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Old 09-10-2014, 10:44 PM   #4841
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But he isn't stupid and he's grown a lot from the series' start. I feel season 2 has done Mikey very well, especially these past few eps.

If anything, at this point, he's probably underestimated because he's the youngest which isn't all that uncommon with some real-life siblings. Take Parasitica for example. IMO, Mikey's plan made sense. Leo didn't see it that way and pulled rank, a flaw of Leo's in general. It was more like my way or no way. A combination could've worked effectively, imo. All four trying to tie it down would've probably worked great, or even two of them...but plot convenience.
I kinda think Mikey had more serious moments in the first season...and liked him better then.
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:47 PM   #4842
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I kinda think Mikey had more serious moments in the first season...and liked him better then.
Well, we'll see what happens. Seeing his oldest brother getting the sh!t kicked out of him, and the whole gang being run out of the city, will maybe get him a bit more serious. It would be great if we got a scene when they are out in the country, punching holes in a barn wall.
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:53 PM   #4843
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Well, we'll see what happens. Seeing his oldest brother getting the sh!t kicked out of him, and the whole gang being run out of the city, will maybe get him a bit more serious. It would be great if we got a scene when they are out in the country, punching holes in a barn wall.
*_* I don't wanna get my hopes up...but I hope something close to that happens.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:17 AM   #4844
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They underestimated him moreso. The only "we straight up don't believe you" ep was Pizzaface and depending on one's interpretation, it may not even count. I still say it was a dream and Mikey was recovering from the beatdown and injuries he received from Tigerclaw. Oh and Squirrelnoids...I wouldn't say they didn't believe him, as Raph also agreed that it was bad to bring the stranger back.

With Shellacne, it was a guess and really, it wouldn't have logically made sense for Dogpound to take Baxter back to his old lab, right?

IMO, this just really shows how much they underestimate him, not that they didn't believe him.
That's a really good interpretation, actually.
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Old 09-11-2014, 01:39 AM   #4845
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Any one else get a Star Wars vibe from the Leatherhead message?
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Old 09-11-2014, 02:42 AM   #4846
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That's a really good interpretation, actually.
I know it's slightly off topic, but this is why I think Pizzaface was all a dream, the first being that it was supposed to have been originally aired after The Wrath of Tigerclaw.

The pizza Mikey made was gross. I couldn't see him making such a pizza with those inedible toppings, especially the rat, unless it was for ICK. lol
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Donnie. He mentioned that he'd been trying to contact April for a long time, who was obviously supposed to have met up with him and the others, but she wasn't answering her T-Phone. Tigerclaw was still around as well as the Kraang. She is still a target after all.

If he'd been trying to contact her for hours and didn't get an answer that entire time seems it would've alarmed him and the others. He said this openly with Leo and Raph in earshot range. Nothing.

Later on, after they order the pizza, he's sparring with Leo and Raph like it was nothing, so yeah, I found that really unusual as it's out of the ordinary for her not to answer, which was pointed out by Kirby himself in Wrath of Tigerclaw.
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The mutant pizzas. First time Mikey fought the pizza, slices and pieces of it going everywhere and he only had that one slice, trying to get the others to believe him.

Later, though the pizza is whole again, even though it shouldn't have been.

I thought it was just a mistake, but it happened again later when the other three and Splinter ate all of the pizza. The pizzas were whole again, which shouldn't have been the case because they'd already eaten them.
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Mikey unable to take a proper photo with his T-Phone. When they introduced it back in season 1, Mikey figured out how to play games on it with no trouble at all. How could he not figure out the camera?
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Mikey's nightmare statement.
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When interrogating that one pizza, he pulled off a pepperoni and ate it. He didn't become possessed or anything, but maybe it was because he didn't eat the cheese....

Nah, because later he did. He was trapped on the wall and ate his way through and then ate Pizzaface. All of the mutant pizzas were made from him and everyone who ate it or was attacked by it became pizza zombies. Why not Mikey?
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Leo and Raph were hit really hard. They should've been bruised in some way.
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April should have stains on her clothes.
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At the end, the Pizzaface slice talks...after Mikey goes back to sleep.

