Ninja Turtles Origin was kinda like IDW.

*PizzaPower* · 08-22-2014, 05:17 PM

It sorta kinda was I mean. The origin of the Turtles was poorly told, but it had a IDW origin feel to it. What do you guys think?

ScrewtheMirageTMNT · 08-22-2014, 05:22 PM

Their origin was fine to me, I mean it wasn't complicated to understand. It's very straight forward.

*Slade* · 08-22-2014, 05:44 PM

I wish they would have changed one line, just one. Where Splinter says he doesn't remember anything before the lab, have him say he is starting to have flashbacks or something.

Leolead · 08-22-2014, 05:58 PM

Yeah but I don't read IDW and I don't care for IDW, I want the origin as far away as possible from IDW

cloud · 08-22-2014, 06:11 PM

It sure felt that way by having April knowing the Turtles and Splinter prior to meeting than after the mutation.
I'm just not sure how cellular regeneration can cause mutated turtles and rats. I just feel like the original origin fitted the absurdity of the TMNT better.

*CyberCubed* · 08-22-2014, 06:13 PM

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Yeah but I don't read IDW and I don't care for IDW, I want the origin as far away as possible from IDW

You won't read a good series yet you watched this crap movie.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 08-22-2014, 09:33 PM

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I wish they would have changed one line, just one. Where Splinter says he doesn't remember anything before the lab, have him say he is starting to have flashbacks or something.

Tell me about it! >< All it would've taken was 'how I learned martial arts is a story for another time', or 'reading that book gave me visions of another life, and somehow, I felt as if I already knew those moves by heart..."

Leolead · 08-22-2014, 11:08 PM

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You won't read a good series yet you watched this crap movie.

I have my reasons for disliking IDW

As for TMNT being a crap movie? that's your opinion dude, I thought it was the best TMNT movie yet.

*Slade* · 08-22-2014, 11:11 PM

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Tell me about it! >< All it would've taken was 'how I learned martial arts is a story for another time', or 'reading that book gave me visions of another life, and somehow, I felt as if I already knew those moves by heart..."

Exactly. Instead, he says he has doesn't remember anything before the lab..but when Shredder shows up? He acts like he knows what's up with him? How's that even work?

*Warhorse* · 08-23-2014, 01:25 AM

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Yeah but I don't read IDW and I don't care for IDW, I want the origin as far away as possible from IDW

This! Not a fan of the IDW origin at all. (Or just the reincarnation crap. I hate reincarnations, it's sh!tty storytelling to me.)

Leolead · 08-23-2014, 01:43 AM

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This! Not a fan of the IDW origin at all. (Or just the reincarnation crap. I hate reincarnations, it's sh!tty storytelling to me.)

Exactly!

That's why I stick to the Mirage comics.

*Warhorse* · 08-23-2014, 02:01 AM

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Exactly!

That's why I stick to the Mirage comics.

I hate to do this, but I was never a fan of Splinter always being a rat. I liked the OT and the Nick's versions more, where Yoshi is Splinter. But for overall, I just liked the idea that the Turtles and Splinter were just accidents, no preset destiny, or that they were biologically made warfare weapons, or experiments.

Leolead · 08-23-2014, 02:12 AM

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I hate to do this, but I was never a fan of Splinter always being a rat. I liked the OT and the Nick's versions more, where Yoshi is Splinter. But for overall, I just liked the idea that the Turtles and Splinter were just accidents, no preset destiny, or that they were biologically made warfare weapons, or experiments.

As much as I like the Mirage comics, you're right. Splinter actually being Hamato yoshi makes a lot more sense, than Splinter training/mimicking Hamato from his cage

regarding IDW, it's the Turtles I have a problem with, I just hate the idea of the Turtles being humans, ya know.

*Warhorse* · 08-23-2014, 02:18 AM

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As much as I like the Mirage comics, you're right. Splinter actually being Hamato yoshi makes a lot more sense, than Splinter training/mimicking Hamato from his cage

regarding IDW, it's the Turtles I have a problem with, I just hate the idea of the Turtles being humans, ya know.

This. I'd rather them be aliens from another life than humans!

But, stuff like this is probably why I am not a big comic book reader. When people tell me when watching Thor that Odin's horse is Loki's son, it's kind of hard to grasp and not go WTF?

