Do you consider the movie canon? - Page 2

DarkLightDragon · 08-29-2014, 06:42 AM

The 2014 film being canon to the first three movies (and 07' to an extent)?

No, of course not. The fact that it's a reboot should be a dead-giveaway that it wasn't going to connect itself to the older movies.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-29-2014, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Wow. You've managed to be the biggest buffoon in a thread started by cybercubed. Good job.

Dumb twat like you takes comments from people too seriously, even if it doesn't concern you.

Ignoring you now.

Now what I stated earlier is that the 3 movies can continue to 2k7, and (in a separate timeline) 2k3 can possibly be seen continue to 2k7. It goes either way the way I see. Imagine the shape of the flux capacitor.

*ToTheNines* · 08-29-2014, 07:25 AM

Absolutely not. I won't get into the live action trilogy debate for the millionth time, but there's no way 4kids and 2k7 share a universe.

Karai alone makes it impossible, even without the countless other contradictions.

*chrisdude* · 08-29-2014, 07:32 AM

I wish the 2014 movie had tie-in comics. It's kind of the norm, now. The Marvel Studios movies have them, The Amazing Spider-Man movies, Man of Steel, all Paramount's Transformers, GI Joe and Star Trek movies... I'm honestly surprised this movie didn't have one. Maybe we'll get some for the sequel.

massakre · 08-29-2014, 07:45 AM

LOL this thread has went waaaay further than it should have

annnd im adding to it with this post lol

Matt2310 · 08-29-2014, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Whether we like it or not (And I'm definitely one of the ones who don't), this is just another universe with it's own Turtles.

6-foot bulletproof Turtles. *sigh*

just the shells are bulletproof

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-29-2014, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt2310

just the shells are bulletproof

I still think it's a stupid idea.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 08-29-2014, 12:30 PM

Of course Batman could be black, and so could Casey Jones.
Don't be racist.

Hannurdock · 08-29-2014, 12:44 PM

Canon just means official and not fan based. For example, Leo hating cooking isn't canon. So, all official versions of TMNT are canon.

It's just one big crazy multiverse where anything goes.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 08-29-2014, 12:47 PM

Of course it's canon, in its own universe...

I'm just confused by this thread.

*Galactus* · 08-29-2014, 01:53 PM

Sadly yes. Easily the worst thing in the canon for me and the most damaging thing to the canon overall.

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude

I wish the 2014 movie had tie-in comics. It's kind of the norm, now. The Marvel Studios movies have them, The Amazing Spider-Man movies, Man of Steel, all Paramount's Transformers, GI Joe and Star Trek movies... I'm honestly surprised this movie didn't have one. Maybe we'll get some for the sequel.

IDW said they want nothing to do with the new movie, which is why there are no comics or even a comic adaption of the movie like the other 4 movies have.

IDW predicted a bomb like we did and I'm glad they're not wasting comics in this movie universe. I don't ever want to read a comic with Shrek Turtles and Megan Fox April.

*Warhorse* · 08-29-2014, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannurdock

Canon just means official and not fan based. For example, Leo hating cooking isn't canon. So, all official versions of TMNT are canon.

It's just one big crazy multiverse where anything goes.

Yeah, but now that there is no truly anything official since Peter Laird sold his rights to Nick, what is exactly canon now? Splinter being just Hamato Yoshi's pet or being Hamato Yoshi himself, which is going to now be the official story? When properties like this get sold out to something else, canon in my mind, goes out the damn window. Heck, Leonardo has always been the leader, but Nick could all of a sudden turn around and make Donny the defacto leader, and since they own the property, they could make it canon, despite pissing off a lot of fans.

DevilSpooky · 08-29-2014, 09:15 PM

What a stupid question, this is not Star Wars where you have one continuous universe when you can categorize anything released as canon or non-canon, every version of the turtles is in it's own universe other then a few run-ins with each other like Turtles Forever or that one issue with Cudley the Cowlick, etc. Every version is canon in it's own universe.

*snake* · 08-29-2014, 09:16 PM

Yeah, it's in it's own universe.

nellyp · 08-30-2014, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

IDW said they want nothing to do with the new movie, which is why there are no comics or even a comic adaption of the movie like the other 4 movies have.

IDW predicted a bomb like we did and I'm glad they're not wasting comics in this movie universe. I don't ever want to read a comic with Shrek Turtles and Megan Fox April.

How is the movie a bomb? While it was panned by critics the movie is successful financially and was an enjoyable summer action movie. Apparently it has a 60% approval rating among viewers who are the ones that really matter. It was number 1 for 2 weeks and barely toppled on week 3. Saying "we" predicted a bomb implies you speak for everyone here but your opinion is not my own. That would be like if I said "True turtles fans" like the movie, but I can't speak for everyone.