So yeah, this is why I interpreted the whole ep as a dream, especially after finding out it was aired out of order. I felt this way before I knew, especially because of Donnie not worrying over April.
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:11 AM   #4847
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I haven't seen that episode since it first aired, but I still remember most of it. And I remember not liking it because I felt it was far too kid-oriented (it's Ninja Turtles, I know - but this one went a bit far with it). Probably because Mikey, exponentially the most childish character, was the focal point.

But damn. Reading this makes me want to watch it again, because that theory makes sense. And it's Mikey's dream, so that would explain the slapstick antagonist. I'm pretty sure I'll interpret this episode that way every time I watch it now - makes it seem considerably darker, and even poses it as non-filler. Thanks for that insight.
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Old 09-11-2014, 09:19 AM   #4848
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Ooh, definitely can't wait for the next episode. Time to bring back Leatherhead!
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:46 AM   #4849
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Don't know if it has been mentioned, but what's with this eerie grey colour of Leatherhead? I noticed that in the trailer for the final and now in this new clip he looked pretty pale, too...
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:49 AM   #4850
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Maybe it has do with being expose to Kraang air for so long.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:10 PM   #4851
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Don't know if it has been mentioned, but what's with this eerie grey colour of Leatherhead? I noticed that in the trailer for the final and now in this new clip he looked pretty pale, too...
Keep in mind time works very differently in Dimension X... He's been there a very long time... long enough to show signs of aging... His stomach is also darker and he has new spots on his body.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:21 PM   #4852
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Someone posted a short summary of The Invasion Part 2 in Wikipedia, but I bet it's fake:

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After Michelangelo, Donatello, and Raphael are captured by the Kraang, they can only hope that Master Splinter is safe from Shredder. Meanwhile, Leonardo becomes part of the Foot Clan to make Shredder oblivious to his true plan.


That's completely different from the Leo one-shot that we knew of.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:28 PM   #4853
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Keep in mind time works very differently in Dimension X... He's been there a very long time... long enough to show signs of aging... His stomach is also darker and he has new spots on his body.
If they actually incorporated that, I'll be impressed.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:33 PM   #4854
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You're right, I totally forgot that time passes faster in Dimension X. So yeah, could definetely be a sign of him aging. But then again, does that mean that Leatherhead won't have much time left?

And if Mikey spends several months there would that make him oldest in a sense?
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:35 PM   #4855
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You're right, I totally forgot that time passes faster in Dimension X. So yeah, could definetely be a sign of him aging. But then again, does that mean that Leatherhead won't have much time left?
Don't worry... Leatherhead has a pretty long lifespan... He may have gotten older, but he's not that old.

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Old 09-11-2014, 12:42 PM   #4856
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Don't worry... Leatherhead has a pretty long lifespan... He may have gotten older, but he's not that old.
I actually have no clue how old alligators can get. Or if this even matters since he's a mutant.

As for the summary, I don't know what to think of that... I hope it's just a fake, I've read better predictions than that. And why should the Shredder accept Leo into the Foot clan? Doesn't really make sense... Except he knows Leo is bluffing but then again, why not kill him on the spot?
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Old 09-11-2014, 01:30 PM   #4857
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I actually have no clue how old alligators can get. Or if this even matters since he's a mutant.
While many peoples estimate 50 years, there is no average number recorded. Some sources state they can live hundreds of years in nature. Leatherhead is special, and therefore we cannot judge his lifespan based on normal alligators...
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Old 09-11-2014, 04:54 PM   #4858
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I don't buy that summary at all. Sounds totally fake and not something that I can see Leo doing at all. Shredder wants to kill the Turtles, so he's not going to let one get into the Foot Clan. I call BS on that.
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:18 PM   #4859
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None of that matches the preview

Than again, might not want to give too much away I guess.

I wouldn't be against the idea of him fake joining Shredder in order to defeat him. It's not like he'd be really joining, he's faking it so he doesn't notice his true intentions.
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:57 PM   #4860
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It's not completely out of the realms of possibility if they're looking to give a slight nod to the recent comics.

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