Have you ever disliked any of the turtles for a brief or prolonged period of time? - Page 4

*Slap-Happy* · 08-30-2014, 11:37 PM

Mikey (aside from Mirage, IDW and Nick) has annoyed me for ten years at this point.

*Electric* · 08-31-2014, 12:02 AM

perfect thread title for my situation

when i first started watching the nick series, i couldnt stand nick donnie.
donnie has been my favorite turtle in everything, i relate to him, then in nick i couldnt stand him. his design was too distinguished, his voice was more different than it had ever been, he was not his normal calm collected self.

but as ive watched the show, donnie has won me back. i will just always prefer the calmer, quieter donnie than the nerdy, highstrung one. my favorite incarnations of donnie are actually 2 odd ones. the oots video game and the new movie. oots had his different design, just toned down, with a more fitting voice, and less nerdy and more intellectual. and the movie donnie had a great voice, great comments, balanced out the nerd and the wisdom, and had a great design, besides glasses.

and plus, while there was a momentary absence of my favorite turtle, it allowed room for me to really start to like leo. first in just nicks, but then in most incarnations. so now they both are, donnie slightly taking the lead.

~~Davetello~~ · 08-31-2014, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ElectricN

perfect thread title for my situation

when i first started watching the nick series, i couldnt stand nick donnie.
donnie has been my favorite turtle in everything, i relate to him, then in nick i couldnt stand him. his design was too distinguished, his voice was more different than it had ever been, he was not his normal calm collected self.

but as ive watched the show, donnie has won me back. i will just always prefer the calmer, quieter donnie than the nerdy, highstrung one. my favorite incarnations of donnie are actually 2 odd ones. the oots video game and the new movie. oots had his different design, just toned down, with a more fitting voice, and less nerdy and more intellectual. and the movie donnie had a great voice, great comments, balanced out the nerd and the wisdom, and had a great design, besides glasses.

and plus, while there was a momentary absence of my favorite turtle, it allowed room for me to really start to like leo. first in just nicks, but then in most incarnations. so now they both are, donnie slightly taking the lead.

Nice post. Obviously Donatello is my favourite as well but I've noticed a few people express dissatisfaction at how he's portrayed in the Nick series (relating to how you felt before he won you back). I have to say he's never really annoyed me in the show, although I could do with slightly less of his crush on April.

*Electric* · 08-31-2014, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Davetello

Nice post. Obviously Donatello is my favourite as well but I've noticed a few people express dissatisfaction at how he's portrayed in the Nick series (relating to how you felt before he won you back). I have to say he's never really annoyed me in the show, although I could do with slightly less of his crush on April.

Surprisingly the April crush doesn't bother me at all.

And I've said it any time I've talked about this: I totally get why they did nick Donnie this way. It's not a bad take on him, he fits great in this series, it's just not the Donnie I normally prefer.

But again, I've gotten used to him. Season 2 especially. To me it seems like they've toned down some of his high strungness, and he's lost some of his nerdiness.

Leofan26 · 08-31-2014, 01:57 PM

I dislike Mikey of the Nick series now till they actually mature him and make better use of him.

I've sadly always disliked Raph in every series, maybe that's cuz of the tensions and fights they always seem to have. Take the 2007 Animated flick for example, he was way too harsh on Leo, that Guy was just lost and confused at that time. Donnie and Mikey understood it but Raph man, he nearly killed the guy

Ok, he was alright in the 80s series and I find him ok in the 2012 series, they just need to do more with his character is all.

Maybe it was just the 2003 series and 2007 film I had a problem with him in.

Though I do tend to get annoyed with how much the films focus on him but that's a different matter, I don't hate his character for that.

Leofan26 · 08-31-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

I've never disliked any of the Turtles. But, I have disliked many Leonardo fans, and I know it sometimes it carries on in discussion threads. Now, while I don't dislike any of them, there are times where I get bored with Donny and Mikey.

Hey, what'd us Leo fans do to you to get hated on? I've come across a lot of major Raph fan boys who give people who don't agree with them a hard time. I don't hate any of you for it

*ToTheNines* · 08-31-2014, 02:07 PM

I hate Leo in almost everything. Nicktoon Leo is my favorite though.

Mikey... 4kids obviously. If you're gonna make him the comic relief character, please make him funny at least. I can't stand how he revels in the fact that he annoys his brothers. And he's a coward.

I got real sick of Raph in Turtles Forever, that's about it. I guess he's the turtle I feel the most ambivalently about.

Donatello forever! I thought they went WAY overboard with his design in the new movie, and overdid his voice on plenty of lines, but who can hate Donnie?

*CyberCubed* · 08-31-2014, 03:43 PM

I don't see how anyone can hate Leo.

