RIP Robin Williams - Page 6

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 08-13-2014, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

Wow you guys really jumped down his throat about the meds, family/friends and psychiatrist thing.

No one is saying you get instantly cured but those ARE things you SHOULD do to get help. Just like with any illness. You don't let it go or ignore it.

Turning to family, friends or mental help is not worth the effort is a terrible thing to imply. Which is what you guys sound like.

I agree with this. I really liked Robin Williams and he was tied to more than one April O'Neil actress, coincidentally (I loved his new show, "The Crazy Ones," with Sarah Michelle Gellar). But I don't feel sorry for anyone who does something like this, what with all of the resources out there-- I understand that some of you can't afford to go to doctors and get treatment but he could have gotten the best. It is still very sad, but there's no excuse for simply bailing on life when things get tough, in my opinion. That's all.

*Wildcat* · 08-13-2014, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Not everybody is able to admit that they need help in the first place. The entire point is that when you have a mental illness, the way you are thinking at that time seems perfectly normal. You don't always realize that you're sick, that your thinking is illogical or irrational or unhealthy. You think that the way you're feeling makes perfect sense. It creeps up on you a little bit at a time. It's hard to get treated for a problem when you don't realize that you have it.

Ya I can understand that. Its the way some people are talking here...seeking help is kinda pointless because It probably won't do much good in the long run.

If someone told you that they didn't wanna live anymore would you?...

try to get them some help before something bad happens

or would you say,

well really people don't understand these things and not much works soooo...but good luck with that.
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I'd hope it was the first one.

*pennydreadful* · 08-13-2014, 01:47 AM

Thankyou arkangel.

*Netkeeper* · 08-13-2014, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

Ya I can understand that. Its the way some people are talking here...seeking help is kinda pointless because It probably won't do much good in the long run.

If someone told you that they didn't wanna live anymore would you?...

try to get them some help before something bad happens

or would you say,

well really people don't understand these things and not much works soooo...but good luck with that.
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I'd hope it was the first one.

Nobody is saying we'd go with the second option, dude. I think you're terribly misunderstanding what's being said here.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-13-2014, 08:32 AM

As others have said, medicine isn't always the best cure, and some people who suffer from depression don't feel like talking to someone. They just want to be left alone and not be bothered. If that's the case, then nothing anyone says will help. That's just the way it is. It's nobody's fault if they have depression, and it can be caused by a lot of different things.

*Metalwolf* · 08-13-2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ***Doo Doo Acureds***

But I don't feel sorry for anyone who does something like this, what with all of the resources out there-- I understand that some of you can't afford to go to doctors and get treatment but he could have gotten the best. It is still very sad, but there's no excuse for simply bailing on life when things get tough, in my opinion. That's all.

But ultimately, even with all of the resources at his disposal, most of it still comes down to taking the same meds that everybody else gets prescribed, going to therapy, and hoping that whatever the doctor gives you ends up kicking in soon. There is no 'magic pill' medicine that the rich can get that a poor person wouldn't also have gotten prescribed.

And he didn't 'bail on life,' it just got so bad that he was unable to take it anymore, which is why they Baker Act such people. They are out of their mind at that point, which is the state Mr. Williams was getting to.

DarkLightDragon · 08-13-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

As others have said, medicine isn't always the best cure, and some people who suffer from depression don't feel like talking to someone. They just want to be left alone and not be bothered. If that's the case, then nothing anyone says will help. That's just the way it is. It's nobody's fault if they have depression, and it can be caused by a lot of different things.

Agreed. While I may not have gone through depression or personally knew someone who did, I can see it's something that's more than just "being sad" and would never think it's as simple as solving than getting. Another reason why it's probably not easy to admit is because one doesn't want others to worry about you. Or people who are depressed are really good at hiding it so they'd never assume something's wrong. You probably just think bottling it all up in hope it'll eventually go away. But when it doesn't, then it becomes hard to think clearly, the pain becomes too unbearable, and you just want it to end as quickly as possible.

