2003 series fan

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

I disagree. The tone the lines are delivered in sounds like that "fake" acting characters in a movie do when they're trying to act, or obviously lying. Like... all of the dialogue present on the entire [87] show sounds that way. It makes it difficult for me to watch.

If you don't hear that, though, that's honestly really cool and I'm glad. Because it's annoying as hell for me, lmao

Eh, their voices sound cartoonish to me, but that's hardly an issue.

[Turo602]

I still watch a few episodes every now and then, and the series still holds up quite well. The animation can be clunky sometimes, but for the most part, it's really well done. After watching it so many times, it's hard not to notice errors, sloppy designs, recycled or stiff animations. It's not as frequent or as jarring as some of the things seen in the 87 series, but it's still fun to point out. But there are also many moments and episodes that look really spectacular and fluid. It's a shame actually, because I see those moments and it's like, I would love to see a series or animated film that looks like that. Nitpicking aside, the 2k3 series is still my favorite incarnation of the TMNT and overall, one of my favorite animated series.

[ABrown]

Originally Posted by Turo602

After watching it so many times, it's hard not to notice errors, sloppy designs, recycled or stiff animations.

Do you happen to remember what any of them were off the top of your head. I am by no means saying that you are wrong. I am just curious what you noticed.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by ABrown

Do you happen to remember what any of them were off the top of your head. I am by no means saying that you are wrong. I am just curious what you noticed.

Hmm, there's a part during the Turtles in Space arc right before they meet Traximus when they fight all those other prisoners and Raph does a jump kick that has been seen in a previous episode, I think it was Lone Raph and Cub. It's one of those shots with the fast colorful background and I could tell it was recycled because I've definitely seen it before and also because Raph's sai is visible. In that particular scene, the turtles didn't have their weapons. There are similar moments to that spread throughout the show. Like this one animation during the rooftop fight with Shredder in The Shredder Strikes part 2 where Mikey fights off foot ninjas was used again. I can't recall which episode though, but I knew it was from that fight because Mikey still had the bandage wrapped around his foot. Splinter's fight against the foot in the alley from that same episode was also reused later that season in The Shredder Strikes Back part 2 during the attack on April's apartment.

As for mistakes, they're all over the show. Mainly with the strap across Leo's chest constantly disappearing in certain shots. I think the biggest mistake I ever caught was in Enter the Dragons part 1 at the very beginning when Splinter is sitting down with the Ancient One. His robe kept switching between his traditional brown one to the brown robe with the black sleeves and legs. The stiff animations I'd say were most noticeable throughout the first season. I don't know if stiff is exactly the right word, but certain movements did look awkward.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The biggest mistake I ever saw was in Touch and Go. Mikey threw away a couch cushion, but one second later Raph was sitting on it.

They're not noticeable unless you're looking for them, but you have to wonder sometimes who was running the quality control at the animation department.

[CyberCubed]

You guys do realize this show was animated by Koreans right? Dong Woo is a Korean animation studio.

They probably pay them mininum wage and force them to work 12 hours a day animating a cartoon. Give them a break.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You guys do realize this show was animated by Koreans right? Dong Woo is a Korean animation studio.

They probably pay them mininum wage and force them to work 12 hours a day animating a cartoon. Give them a break.

Yeah, I know. Still, all things considered they did a great job. I've seen lots of cartoons where voices don't match, blatant miscolorings, etc.

[Powder]

A lot of stuff was still done in the states, though. I met a ton of the 4kids animators & designers at NYCC in 2010.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Powder

A lot of stuff was still done in the states, though. I met a ton of the 4kids animators & designers at NYCC in 2010.

As far as I know, it's usually the "in-betweens" that are animated in Korean studios. The rest is animated in studios from the country that produces the cartoon.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

The biggest mistake I ever saw was in Touch and Go. Mikey threw away a couch cushion, but one second later Raph was sitting on it.

They're not noticeable unless you're looking for them, but you have to wonder sometimes who was running the quality control at the animation department.

It's also possible that some scenes were animated out of order, which would cause an inconsistency like this. But it DOESN'T explain stuff like this:

Luckily moments like that are few and far between, or at least difficult to notice.

[Turo602]

That's not a mistake... That's in the episode "What a Croc" when they fight the turtle bot and have to switch weapons in order to become unpredictable. If I recall correctly, Donnie even drops one sai and ends up throwing the other.

[DarkLightDragon]

Leo even made it a point that Splinter always encouraged them to practice using each other's weapons.

[CharmedSerenity]

I think Netkeeper means Donnie has the wrong-colored hands, they look more like Raph's.

[Netkeeper]

Yeah, those are DEFINITELY Raph's hands.

They literally pasted Raph's hands onto Don's body. It's hilarious.

[Turo602]

*facepalm* Well I feel stupid. Good catch. I never really saw anything wrong with that until now. I just thought it was an effect from the spinning of the weapon, which always looked cheap to me anyway, but those are definitely Raph's hands.

[Netkeeper]

Yeah. I have a screencap somewhere of another instance, where Leo had Mikey's hands for some reason, but because that one is much more difficult to spot I can't actually remember which screencap it was.

...It doesn't help that I have thousands.

[DarkLightDragon]

Oh jeez, I just noticed the hands too. Guess they were too small to notice when watching the episode.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

It's also possible that some scenes were animated out of order, which would cause an inconsistency like this. But it DOESN'T explain stuff like this:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/3d9987c97...vddfo1_500.gif
Luckily moments like that are few and far between, or at least difficult to notice.

Hey, those are some nice gloves you are wearing there Don. Where can I get some?

[tmnt lover girl]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

agreed, I can't really rule it out against the original series because of its significance to me but I just love 2k3 so much, whats everyones fav season?

Tmnt lover girl: Agreed so much. I love tmnt 2003! I love Raph like im his girlfriend! Love it!

[tmntpower1988]

Anyone notice in Same As It Never Was when Karai died Shredder wasn't bothered by it all? You'd think he would care about her since he adopted and raised her.