OT Continuity errors?

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Did I now? I fail at HTML multi-quote editing.

Yep, you quoted my Scumbug and Anthrax post and mentioned Splinter being absent from the lair. You actually were referring to him training Yoku, not to Scumbug and Anthrax appearing on Night of the Rogues and Shredder and the Turtles acting like they had shown up on the show before.

[cammy85]

Originally Posted by Prowler

The foot clan didn't really exist after Shredder left Japan, I'm guessing. And if it did, who the hell was controlling it? I guess they could have introduced someone like Karai to explain this.

And there's also a continuity error regarding the founding of the foot clan. 2 different founders have been mentioned, one in "Blast From the Past" and the other in "Legend of Koji".

True. It was nice to see Splinter and his sensei getting along after the all too easy "throw the bum OUT!!" I made a fanfic about how they got Splinter to go back to Japan to lead a new and improved Foot Clan, post "Divide and Conquer". So yeah, once Saki/Shredder came to America, the Foot in Japan ceased to exist. Or they were all arrested and that's when Shredder decided on robots rather than humans, especially after meeting Krang and the Technodrome.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Actually, Jersey Red wasn't even the leader of R&B's gang- in both episodes, it was Lugnut, the stocky bald guy. He was the one who put April through the ropes and told her what her "tests" were. Jersey was just their "toughest member". And no wonder- she was a very "butch" gal! And probably the closest an 80's cartoon would ever get to an overtly lesbian character.

The one that sticks out in my mind is the gaffe of Mikey's clothes disappearing and reappearing several times in The Gang's All Here. When he first changes, he's wearing a shirt and shorts. When he turns back into a turtle for the first time, they disappear- then reappear again when he follows April to her apartment- and promptly disappear when he changes in front of her. It happens at least two more times, and when he is finally "cured", he is not wearing anything, even though he was wearing clothes BEFORE he ate the cookies!

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Cryomancer

European Vacation is full of these.

Yep, those episodes are a complete mess.

[pferreira]

So which Atlantis episode is considered more canon by fans, or at least which is considered the best one?

[87tmntfan]

Also the usagi yojimbo episodes.
At the end he stayed with the old man until Donatello can send him home. But then we never seen or heard from it again.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by 87tmntfan

Also the usagi yojimbo episodes.
At the end he stayed with the old man until Donatello can send him home. But then we never seen or heard from it again.

That's not a continuity error, but a character not having closure.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by pferreira

So which Atlantis episode is considered more canon by fans, or at least which is considered the best one?

Atlantis Awakes was much better, from what I remember.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by pferreira

So which Atlantis episode is considered more canon by fans, or at least which is considered the best one?

Merdude's episode obviously.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by pferreira

So which Atlantis episode is considered more canon by fans, or at least which is considered the best one?

My in-universe Marvel No Prize explanation is that we see a variety of possible timelines for the Fred Wolf Turtle-verse throughout the show's run. We see different possible futures in some episodes like "Once Upon a Time Machine" and "Enter: Krakus" (implied at least). We see various possible crossovers which surely affect the timeline in the case of Turtles Forever & the Nick toon's "Manhattan Project/Wormquake." And the whole-Archie verse's existence further supports the idea that the Fred Wolf toon could have (and perhaps did in one universe) taken a completely different direction after the pilot season episodes.

Thus, all the timeline continuities like the dual Atlantis problem could be explained as being from different streams of the FW timeline trajectory. At some point, some cosmic even happened that changed the course of the universe's history and created multiple timelines and new multiverses.

Eh... that's the best I've got anyway.

[sdp]

That's a cheap way of explaining things instead of actually trying to. The OT doesn't have that many inconsistencies and most can be easily solved with just a simple explanation.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by sdp

That's a cheap way of explaining things instead of actually trying to. The OT doesn't have that many inconsistencies and most can be easily solved with just a simple explanation.

[Sorry for the overkill on this one. I couldn't find a clip with just a single 'scuse.]

[Cryomancer]

Mutagen got spilled on the scripts and they mutated, obviously.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Cryomancer

Mutagen got spilled on the scripts and they mutated, obviously.

[Sumac]

Baxter's narrative seems to be missing a chapter regarding how his computer friend switched forms into computer/microchip or whatever.

Computer Friend's body was destroyed in the "Return of the Son of the Fly II" (sic?). At the end of the episode Baxter stuck between dimensions with talking chip - last remain of his Computer Friend.

At the end of The Big Blowout, the Technodrome landed on a metal orb but in the next episode, Plan 6 From Outer Space, it was on an asteroid. In that same episode, the turtles didn't recognize Bebop and Rocksteady in their human forms but they did in a previous episode Shredderville.

I've heard that there were at least three unproduced episodes between the end of the Season 3 and begining of the Season 4. Seems they've just skiped'em and tried haphazardly to connect ending of the past season with the begining of the new one.

At the end of Shredder Triumphant, Krang was in his android body but in the next episode, he was in his bubble walker instead. There's no way that should have changed since he didn't have the Technodrome.

This one have always bugged me.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Computer Friend's body was destroyed in the "Return of the Son of the Fly II" (sic?). At the end of the episode Baxter stuck between dimensions with talking chip - last remain of his Computer Friend.

Ah, that's right. I'm also trying to remember if it was ever explained how the AI went from being a talking spaceship computer in "Bye Bye Fly" to being an actual computer man with a face in that next appearance in "Son of Return of the Fly II."

[CyberCubed]

I always wonder how Slash got back to Earth again in, "Night of the Rogues" when in his Season 6 episode the Turtles take him back to his ship at the end of the episode.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I always wonder how Slash got back to Earth again in, "Night of the Rogues" when in his Season 6 episode the Turtles take him back to his ship at the end of the episode.

Never mind that. How the hell did Shredder know about Tempestra?

[cammy85]

I'm sure he's seen the reports of their victories over the other criminals/evil video game villainesses etc and knew how to reach said villains, like how Krang knew the addresses of Mad Dog McMutt and Pinky McFingers, despite not dealing with them before.

As for Slash, he was probably sent back to Dimension X in Season 6 and Shredder found him when recruiting Anthrax and Scumbug.

[CyberCubed]

I wish Scumbug got an episode in Season 5. They were introducing new mutants in Season 5 like Mutagen Man, Muckman, Mondo Gecko, etc that Scumbug getting an episode that season would have fit in.

Contrary to popular belief, the Turtles didn't know Antrax in the episode. It was only Scumbug who recognized them.