As for the question at hand, as some people pointed out with Turtles Forever there is no one true cannon just a bunch of different stories with similar retellings. If anything would be considered cannon it would be the original comic books written by Mirage.

*Xav* · 08-30-2014, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Absolutely not. I won't get into the live action trilogy debate for the millionth time, but there's no way 4kids and 2k7 share a universe.

Karai alone makes it impossible, even without the countless other contradictions.

Karai exists in the 4Kids universe.

**Jester** · 08-30-2014, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Absolutely not. I won't get into the live action trilogy debate for the millionth time, but there's no way 4kids and 2k7 share a universe.

Karai alone makes it impossible, even without the countless other contradictions.

You're right, but there were some tie in books for kids that threw Silver Sentry into the crazy hodge-podge that was the 2k7 movie-verse.

*shuriken* · 08-30-2014, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilSpooky

What a stupid question, this is not Star Wars where you have one continuous universe when you can categorize anything released as canon or non-canon, every version of the turtles is in it's own universe other then a few run-ins with each other like Turtles Forever or that one issue with Cudley the Cowlick, etc. Every version is canon in it's own universe.

This. Someone please close this thread before it sucks more people in with its terribleness. People should know the meaning of canon before asking what is canon and what isn't. jeez

*neatoman* · 08-30-2014, 04:19 AM

Well you see, when it comes to big multi-media franchises like TMNT, canon is kind of a dying concept as there's just so many reboots and alternate continuities. Hell, there are three relevant continuities for new TMNT material (four if you count the snail pace of Mirage).

Technically speaking though, since the new movie is the most successful (I think) of the three relevant continuities, it would not surprise me if Nickelodeon declared the new movie's continuity as the true current canon, but I don't believe they are interested in officially declaring one specific incarnation as the core one. Like I said, it's a dying idea.

If you really want to think TMNT in terms of canon though, the Mirage series would be the canon and everything else is considered adaptations and alternate takes.

08-29-2014, 07:32 AM	#24
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	I wish the 2014 movie had tie-in comics. It's kind of the norm, now. The Marvel Studios movies have them, The Amazing Spider-Man movies, Man of Steel, all Paramount's Transformers, GI Joe and Star Trek movies... I'm honestly surprised this movie didn't have one. Maybe we'll get some for the sequel. __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

08-29-2014, 12:44 PM	#29
Hannurdock Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 236	Canon just means official and not fan based. For example, Leo hating cooking isn't canon. So, all official versions of TMNT are canon. It's just one big crazy multiverse where anything goes. __________________ *Try to be like the turtle ... at ease in your own shell.*

08-29-2014, 09:15 PM	#34
DevilSpooky Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Portugal Posts: 884	What a stupid question, this is not Star Wars where you have one continuous universe when you can categorize anything released as canon or non-canon, every version of the turtles is in it's own universe other then a few run-ins with each other like Turtles Forever or that one issue with Cudley the Cowlick, etc. Every version is canon in it's own universe. __________________ Life at best is bittersweet

08-29-2014, 06:42 AM	#21
DarkLightDragon Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,026	The 2014 film being canon to the first three movies (and 07' to an extent)? No, of course not. The fact that it's a reboot should be a dead-giveaway that it wasn't going to connect itself to the older movies.

08-29-2014, 07:25 AM	#23
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,356	Absolutely not. I won't get into the live action trilogy debate for the millionth time, but there's no way 4kids and 2k7 share a universe. Karai alone makes it impossible, even without the countless other contradictions.

08-29-2014, 07:45 AM	#25
massakre Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 182	LOL this thread has went waaaay further than it should have annnd im adding to it with this post lol

08-29-2014, 12:30 PM	#28
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	Of course Batman could be black, and so could Casey Jones. Don't be racist.

08-29-2014, 01:53 PM	#31
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	Sadly yes. Easily the worst thing in the canon for me and the most damaging thing to the canon overall.

08-29-2014, 09:16 PM	#35
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Yeah, it's in it's own universe.

08-30-2014, 04:19 AM	#40
neatoman Overlord Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Stockholm Posts: 11,086	Well you see, when it comes to big multi-media franchises like TMNT, canon is kind of a dying concept as there's just so many reboots and alternate continuities. Hell, there are three relevant continuities for new TMNT material (four if you count the snail pace of Mirage). Technically speaking though, since the new movie is the most successful (I think) of the three relevant continuities, it would not surprise me if Nickelodeon declared the new movie's continuity as the true current canon, but I don't believe they are interested in officially declaring one specific incarnation as the core one. Like I said, it's a dying idea. If you really want to think TMNT in terms of canon though, the Mirage series would be the canon and everything else is considered adaptations and alternate takes.