kids knew that was the case and always told me they WISHED she'd divorce.

[Slade]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

For the purpose of this conversation, consider all my comments to be in the context of condemning domestic violence situations.

Though I don't like real-life violence in general, I understand that sometimes it's not practical/some scumbags need an asskicking... and I certainly wouldn't shed any tears if War Machine happened to get a little banged up while being brought in by Dog or the cops. Or an enterprising gang of bikers with brass knuckles. Hypocritical or just a grey area - I don't know.

I am an angry person today.

Okay I gotcha. I wouldn't say hypocritical though. Some people need to get knocked the f**k out.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Discogod

No knife, just fists. She'd hit me several times, trying to provoke a reaction. Last punch broke my nose. Had to do something.

Domestic violence isn't just a male-on-female thing. It works both ways, only most guys it happens to are too embarrassed/humiliated to say or do anything.

Which is exactly why I've tried to use gender-neutral language in this discussion. I know perfectly well that it happens to men, and I don't condone women committing violence against their partners any more than I condone it being committed by men. And that goes for straight relationships as well as gay/lesbian relationships.

I know I'm firing up and being more feisty than usual, but look - my grandmother was beaten by her husband for years. She ended up leaving after he put her in hospital while she was pregnant. When she left him, she had four kids, no car, no job and one can of tomato soup in the cupboard. And there was no welfare in those days. There was violence in some of the arguments between my mother and my father (which I don't like talking about).

Domestic violence is an ugly, horrible thing, and it makes me sick that people still excuse it. It's grotesque.

[BubblyShell22]

I saw on TMZ Live that they did a radio interview and War Machine made a joke about killing her. She responded with, "I'd probably deserve it." And the tattoo you guys are talking about says "Property of" and that's an issue right there.