Hannurdock · 08-23-2014, 02:24 AM

Maybe the movie being vague about back story was deliberate? To get the fans all worked up? I like the idea of Splinter having that extra line though, it would have added so much more and got everyone thinking that the book wasn't the only way he learned Ninjutsu.

*Candy Kappa* · 08-23-2014, 02:57 AM

Kinda, sorta maybe. They've only been lab-animals in IDW, so that's the major similarity part. What they where tested on is different, although the Carapace Armor from IDW would be a great way to backhandedly explain why the PD turtles are bullet proof.

No Splintering serum, Baxter is a background character instead of the guy leading the projects. No reincarnation (for now) the turtles are older then IDW turtles, as first issue depicts the turtles 15 months after mutation and not 15 years as the usual stories go.

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This. I'd rather them be aliens from another life than humans!

But, stuff like this is probably why I am not a big comic book reader. When people tell me when watching Thor that Odin's horse is Loki's son, it's kind of hard to grasp and not go WTF?

Well, that's actual bits from the real-life mythology, Loki is Sleipner's Mother, as he was shapeshifted to a Mare at the time, he is also the father of the Fenris Wolf and Jormungand and the Goddess Hel.

But, in real life Loki is not Thor's Brother, or the adoptive som of Odin. That part is all Marvel.

*Warhorse* · 08-23-2014, 03:33 AM

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Well, that's actual bits from the real-life mythology, Loki is Sleipner's Mother, as he was shapeshifted to a Mare at the time, he is also the father of the Fenris Wolf and Jormungand and the Goddess Hel.

But, in real life Loki is not Thor's Brother, or the adoptive som of Odin. That part is all Marvel.

And this all comes across as someone who had to be stoned out of their mind to come up with this sh!t. Sorry, somethings I have to close the door on.

tmntpower2k14 · 08-23-2014, 03:53 AM

Splinter learning ninjitsu from a book is so much less plausible than a normal rat somehow mimicking human movements, and having the intelligence to learn martial arts. All BEFORE the mutation that enhances his physical, and mental capabilities.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-23-2014, 04:04 AM

Learning - especially "mastering" - anything that's overtly physical simply by reading a book about it is absolutely, unquestionably, indefensibly, irredeemably stupid.

Whether it's more or less stupid than the whole "rat jumping around in his cage mimicking his owner" thing is a matter of preference; they're both really stupid.

tmntpower2k14 · 08-23-2014, 04:07 AM

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Learning - especially "mastering" - anything that's overtly physical simply by reading a book about it is absolutely, unquestionably, indefensibly, irredeemably stupid.

Whether it's more or less stupid than the whole "rat jumping around in his cage mimicking his owner" thing is a matter of preference; they're both really stupid.

That's my point. Both are absurd. As is the very essence of TMNT. People don't GET the property they claim to be fans of.

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Leolead Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2014 Location: Cali Posts: 909	Yeah but I don't read IDW and I don't care for IDW, I want the origin as far away as possible from IDW __________________

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Hannurdock Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 236	Maybe the movie being vague about back story was deliberate? To get the fans all worked up? I like the idea of Splinter having that extra line though, it would have added so much more and got everyone thinking that the book wasn't the only way he learned Ninjutsu. __________________ *Try to be like the turtle ... at ease in your own shell.*

08-22-2014, 05:22 PM	#2
ScrewtheMirageTMNT Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 493	Their origin was fine to me, I mean it wasn't complicated to understand. It's very straight forward.

08-22-2014, 06:11 PM	#5
cloud Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 738	It sure felt that way by having April knowing the Turtles and Splinter prior to meeting than after the mutation. I'm just not sure how cellular regeneration can cause mutated turtles and rats. I just feel like the original origin fitted the absurdity of the TMNT better.

08-23-2014, 03:53 AM	#18
tmntpower2k14 Thug Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 74	Splinter learning ninjitsu from a book is so much less plausible than a normal rat somehow mimicking human movements, and having the intelligence to learn martial arts. All BEFORE the mutation that enhances his physical, and mental capabilities.

08-23-2014, 04:04 AM	#19
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Learning - especially "mastering" - anything that's overtly physical simply by reading a book about it is absolutely, unquestionably, indefensibly, irredeemably stupid. Whether it's more or less stupid than the whole "rat jumping around in his cage mimicking his owner" thing is a matter of preference; they're both really stupid.