TMNT #37 Preview/Discussion - Page 3

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-13-2014, 07:33 PM

Initial thought:
Shredder's convincing switch was a nice twist.

I was expecting an alliance not Shredder realizing this is a three way war between Krang, the turtles, and himself.

Bludgeon does this mean no Armaggon?

Otherwise, great issue that did not require the turtles in their own issue. Such a great supporting cast that can carry weight and has such potential only so many realize. Great call, Mr. Waltz!

Btw, who was that who gave this place a shout out?

Jeff · 08-13-2014, 07:43 PM

Why doesn't the title of the thread have "Spoilers" in it so I can read this without having to click dozens of times?

Anyway...I think this is the first issue of IDW's series (proper, or ancillary) that doesn't feature even on one panel with the TMNT in it, and the issue is so good, you don't even really notice til the end.

Also...BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGEON!!!!!

*Cipher* · 08-13-2014, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

Also...BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGEON!!!!!

Master of Metallikato!

Or ... no, right?

Looking forward to reading this.

Joey Kamikaze · 08-13-2014, 08:26 PM

I kinda wish they'd just called him Armaggon and let him grow into the name as the story went on. Maybe later on Future!Bludgeon will become a supervillain in his own right and come back in time calling himself Armaggon or something.

Otherwise it feels like a missed opportunity and a somewhat goofy name.

Whatever though. It's impressive to see a mainline TMNT book not even feature the title characters and still come out so great. It didn't go the way I expected, but this is probably even better. I love how we're finally getting to the point where things are unpredictable again. I loved City Fall and Northhampton but you could see the specific story beats coming months ahead.

Mutant Ninja Anole · 08-13-2014, 08:47 PM

Defending the name: two things: Bludgeon is a Hammerhead, Armaggon was modeled after a great white (I think). Second, Armaggon is a mouthful to say and a bit of an odd name to come up with a reason for (it was originally a corruption of Armageddon) while Bludgeon makes more immediate sense (Bludgeon with a hammer, get it?) and rolls off the tongue easier than a three syllable name.

As Tom said, the characters right now doesn't really have any similarities besides being 'a' shark of some kind.

That bit out of the way, rereading this, it strikes me how Shredder's men really do defend him to the death. His duplicate of course but the other guard threw himself right into the line of fire to allow him escape. I guess the helicopter pilot died trying to save him, but that wasn't the plan.

*Ninjinister* · 08-13-2014, 09:14 PM

So Shark Week has infected the book, eh?

corvus · 08-13-2014, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazi

That's one thing I don't really understand, and can be a potential plot hole...
Alopex was a fox, and Koya was Shedder's pet bird originally, so they were all animals. Yet they're not as antisocial as Old Hob or as dumb as Slash was before they fixed him. Maybe the foot has the serum? Did they took it at the lab attack in #1? I can't recall how it happened.

Krang can't make mutants, shredder can. This has been established for awhile. The foot has the psychotropic compound and mutagen they stole the research from Stockgen in issue #1 and they probably ran out of ooze so Karai lifted some off of burnow island.

Jeff · 08-13-2014, 11:00 PM

We talked about this issue on the new episode of The TMNT Podcast.

*shredder orokusaki* · 08-14-2014, 04:32 AM

That was the besti issue ever! Finaly another issue that focues o nme!! I almost killed krang!! The best issue of the series so far!!

*ProphetofGanja* · 08-14-2014, 11:40 AM

this issue was phenomenal. I know everyone's already said it, but I can really appreciate the fact that the issue works so well without any appearance of the titular characters.

A shark mutant was the last thing I would've guessed was coming! Also I totally thought that was really Shredder who got sucker-punched, I should have known better. IDW has done a great job of making Shredder a very nuanced character; he's got his flaws but they're not significant enough for one to disregard him as being a credible threat. he isn't so power hungry and focused on taking over the world that he's setting up his own downfall (although it got kinda close to looking like that might be the case at a couple points during the series).

I'm already curious as to what IDW's next mini-series will be about. Like somebody mentioned in this issue's Ninja Notes, I hope Angel/Nobody gets a micro issue at some point. And Woody too!

One other thing: does this issue/standalone story have a freaking name!?!?

*Redeemer* · 08-14-2014, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutant Ninja Anole

Defending the name: two things: Bludgeon is a Hammerhead, Armaggon was modeled after a great white (I think). Second, Armaggon is a mouthful to say and a bit of an odd name to come up for a reason for (it was originally a corruption of Armageddon) while Bludgeon makes more immediate sense (Bludgeon with a hammer, get it?) and rolls off the tongue easier than a three syllable name.

As Tom said, the characters right now doesn't really have any similarities besides being 'a' shark of some kind.