Again, I have no experience/prior knowledge of depression nor what really goes on in a suicidal person's mind. Nor do I ever really want to. This is all speculation on my part and could very well be proven wrong, so forgive me if I come off a bit of a 'know-it-all.'

*BubblyShell22* · 08-13-2014, 06:36 PM

No, what you said makes total sense. My cousin's best friend committed suicide, and she showed no outward signs of being depressed at all. My cousin was there for her and had talked to her before she killed herself, and she seemed fine. So sometimes it's not easy to know if someone is depressed or not. My aunt suffers from it, and I just hope that she never gets so bad that she takes her own life.

*Guitar_Raph* · 08-14-2014, 12:08 PM

A Robin Williams moment.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-14-2014, 02:56 PM

Just found out Robin had the beginning stages of Parkinson's disease. Poor guy!

*plastroncafe* · 08-14-2014, 03:05 PM

Gosh, I wonder if it's okay to feel sorry for him now, she says sarcastically.

*Jephael* · 08-14-2014, 06:38 PM

Being somewhat of a clinically depressed individual myself, I know how it feels to contemplate taking the easy way out. There've been times I thought about jumping off a tall building or drowning myself in a river, but then I started to think of all of my loved ones who I would never have the chance to talk with ever again.

Last year while visiting my cousin and his fiancé in San Francisco, I got to see Robin Williams' house. I knew my chances of meeting him were slim, but part of me hoped I'd get the opportunity to shake hands with him and thank him for all the wonderful memories. After hearing the sad news about his passing, I wish even more that it had happened.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-15-2014, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Gosh, I wonder if it's okay to feel sorry for him now, she says sarcastically.

Are you directing this at me? Because if you are, I never said I didn't feel sorry for him. I'm sad for the choice he made and I feel sorry for his family, but no one really knows what goes through someone's mind when they're depressed and feeling low. He probably got this diagnosis and just didn't want to have to go through all of that because he wouldn't be able to work or do anything eventually. So he felt he didn't want to live that way and just killed himself.

But if you aren't directing this at me, then fine. It's hard to tell what you mean here.

Darth Knuckles · 08-16-2014, 12:03 AM

I couldn't believe this when I heard it. I was watching tv and a special report popped up on the screen. He made me laugh a whole lot growing up. Yet for how funny he was he always had a very emotional moment in every movie he was in or character he played. Mrs. Doubtfire was a great movie and Aladdin is my third favorite Animated movie of all time. For me character-wise I'll remember him the most for Mrs. Doubtfire and Genie. I will miss him.

*turtlefanforever* · 08-16-2014, 01:45 PM

Just a head up Tomorrow night at 9pm TVland is playing a tribute to Robin Williams

**Jester** · 08-16-2014, 05:30 PM

"I got this movie while I was still shooting Cadillac Man and had to fly off to North Carolina on the weekends. Everyone wondered what kind of strange movie I was off doing. Only Robin had heard of the Ninja Turtles. He had collected all of the comic books and couldn`t wait to see the movie. He brought his kids to the premiere and surprised me."

-Judith Hoag

Dirty Blond · 08-17-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

"I got this movie while I was still shooting Cadillac Man and had to fly off to North Carolina on the weekends. Everyone wondered what kind of strange movie I was off doing. Only Robin had heard of the Ninja Turtles. He had collected all of the comic books and couldn`t wait to see the movie. He brought his kids to the premiere and surprised me."

-Judith Hoag

That's great to hear he was such a fan, and from the start as well.

InB4 'The new movie made him do it!'

*Netkeeper* · 08-17-2014, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Blond

InB4 'The new movie made him do it!'

That's a pretty awful thing to say.

*turtlefanforever* · 08-17-2014, 03:28 PM

Just another heads up 9pm tonight on TVland they will be playing a special tribute to him. He was/is a wonderful man and will be missed.