*ToTheNines* · 08-31-2014, 05:13 PM

All his incessant bitching about guns in the Archie books. His dull, one note personality in the OT. The fact that he cried and ALMOST JOINED THE FOOT CLAN because Splinter said he was a badass ninja and his swords were no big deal. His blind, self-righteous attitude in the 07 movie.

Love him in the 90's trilogy and Nicktoon. Like him in Mirage, IDW and the new movie.

**Jester** · 08-31-2014, 05:21 PM

I disliked all 4 for about an hour and a half a little while back....
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*shuriken* · 08-31-2014, 06:33 PM

I hated Cyborg Don in Image. Moreso his design, easily more overkill than the new movie, which is quite impressive when you think about it.

*Powder* · 08-31-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken

I hated Cyborg Don in Image. Moreso his design, easily more overkill than the new movie, which is quite impressive when you think about it.

-Don becomes cyborg because there is no other option than death
-This is "overkill"

-Don wears giant taped glasses, proton pack, powerglove, motherboard armor & more
-This is completely normal

Go away.

*Warhorse* · 08-31-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Leofan26

Hey, what'd us Leo fans do to you to get hated on? I've come across a lot of major Raph fan boys who give people who don't agree with them a hard time. I don't hate any of you for it

Not you in particular, but quite a few in the past. I've seen a couple of Leo fans wishing Raphael was killed off because they thought he was nothing to the team but a problem, and stuff like that irks me.

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Originally Posted by Jester

I disliked all 4 for about an hour and a half a little while back....
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Cute!

*ToTheNines* · 08-31-2014, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

-Don becomes cyborg because there is no other option than death
-This is "overkill"

-Don wears giant taped glasses, proton pack, powerglove, motherboard armor & more
-This is completely normal

Go away.

Haha, well said. You forgot the PKE goggles though lol.

Technogeek29 · 08-31-2014, 10:42 PM

Depends on the version for me.
Ot. Leonardo is pretty bland when he isn't the primary focus of an episode, most of his lines are just the Turtles catch phrases or telling the others to charge into battle.

2k3 Raphael suffers from the same problem as OT Leo. Being incredibly one note when he isn't the focus of the episode. And the voice while I like it is something I'd imagine for a much older Raphael.

Nick Michelangelo unforunately suffers from Nick dumb character symdrome. Even when he is the focus the shows loves to highlight how clueless and out of the loop he is more often than they show his competent side.

*DarkFell* · 08-31-2014, 11:38 PM

OT Raphael as a kid. Because that episode Raphael Knocks Them Dead had some of the lamest jokes. Eventually he re-earned my respect from his smart*** remarks and his -not forced- sense of humor.

OT Leonardo as a kid. I sorta found him bland and a bit annoying. I later grew to realize and accept that he was just trying to be responsible.

*Funny thing to note - in a Pat Fraley interview he had mentioned his VA work on the show and Cam Clarke *Leonardo* called himself "The hero boring Turtle" in a discussion they had at the studio.

*ssjup81* · 09-01-2014, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFell

OT Raphael as a kid. Because that episode Raphael Knocks Them Dead had some of the lamest jokes. Eventually he re-earned my respect from his smart*** remarks and his -not forced- sense of humor.

But that was the point of the episode. The jokes were purposely bad. Raph, when captured, was telling bad jokes on purpose and I'm pretty sure he points it out for that ep.

jenna · 09-01-2014, 02:38 PM

Leo has annoyed me in many universes because he is self-indulgent. He nurtures his sense of failure and inadequacy like a true narcissist. (OT Follow my Leader, 2k7 "Sorry I failed", 2k3 every flipping epidode). I like how Nick are handling this aspect of his character though.

*IndigoErth* · 09-01-2014, 03:04 PM

Narcissist... or just rather insecure deep down and stressed out, even while he tries to put on a brave face. Not every contemplative person who's insecure and gets caught up in too much thinking is a narcissist.

By the sounds of it, sounds like Nick Leo may have his own darker period coming though.

Edit: Leo seems to try to handle his confidence issues alone sometimes, much the same as Raph and his own emotional battles. Either way it's gonna eat you up inside...

jenna · 09-02-2014, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Narcissist... or just rather insecure deep down and stressed out, even while he tries to put on a brave face. Not every contemplative person who's insecure and gets caught up in too much thinking is a narcissist.

By the sounds of it, sounds like Nick Leo may have his own darker period coming though.

Edit: Leo seems to try to handle his confidence issues alone sometimes, much the same as Raph and his own emotional battles. Either way it's gonna eat you up inside...

All of the above. I agree with you that Leo is generally reflective and conscientious. I'm talking about the brief phases when he wallows in his own sense of failure. Nothing really wrong with a touch of narcissism - everyone has narcissistic tendencies to a greater or lesser extent. This makes Leo an interesting character.