That bit out of the way, rereading this, it strikes me how Shredder's men really do defend him to the death. His duplicate of course but the other guard threw himself right into the line of fire to allow him escape. I guess the helicopter pilot died trying to save him, but that wasn't the plan.

I am sorry but the name is so cliché

Tazi · 08-14-2014, 12:04 PM

I have to admit, when I first saw Bludgeon this is what came to my mind:

Spoiler:

sorry

~~ChosenOne~~ · 08-14-2014, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazi

I have to admit, when I first saw Bludgeon this is what came to my mind:

Spoiler:

sorry

Wow... Panel number 3 there just made Granitor shooting Bludgeon in the mouth really awkward...

~~ChosenOne~~ · 08-14-2014, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja

I'm already curious as to what IDW's next mini-series will be about. Like somebody mentioned in this issue's Ninja Notes, I hope Angel/Nobody gets a micro issue at some point. And Woody too!

One other thing: does this issue/standalone story have a freaking name!?!?

They should announce something soon, to fill the gap once Turtles in Time ends.

As for micro issues, there is a growing list of characters overdue for one but I can't help but think there will be a couple of new ones introduced before the big showdown with Shredder and/or Krang, even beyond the new members of Hob's gang we know are coming. It's just a matter of time.

I believe the 37-40 arc is called "Territory".

Tazi · 08-14-2014, 01:39 PM

Campbell art!

http://mooncalfe.deviantart.com/art/...geon-475467841

909 Turtle Fan · 08-14-2014, 02:33 PM

Read it last night and man, those fight scenes got my blood pumping, what an awesome book! I liked how Krang said Shredder's name alot, like he was talking down too him, reminded me of the OT. I don't know much about Armaggon but I do know that a shark mutant is bad ass! This is one of the best issues of the series and the turtle boys weren't even in it! Bring on the next issue

*Ninjinister* · 08-14-2014, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeemer

I am sorry but the name is so cliché

How?

There's no other shark or hammer-related characters with that name, is there?

Hell I don't know of any characters period.

*Raven* · 08-14-2014, 08:48 PM

You guys have to stop doing this, I can't keep thinking of different ways to describe how great this book is. Just when I think I'm going to run into a throw away issue I'm proven wrong.

The writing has been top notch (Why is this book not on the top 10 of best selling monthlies?). Also Smiths art was great and kept the tone and feel of the book. It didn't feel to jarring to have a different artist step in.

*Redeemer* · 08-14-2014, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

How?

There's no other shark or hammer-related characters with that name, is there?

Hell I don't know of any characters period.

Cliche is the wrong word..

I had a brain fart last night. its just a lack of imagination imo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven

Also Smiths art was great and kept the tone and feel of the book. It didn't feel to jarring to have a different artist step in.

I did not realize there was a different artist on this book. The art reminded me of Duncan's

ctt4lfecw · 08-14-2014, 10:38 PM

Wow.

Spoiler:

Anyway I just want to say thank you to the TMNT staff at IDW. This is what the movie should've been! IDW TMNT rewards it's fans!

08-13-2014, 07:33 PM	#41
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Initial thought: Shredder's convincing switch was a nice twist. I was expecting an alliance not Shredder realizing this is a three way war between Krang, the turtles, and himself. Bludgeon does this mean no Armaggon? Otherwise, great issue that did not require the turtles in their own issue. Such a great supporting cast that can carry weight and has such potential only so many realize. Great call, Mr. Waltz! Btw, who was that who gave this place a shout out? __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon! Last edited by MikeandRaph87; 08-13-2014 at 08:01 PM.

08-13-2014, 08:47 PM	#45
Mutant Ninja Anole Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: USA Posts: 591	Defending the name: two things: Bludgeon is a Hammerhead, Armaggon was modeled after a great white (I think). Second, Armaggon is a mouthful to say and a bit of an odd name to come up with a reason for (it was originally a corruption of Armageddon) while Bludgeon makes more immediate sense (Bludgeon with a hammer, get it?) and rolls off the tongue easier than a three syllable name. As Tom said, the characters right now doesn't really have any similarities besides being 'a' shark of some kind. That bit out of the way, rereading this, it strikes me how Shredder's men really do defend him to the death. His duplicate of course but the other guard threw himself right into the line of fire to allow him escape. I guess the helicopter pilot died trying to save him, but that wasn't the plan. __________________ My stupid Tumblr Last edited by Mutant Ninja Anole; 08-14-2014 at 01:14 PM.

08-13-2014, 09:14 PM	#46
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	So Shark Week has infected the book, eh? __________________

08-14-2014, 04:32 AM	#49
shredder orokusaki Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 1,521	That was the besti issue ever! Finaly another issue that focues o nme!! I almost killed krang!! The best issue of the series so far!! __________________ I AM THE SHREDDER!!!!!

