Irma's involvement

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Honestly, I hope they don't bring in a real Irma and just keep it her as the identity of that Kraang spy. It would be a real cop-out to a great plot twist.

I with you on this one. I would prefer if they create another female character. Maybe someone who isn't daughter of establish character. Hell Bring Mona Lisa! She can be a biology undergraduate student with a personality of Zoë Hange and that was writing a thesis on the taxonomic hierarchy of the mutant populace their overall effects on the ecosystem. She could meet the turtles one day and work them in getting the wild mutants and keeping them until Donnie can make a cure.

It's all there! Personality. Motivation. A REASON FOR HER EXISTENCE!

[Leofan26]

LOL Writers screwing with us, we've been punk'ed

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I adore Irma, give her back please Ciro. D:

The Kraang plot can exist before The Invasion where she was kidnapped and robo-cloned.

Wow, for once in a blue moon I agree with you! We need a poll man!

[shredder orokusaki]

If that kraang was iram from the beginign then when rat king caught her she would had fought and beat him. But she did nothing there. This was just a robot creatd by kraang nothing more.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

If that kraang was iram from the beginign then when rat king caught her she would had fought and beat him. But she did nothing there. This was just a robot creatd by kraang nothing more.

Yep, it's why some of us aren't buying it. It doesn't make sense. The Rats and Men episode is just too contradicting to Irma being a Kraang bot the whole time. Not to mention, she should have been very heavy for Casey to just stop her fall when she fainted.

[MaximeLoonatic]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Yep, it's why some of us aren't buying it. It doesn't make sense. The Rats and Men episode is just too contradicting to Irma being a Kraang bot the whole time. Not to mention, she should have been very heavy for Casey to just stop her fall when she fainted.

Aslo, doesn't their high school has a metal detector in the entrance? Robots are made of metal, right? So, knowing this and that it was winter in the episode Invasion, prolly it was already the holidays break and Irma was kidnaped by then.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

Aslo, doesn't their high school has a metal detector in the entrance? Robots are made of metal, right? So, knowing this and that it was winter in the episode Invasion, prolly it was already the holidays break and Irma was kidnaped by then.

I don't know if we could use that, because one of the Kraang bots was already in the school looking for April. Remember the teacher with the cannons shooting out of her elbows.

[evan2000]

In The Good, The Bad, and Casey Jones, Irma seems well aware of the Foot-bots attack that caused the ice hockey rink to close when she "interrogated" Casey Jones about the bruises on his face. That's before Of Rats and Men happened and Irma could already been impersonated by Kraang sub-prime, that might explain her knowledge of the attack, her spy/interrogator behavior, and how the Kraang knows Casey Jones' name when they impersonate cops to capture him during The Invasion.

I'll need to rewatch more episodes involving Irma to guess at which point she was swapped with Kraang sub-prime (that is, if there was a human Irma to begin with).

[evan2000]

Originally Posted by MaximeLoonatic

Aslo, doesn't their high school has a metal detector in the entrance? Robots are made of metal, right? So, knowing this and that it was winter in the episode Invasion, prolly it was already the holidays break and Irma was kidnaped by then.

Plus, in Rise of the Turtles, Donnie mentioned that the Kraang are using a metal alloy that he couldn't even recognize. That may be a Dimension-X material that will not be detected as metal by the detectors.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by evan2000

In The Good, The Bad, and Casey Jones, Irma seems well aware of the Foot-bots attack that caused the ice hockey rink to close when she "interrogated" Casey Jones about the bruises on his face. That's before Of Rats and Men happened and Irma could already been impersonated by Kraang sub-prime, that might explain her knowledge of the attack, her spy/interrogator behavior, and how the Kraang knows Casey Jones' name when they impersonate cops to capture him during The Invasion.

I'll need to rewatch more episodes involving Irma to guess at which point she was swapped with Kraang sub-prime (that is, if there was a human Irma to begin with).

I highly doubt it has anything to do with her being a robot, but the fact that something happened at the ice rink and it's a no brainer that Casey is a hockey fanatic, not to mention she doesn't think Casey is good enough for April, and then, the Kraang probably know alot about April, they have been following her for some time, so it would be easy for them to know who she hangs out with. Casey is just too good of a fighter for them to get a hold of to try and capture, and make a robot like him, not to mention that her father was a mutant for half the series, so that leaves him out, and obviously the Turtles are difficult to capture, and Karai was off limits since the Kraang were in cahoots with The Shredder, so the obvious choice to get after April would be to capture Irma and use a decoy. It makes sense that it would happen around Wrath of Tiger Claw, anything prior, it just doesn't jive and is too forced, making it difficult to buy that sort of scenario.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I highly doubt it has anything to do with her being a robot, but the fact that something happened at the ice rink and it's a no brainer that Casey is a hockey fanatic, not to mention she doesn't think Casey is good enough for April, and then, the Kraang probably know alot about April, they have been following her for some time, so it would be easy for them to know who she hangs out with. Casey is just too good of a fighter for them to get a hold of to try and capture, and make a robot like him, not to mention that her father was a mutant for half the series, so that leaves him out, and obviously the Turtles are difficult to capture, and Karai was off limits since the Kraang were in cahoots with The Shredder, so the obvious choice to get after April would be to capture Irma and use a decoy. It makes sense that it would happen around Wrath of Tiger Claw, anything prior, it just doesn't jive and is too forced, making it difficult to buy that sort of scenario.