*Storm Eagle* · 08-17-2014, 11:20 PM

The Disney Channel, Disney XD, and Disney Junior aired Aladdin this weekend, commerical-free, in memory of Robin Williams. After that was a message that said "In Memory of Robin Williams, who made us laugh".

One of my friends thinks it's cruel of Disney to have shown Aladdin on their networks so early, especially considering that some fans wrote "Genie, you're free," in their goodbyes to him. I don't know though. I thought it was kind of nice.

08-13-2014, 01:47 AM	#103
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08-13-2014, 08:32 AM	#105
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	As others have said, medicine isn't always the best cure, and some people who suffer from depression don't feel like talking to someone. They just want to be left alone and not be bothered. If that's the case, then nothing anyone says will help. That's just the way it is. It's nobody's fault if they have depression, and it can be caused by a lot of different things. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-13-2014, 06:36 PM	#108
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	No, what you said makes total sense. My cousin's best friend committed suicide, and she showed no outward signs of being depressed at all. My cousin was there for her and had talked to her before she killed herself, and she seemed fine. So sometimes it's not easy to know if someone is depressed or not. My aunt suffers from it, and I just hope that she never gets so bad that she takes her own life. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-14-2014, 12:08 PM	#109
Guitar_Raph Superhero musician Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,191	A Robin Williams moment. __________________ Mikey drums with nunchucks!

08-14-2014, 02:56 PM	#110
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Just found out Robin had the beginning stages of Parkinson's disease. Poor guy! __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-14-2014, 06:38 PM	#112
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Being somewhat of a clinically depressed individual myself, I know how it feels to contemplate taking the easy way out. There've been times I thought about jumping off a tall building or drowning myself in a river, but then I started to think of all of my loved ones who I would never have the chance to talk with ever again. Last year while visiting my cousin and his fiancé in San Francisco, I got to see Robin Williams' house. I knew my chances of meeting him were slim, but part of me hoped I'd get the opportunity to shake hands with him and thank him for all the wonderful memories. After hearing the sad news about his passing, I wish even more that it had happened. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

08-16-2014, 12:03 AM	#114
Darth Knuckles Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mutani-Isle Posts: 703	I couldn't believe this when I heard it. I was watching tv and a special report popped up on the screen. He made me laugh a whole lot growing up. Yet for how funny he was he always had a very emotional moment in every movie he was in or character he played. Mrs. Doubtfire was a great movie and Aladdin is my third favorite Animated movie of all time. For me character-wise I'll remember him the most for Mrs. Doubtfire and Genie. I will miss him. __________________ "Shredder, what have you done!?!" - Tiger Claw (Annihilation: Earth!)

08-16-2014, 01:45 PM	#115
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	hey Just a head up Tomorrow night at 9pm TVland is playing a tribute to Robin Williams

08-16-2014, 05:30 PM	#116
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	"I got this movie while I was still shooting Cadillac Man and had to fly off to North Carolina on the weekends. Everyone wondered what kind of strange movie I was off doing. Only Robin had heard of the Ninja Turtles. He had collected all of the comic books and couldn`t wait to see the movie. He brought his kids to the premiere and surprised me." -Judith Hoag __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-17-2014, 03:28 PM	#119
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	hey Just another heads up 9pm tonight on TVland they will be playing a special tribute to him. He was/is a wonderful man and will be missed.

08-17-2014, 11:20 PM	#120
Storm Eagle Saved by Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,395	The Disney Channel, Disney XD, and Disney Junior aired Aladdin this weekend, commerical-free, in memory of Robin Williams. After that was a message that said "In Memory of Robin Williams, who made us laugh". One of my friends thinks it's cruel of Disney to have shown Aladdin on their networks so early, especially considering that some fans wrote "Genie, you're free," in their goodbyes to him. I don't know though. I thought it was kind of nice.