08-14-2014, 11:40 AM	#50
ProphetofGanja Dub Professor Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dub Side of the Moon Posts: 3,497	this issue was phenomenal. I know everyone's already said it, but I can really appreciate the fact that the issue works so well without any appearance of the titular characters. A shark mutant was the last thing I would've guessed was coming! Also I totally thought that was really Shredder who got sucker-punched, I should have known better. IDW has done a great job of making Shredder a very nuanced character; he's got his flaws but they're not significant enough for one to disregard him as being a credible threat. he isn't so power hungry and focused on taking over the world that he's setting up his own downfall (although it got kinda close to looking like that might be the case at a couple points during the series). I'm already curious as to what IDW's next mini-series will be about. Like somebody mentioned in this issue's Ninja Notes, I hope Angel/Nobody gets a micro issue at some point. And Woody too! One other thing: does this issue/standalone story have a freaking name!?!? __________________ "We've been frantically trying to reach you, Dude."

08-13-2014, 07:43 PM	#42
Jeff Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: I heard the sewers in Connecticut are nice. Posts: 579	Why doesn't the title of the thread have "Spoilers" in it so I can read this without having to click dozens of times? Anyway...I think this is the first issue of IDW's series (proper, or ancillary) that doesn't feature even on one panel with the TMNT in it, and the issue is so good, you don't even really notice til the end. Also...BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGEON!!!!!

08-13-2014, 08:26 PM	#44
Joey Kamikaze Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 694	I kinda wish they'd just called him Armaggon and let him grow into the name as the story went on. Maybe later on Future!Bludgeon will become a supervillain in his own right and come back in time calling himself Armaggon or something. Otherwise it feels like a missed opportunity and a somewhat goofy name. Whatever though. It's impressive to see a mainline TMNT book not even feature the title characters and still come out so great. It didn't go the way I expected, but this is probably even better. I love how we're finally getting to the point where things are unpredictable again. I loved City Fall and Northhampton but you could see the specific story beats coming months ahead.

08-13-2014, 11:00 PM	#48
Jeff Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: I heard the sewers in Connecticut are nice. Posts: 579	We talked about this issue on the new episode of The TMNT Podcast.

08-14-2014, 12:04 PM	#52
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	I have to admit, when I first saw Bludgeon this is what came to my mind: Spoiler: sorry __________________

08-14-2014, 01:39 PM	#55
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	Campbell art! http://mooncalfe.deviantart.com/art/...geon-475467841 __________________

08-14-2014, 02:33 PM	#56
909 Turtle Fan Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2008 Location: Eastbound & Down Posts: 477	Read it last night and man, those fight scenes got my blood pumping, what an awesome book! I liked how Krang said Shredder's name alot, like he was talking down too him, reminded me of the OT. I don't know much about Armaggon but I do know that a shark mutant is bad ass! This is one of the best issues of the series and the turtle boys weren't even in it! Bring on the next issue __________________ "Infinite possibilities have been opened to me thanks to this...Technodrome."-Ch'rell aka The Shredder, Turtles Forever "Breathe in the smoke, Oroku Saki, and meditate. Open your mind and all will become clear."-Kitsune, SHotFC #3

08-14-2014, 08:48 PM	#58
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	You guys have to stop doing this, I can't keep thinking of different ways to describe how great this book is. Just when I think I'm going to run into a throw away issue I'm proven wrong. The writing has been top notch (Why is this book not on the top 10 of best selling monthlies?). Also Smiths art was great and kept the tone and feel of the book. It didn't feel to jarring to have a different artist step in. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

08-14-2014, 10:38 PM	#60
ctt4lfecw Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Neutrino Posts: 817	Wow. Spoiler: IDW kicks so much ass. I mean, wow. This issue. I never wanted it to end. Shredder and Krang's meeting gave me chills. So much unexpected stuff, Krang tries to kill Shredder but Shredder was one step ahead. Then they go at it! Always wanted to see that since Im a little kid. I think this is the best showcase of Saki's skills that we have seen in this series so far, he proved that in one on one combat he can take down Krang. And even though Krang has all the guns and stuff, Shredder was still able to out maneuver him. Epic battle on a boat, and when I saw that fin in the water I nearly **** myself. I thought it was going to be Armaggon, but it's a new mutant Bludgeon. Really dig him, he looks a lot like the shark from Worms of Madness. Anyway I just want to say thank you to the TMNT staff at IDW. This is what the movie should've been! IDW TMNT rewards it's fans! Last edited by ctt4lfecw; 08-14-2014 at 11:00 PM.