But we don't see any signs of Irma before Episode 11-Mousers attack and that's just a cameo Easter egg. The Kraang don't start showing any interested in April O'Neil until Episode 15-Alien Agenda after she sends in her DNA sample into the World Genome Project.

In Rat's and Men they made a point of showing Irma as being a female version of Donnie. And the only suggestive moment is when she says "One day I'm going to find out where you guys keep running off to?" But even then that sounds like the jealous rantings of a dejected friend.

But before Wrath of Tiger Claw, Irma doesn't know Casey and April have secret friends. She knows they have something they are in on that she is not privy too. So when April and Casey abandon her to prevent her from being attacked by Karai and Tiger Claw she could have been grabbed by the Kraan or someone there.

Pizza face is where Irma starts asking about April's secret friends, and then she gets hit by a Moped and gets up with hardly a scratch or serious injury.

[MaximeLoonatic]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

But we don't see any signs of Irma before Episode 11-Mousers attack and that's just a cameo Easter egg. The Kraang don't start showing any interested in April O'Neil until Episode 15-Alien Agenda after she sends in her DNA sample into the World Genome Project.

In Rat's and Men they made a point of showing Irma as being a female version of Donnie. And the only suggestive moment is when she says "One day I'm going to find out where you guys keep running off to?" But even then that sounds like the jealous rantings of a dejected friend.

But before Wrath of Tiger Claw, Irma doesn't know Casey and April have secret friends. She knows they have something they are in on that she is not privy too. So when April and Casey abandon her to prevent her from being attacked by Karai and Tiger Claw she could have been grabbed by the Kraan or someone there.

Pizza face is where Irma starts asking about April's secret friends, and then she gets hit by a Moped and gets up with hardly a scratch or serious injury.

Great theory! I hope the writers can read this

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

But we don't see any signs of Irma before Episode 11-Mousers attack and that's just a cameo Easter egg. The Kraang don't start showing any interested in April O'Neil until Episode 15-Alien Agenda after she sends in her DNA sample into the World Genome Project.

In Rat's and Men they made a point of showing Irma as being a female version of Donnie. And the only suggestive moment is when she says "One day I'm going to find out where you guys keep running off to?" But even then that sounds like the jealous rantings of a dejected friend.

But before Wrath of Tiger Claw, Irma doesn't know Casey and April have secret friends. She knows they have something they are in on that she is not privy too. So when April and Casey abandon her to prevent her from being attacked by Karai and Tiger Claw she could have been grabbed by the Kraan or someone there.

Pizza face is where Irma starts asking about April's secret friends, and then she gets hit by a Moped and gets up with hardly a scratch or serious injury.

The Kraang don't start showing any interest in April? What? That was why they were kidnapping her the whole time! They weren't after her dad, they were after her!

[ssjup81]

Since I haven't, just thought I'd post what I said in the other thread..,,

Originally Posted by ssjup81

No, just read through, quite a few are.

Personally, when first watching, I was like, "I wonder where the real Irma is." I feel that she was probably replaced the time right before she started asking about April's secret friends.

Irma was around prior to "the invasion known as the invasion" in season 1. She tried calling April in that Mousers ep. They could've gotten her back then much easier and if Irma was around specifically to spy on April, seems she would've been around after that first TCRI ep when April sent in her DNA, not before...unless I'm mixing up the episode order.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

The Kraang don't start showing any interest in April? What? That was why they were kidnapping her the whole time! They weren't after her dad, they were after her!

It really feels that after the Alien Agenda episode they realized April was the one they were looking for.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

It really feels that after the Alien Agenda episode they realized April was the one they were looking for.

The show isn't exactly a well oiled machine like Heroes, 24 or even the 2k3 one, but I swore I thought there was an episode where Kirby told the Turtles that it was April they were after the whole time, not him.

[BabyTurtles]

man....now that Irma is gone I don't have a favorite female Nick tmnt character anymore........

plz let there be more girls next season...I don't think I can hang in there with....April...and snake Karai.....

please TMNT don't keep doing this...

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

man....now that Irma is gone I don't have a favorite female Nick tmnt character anymore........

plz let there be more girls next season...I don't think I can hang in there with....April...and snake Karai.....

please TMNT don't keep doing this...
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...s0rso1_500.gif

Why is it so important anyway? Why is it so important to have a favorite female character? What's wrong with having favorite characters? Who cares about gender?

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

The show isn't exactly a well oiled machine like Heroes, 24 or even the 2k3 one, but I swore I thought there was an episode where Kirby told the Turtles that it was April they were after the whole time, not him.

The only episodes we see Kirby before Alien Agenda is Rise of the Turtles parts 1 & 2 and the Gauntlet.

In Rise of the Turtles neither Kirby or April know who the Kraang are or why they wanted them.

In the Gauntlet Kirby sends her a video warning her that the Kraang were doing something terrible and he wanted her to get out of the city.

It is possible when April and her father were initially abducted only a small number of the Kraang knew April was the one they wanted. And it's only after Alien Agenda that the Kraang realized that April had the DNA they wanted.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

man....now that Irma is gone I don't have a favorite female Nick tmnt character anymore........

plz let there be more girls next season...I don't think I can hang in there with....April...and snake Karai.....

please TMNT don't keep doing this...
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...s0rso1_500.gif

lol Snake Karai.

Poor girl got left alone in the city. At least she still have her real father with her in the sewer.