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Oh, I'unno, I barely pay attention to that stuff, honestly. I know it started out strong but a lot of movies this year started hot but fell off fast, and a lot of stuff didn't meet predictions, so I don't know who could say, really.
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You can tell he was. At first, I thought maybe they did it as a marketing ploy...but that's really risky to do after so much negative feedback from the alien thing.
When you watch it, it's so obvious Oroku Saki was slapped in. 1. No Shredder history 2. Oroku Saki would not need a mech suit, he's already bad ass with minimum armor. Sachs seems like he would need that armor more updated because he probably isn't as good 3. Saki would have heard April running up behind him in the 'Shredder vs Splinter' fight. This mistake seems more like a Sachs thing. 4. With how they show Saki being very close to his Japanese roots, I don't see him needing or wanting a military food clan, again that seems more 'rich business guy'. 5. It was pretty much Sachs' plan, that plan wouldn't be something Saki would care about, nor is it really honorable. Saki doesn't have a lot of honor, but he does have some and he has pride. I don't think that's how he would want to take over a city. 6. Saki has no reason to be in NY or want to take over NY. Sachs does. 7. How in the hell does Saki know Raph's name? He wasn't partaking in the experiments or the project and even if he knew the turtles were named after the artists, how does he know which is which? Sachs would know, because he knew the colors with the name. I mean, you can just tell when you watch it. Saki/shredder felt like a henchmen but he was suppose to be the main villain. Sachs felt like the main villain but was suppose to be a henchmen. William also said he was the Shredder and talked about stunt doubles. I didn't see Sachs doing anything that required stunt doubles. So to answer: Yes.
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Also, they never address him as Oroku Saki. They only call him "shredder" or "master shredder". I don't think it even is Oroku Saki. Just some Japanese dude.
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Its obviously Oroku Saki since they made him Japanese. They didn't mention Yoshi so they had no reason to mention Saki.
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No. Stop allowing crap like this to be made. How far down do the directors have to sink to wake people up that this movie sucked. Do they have to add Venus? Do they have to have Megan make out with mikey? Do they have to have shredder do an evil song and dance number? When will it cross the line that even the most rabid tmnt fan will say 'hell no' and admit they don't like this.
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This was nothing but a money grab for Platinum Dunes. Why would they care about the story? They knew people would see it no matter what.
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Page 185 of "TMNT, The Ultimate Visual History" confirms this theory. There is a page dedicated to the 2014 movie Shredder with pics of Eric Sachs. A couple notable exerpts from this page:
"April suspects there is more to Eric Sachs than meets the eye" (caption of a pic of Eric Sachs talking to April and wearing Shredder armored glove) "Keeping with the classic Turtles vibe, it was announced that the Shredder would be returning, this time played by veteran character actor William Fichtner. The man behind the steel plated mask is Eric Sachs, which many TMNT fans may interpret as a westernized version of the character's original name "Oroku Saki". Fichtner was reluctant about the role at first, but his nephew and a compelling script convinced him to take on the Shredder's mantle." |
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robots in disguise?
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Any one claiming Sachs was never suppose to be shredder is clearly in denial. Most scenes involving him was really pushing the idea that he was going to be shredder.
Honestly, I wish they would have kept Sach as Shredder and revealed he was the American branch of the foot. Then at the end reveal Saki, the true Shredder. That asian dude pretending to be Saki was pointless. His whole plan to bring victory back to the foot was meaningless. How did they loose in the first place? Why did they need to regain it? |
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Of course Sachs was originally meant to be Shredder. Listen to William Fichtner's early interviews. And, remember the last minute reshoots? There's no way the idiots behind this film could hide that.
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It strikes me that Bay and co really wanted a black ops military leader and were set for that no matter what.
What is weird is if they did a bit a digging they'd have seen an established fan favourite villain who fitted the bill perfectly Bishop. Even the idea that he wanted their blood for the mutagen fits with his agenda. They could have even worked Shredder in somehow. There's any number of scenarios that you could work Oroku Saki in but I doubt anyone making this movie is bothered with anything that isn't from the Fred Wolf show. |
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Yeah, the cat from Latino Review said he saw Fox shooting fight scenes where she was fighting off Foot soldiers with a sai, and that was filmed way back during the original shoots. So the claim that they needed to re-shoot her doing stuff she couldn't/didn't do back then because of her pregnancy is a laughable, blatant lie. They were just in full-blown panic mode and needed a cover story for the real reason, that they were making major last-minute narrative changes.
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This article confirms that he was supposed to be the Shredder originally.
For those that wanna just read the part where it's confirmed: Quote:
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Clearly he was meant to be. But fans moaning online made sure that never happened.
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