The Turtle's (who is eldest/youngest)

[Warhorse]

I was just reading something off of http://tmnt2012series.wikia.com/wiki/TMNT_Wiki

And it has listed in order of eldest Turtle to youngest Turtle.

Leonardo
Raphael
Donatello
Michelangelo.

How accurate is this site, and do you agree with it?

It also mentions that the crack on Raphael's plastron and shell (which looks like something large fell on him, and cut him pretty deep, ) and they say it was caused pre mutation, since he seemed to have it when Splinter was telling the story. I was hoping Raph got it later on in life, and it would be the reason why he is the way he is, but then again, this site might be a bunch of crap.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I was just reading something off of http://tmnt2012series.wikia.com/wiki/TMNT_Wiki

And it has listed in order of eldest Turtle to youngest Turtle.

Leonardo
Raphael
Donatello
Michelangelo.

How accurate is this site, and do you agree with it?

It also mentions that the crack on Raphael's plastron and shell (which looks like something large fell on him, and cut him pretty deep, ) and they say it was caused pre mutation, since he seemed to have it when Splinter was telling the story. I was hoping Raph got it later on in life, and it would be the reason why he is the way he is, but then again, this site might be a bunch of crap.

The age rank is accurate, at least for this incarnation of the series. In the Tales of the Turtle Lair comic which can be found on the Nick site, Splinter introduces his sons as Leo the eldest, Raph the Second eldest, Donnie the third eldest, and Mikey the youngest.

As for the crack, we haven't learned anything about it. Odds are the crack was just placed there on the image of the Turtles as small children as a means of pointing out who was who. They are supposedly going to talk about about the crack and how it relates to Raph's anger some time in the next season.

[Warhorse]

And I've noticed, it's not just the crack across the plastron, but it also lines up to the crack on his shell as well, so something big must have fallen on him sometime in the past. I'm surprised he don't have a scar along his shoulder. But curious indeed on how he got that. I'm wondering if it was inflicted on him by an opponent, or did he get it while trying to save someone? (Like holding up something heavy so another being could get out of the way?)

[Luckyday]

But since they all seem to be the same age and adopted; they have no way of knowing which is the oldest.

I wonder if there was a social experiment which quadruplets were adopted as babies to test to see if the birth order personalities were either nurture or nature.

[IndigoErth]

Leo and Mikey are the easy ones... Raph and Donnie are more debatable though I guess, depending which version, though it stands to reason that Raph being second oldest makes sense given the relationship between him and Leo.

Speaking as an oldest, the sibling right behind you isn't always an easy one to deal with that's for sure. lol Growing up my sister and I were somewhat a Leo/Raph kind of dynamic... Luckily she grew up to be a bit more of a Mikey.

Originally Posted by Warhorse

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Cheeky little bugger... lol Such a 'bull in a china shop,' I wouldn't be too surprised if he got that damage simply due to his "leap first, look later" persona.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

But since they all seem to be the same age and adopted; they have no way of knowing which is the oldest.

I wonder if there was a social experiment which quadruplets were adopted as babies to test to see if the birth order personalities were either nurture or nature.

It's possible the Turtle's themselves remember which one was hatched first and the one hatched last and in between. Maybe when Yoshi got them from the pet shop, he was told which one was oldest to youngest, and remembered. Has there been a mention that they are indeed brothers? I swore I saw an episode where Donnie claimed he wasn't 100% sure what kind of breed they were period, has he confirmed that they are indeed biological brothers?

[Refractive Reflections]

This thread could help add to the discussion:
Who's older? Donatello or Raphael?

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

This thread could help add to the discussion:
Who's older? Donatello or Raphael?

I'm talking about the 2012 incarnation, not in general. Hence why I stuck it in the 2012 thread.

[Mellie]

Raph seems young and immature in the Nick show. I would put him below Donnie.

edit: Well, thinking about it I could see Raph being the second oldest brother. He does treat Mikey and Donnie different than he treats Leo (slapping them, certain insults, etc).. Would he smack his older brother? It's hard to say. Plus of course his whole rivalry with Leo.
When it comes to emotions and maturity I think he's below Donnie, but possibly older than him in age.



Side note, I enjoy their height differences and agree with them.

[BabyTurtles]

Raph will always be second oldest to me

I like to think of him being one step behind Leo even in age which would make sense with his rivalry and all

also it feels like both Raph and Leo are in charge with keeping Mikey and Don safe.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Raph will always be second oldest to me

I like to think of him being one step behind Leo even in age which would make sense with his rivalry and all

also it feels like both Raph and Leo are in charge with keeping Mikey and Don safe.

I was getting that feeling too, right from the beginning. When they first go to the top side, Leonardo was the one over excited about being topside, claiming how there might be an adventure around every corner, so while he was kind of scoping the place out, Raphael seemed to have stayed back to keep an eye on Donny and Mikey. I took the scene where Donny was excited about some new micro-processor, and Raph was being a bit sarcastic about it as cover that Raph was making sure he was safe, and the same with Mikey, when he was all amazed about the eye light, which Raph finally had to pull him away to keep him with the rest of the group. Stuff like this is usually what the elder brother would do. Usually. Not always, but usually.

At the same time, in the Leatherhead episode, despite Raph's relationship with Leo and Donny sometimes at odds with eachother, I thought it was cute when Leo and Donny freaked the hell out when they thought their pain in the ass brother just lost his head. It shows, as much grief they give eachother, they would be horrified if something bad happened to one of them. It's going to be interesting to see how the Leo one shot pans out. Who is going to take it the worst?

[evan2000]

When they were sparring 2-on-2 in Mousers Attack, it felt like they were arranged from the eldest to youngest in these shots:





Also Leo commented that "isn't that a little unfair?" probably referring to the two younger brothers having to face the two older brothers being unfair, at least it felt that way to me.

[Warhorse]

That "a little unfair" comment, well, wasn't there an episode where both Leo and Raph agreed that they were the A team when it came to fighting and Donnie and Mikey were the B team, so maybe he and Raph were being cocky.

[Hannurdock]

I always thought it was Leo, Raph, Donny and Mikey.

[evan2000]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

That "a little unfair" comment, well, wasn't there an episode where both Leo and Raph agreed that they were the A team when it came to fighting and Donnie and Mikey were the B team, so maybe he and Raph were being cocky.

Yep, that was in the same episode, ie. Mousers Attack!

[arkangel]

After Raph was born, Donnie and Mikey just fell out together.

[Hannurdock]

Ask mum.

[Discogod]

Warhorse, learn to use a f*ckin' apostrophe properly, will ya? There's a good lad.

[jenna]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

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And I've noticed, it's not just the crack across the plastron, but it also lines up to the crack on his shell as well, so something big must have fallen on him sometime in the past. I'm surprised he don't have a scar along his shoulder. But curious indeed on how he got that. I'm wondering if it was inflicted on him by an opponent, or did he get it while trying to save someone? (Like holding up something heavy so another being could get out of the way?)

Every time I look at that crack I picture a very young, unpracticed Leo in a sparring session with Raph, a katana, and a lucky escape. I'd like to know the truth - if for no other reason than to get away from that image!

As for age... Don feels older to me. Not sure how accurate these sources can be. The Nick description of Raph on the website and toy said he was the biggest of his brothers. Wrong. He is broader, but height-wise compared to Leo and Don he is very little.

[victory_angel]