I think Raphael is different, because he doesn't reflect inwardly like Leo does to ask why he feels bad. He just reacts primitively and often attaches the bad feeling to an external object (ie I'm angry because Leo made me angry) and doesn't necessary recognise his own demons. Leo does the reverse.

Don't get me wrong, I love them both. They have flaws, like all real characters. That's what makes them so interesting to watch and to read.

08-31-2014, 12:02 AM	#62
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	perfect thread title for my situation when i first started watching the nick series, i couldnt stand nick donnie. donnie has been my favorite turtle in everything, i relate to him, then in nick i couldnt stand him. his design was too distinguished, his voice was more different than it had ever been, he was not his normal calm collected self. but as ive watched the show, donnie has won me back. i will just always prefer the calmer, quieter donnie than the nerdy, highstrung one. my favorite incarnations of donnie are actually 2 odd ones. the oots video game and the new movie. oots had his different design, just toned down, with a more fitting voice, and less nerdy and more intellectual. and the movie donnie had a great voice, great comments, balanced out the nerd and the wisdom, and had a great design, besides glasses. and plus, while there was a momentary absence of my favorite turtle, it allowed room for me to really start to like leo. first in just nicks, but then in most incarnations. so now they both are, donnie slightly taking the lead. __________________

08-31-2014, 05:21 PM	#70
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I disliked all 4 for about an hour and a half a little while back.... [/snark] __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-31-2014, 06:33 PM	#71
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	I hated Cyborg Don in Image. Moreso his design, easily more overkill than the new movie, which is quite impressive when you think about it. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

09-01-2014, 03:04 PM	#79
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	Narcissist... or just rather insecure deep down and stressed out, even while he tries to put on a brave face. Not every contemplative person who's insecure and gets caught up in too much thinking is a narcissist. By the sounds of it, sounds like Nick Leo may have his own darker period coming though. Edit: Leo seems to try to handle his confidence issues alone sometimes, much the same as Raph and his own emotional battles. Either way it's gonna eat you up inside... Last edited by IndigoErth; 09-01-2014 at 03:12 PM.

08-30-2014, 11:37 PM	#61
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	Mikey (aside from Mirage, IDW and Nick) has annoyed me for ten years at this point.

08-31-2014, 01:57 PM	#65
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	I dislike Mikey of the Nick series now till they actually mature him and make better use of him. I've sadly always disliked Raph in every series, maybe that's cuz of the tensions and fights they always seem to have. Take the 2007 Animated flick for example, he was way too harsh on Leo, that Guy was just lost and confused at that time. Donnie and Mikey understood it but Raph man, he nearly killed the guy Ok, he was alright in the 80s series and I find him ok in the 2012 series, they just need to do more with his character is all. Maybe it was just the 2003 series and 2007 film I had a problem with him in. Though I do tend to get annoyed with how much the films focus on him but that's a different matter, I don't hate his character for that.

08-31-2014, 02:07 PM	#67
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	I hate Leo in almost everything. Nicktoon Leo is my favorite though. Mikey... 4kids obviously. If you're gonna make him the comic relief character, please make him funny at least. I can't stand how he revels in the fact that he annoys his brothers. And he's a coward. I got real sick of Raph in Turtles Forever, that's about it. I guess he's the turtle I feel the most ambivalently about. Donatello forever! I thought they went WAY overboard with his design in the new movie, and overdid his voice on plenty of lines, but who can hate Donnie?

08-31-2014, 03:43 PM	#68
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	I don't see how anyone can hate Leo.

08-31-2014, 05:13 PM	#69
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	All his incessant bitching about guns in the Archie books. His dull, one note personality in the OT. The fact that he cried and ALMOST JOINED THE FOOT CLAN because Splinter said he was a badass ninja and his swords were no big deal. His blind, self-righteous attitude in the 07 movie. Love him in the 90's trilogy and Nicktoon. Like him in Mirage, IDW and the new movie.

08-31-2014, 10:42 PM	#75
Technogeek29 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville Posts: 1,486	Depends on the version for me. Ot. Leonardo is pretty bland when he isn't the primary focus of an episode, most of his lines are just the Turtles catch phrases or telling the others to charge into battle. 2k3 Raphael suffers from the same problem as OT Leo. Being incredibly one note when he isn't the focus of the episode. And the voice while I like it is something I'd imagine for a much older Raphael. Nick Michelangelo unforunately suffers from Nick dumb character symdrome. Even when he is the focus the shows loves to highlight how clueless and out of the loop he is more often than they show his competent side.

09-01-2014, 02:38 PM	#78
jenna Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,190	Leo has annoyed me in many universes because he is self-indulgent. He nurtures his sense of failure and inadequacy like a true narcissist. (OT Follow my Leader, 2k7 "Sorry I failed", 2k3 every flipping epidode). I like how Nick are handling this aspect of his character though.