Does Avatar: The Last Airbender get better?

[pharaohyami5000]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I kinda wished book air had more AIR XD

Nah, sadly. But we got

Spoiler:

FARTBENDING!!!

I'm on Spirit: ep. 6. The side characters took over the protagonist, and... honestly I haven't missed her that much. Except Tenzin. Sucks he wasn't given a scene in that episode.


I'll leave this with you all.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vid...th-dante-basco

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

What, were you expecting Aang to still be around by this next series?

When the Avatar dies, a new one is born. That's how the cycle works.

He could have lived to 100 and then died. I always assumed the Avatar had a longer lifespan than most humans. Is that not true?

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its hard to believe the main protagonist of the series was killed off so early. What kind of message is this for children? You save the world, unite 4 nations, refuse to kill an evil man, get a girl....and then you die at age 66.

I wonder if any kids who grew up with Avatar cried their eyes out when they heard Aang died. I guess the message is to not get frozen in icebergs.

Or perhaps: people die when it's their time to do so, and no amount of good doing or wrong doing will change that?

I don't know where you got this notion that Avatars live longer than other people. Kyoshi lived a long time, but so did Guru Pahtik and King Bumi.
Roku died relatively early by comparison. And we know next to nothing about Kuruk or Yang Chen.

[CyberCubed]

Aang was a hero and he dies. So much for greatness. Real empowering message to kids here.

Then again this is the same show that later on had all its underage female characters strip into midriff outfits constantly showing off their belly buttons. Simply scandalous!

[plastroncafe]

I don't know what world you live in, but in the one I happen to inhabit: good people die young all the time. And bad people have been known to live to ripe old ages as well.

With this new found Feminism of yours, I'm surprised you're not equally as upset at the amount of male nudity that the show highlights.

While Katara is shown with her belly exposed, half of Aang's entire chest is equally exposed.

What kind of expectation is that sending to the mostly, preferred, male audience?
WHY WON'T YOU THINK OF THE PRE-PUBESCENT BOYS, CYBER?!

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Zuko and Toph are alive. Suki is dead and whatever friends they picked up later on died as well!

Wait was Toph Confirmed to be alive???? Also did they mention Suki's death????

[plastroncafe]

Suki hasn't been mentioned yet, but Toph has several times.
Check out Book Three.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I don't know what world you live in, but in the one I happen to inhabit: good people die young all the time. And bad people have been known to live to ripe old ages as well.

Avatar ended like a fairy tail ending. Aang saved the world and defeated the bad guy and got the girl. The show literally closes on Aang and Katara kissing as a, "happily ever after" vibe.

Then you watch Korra and, "LOL, everyone is dead!" and, "Aang died at 66 too bad!" and "Katara is now an old lady and her brother is gone too!"

Way to be a mood killer. I realize Korra didn't start right after Avatar ended so there was a gap in real life between the two shows. But for someone like me who just finished Avatar for the first time and went directly to Korra, it was like going from a happy fairy tail ending to a dog eats dog world where your accomplishments as a hero mean nothing.

[Allio]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

He could have lived to 100 and then died. I always assumed the Avatar had a longer lifespan than most humans. Is that not true?

I think it all depends, I know Kyoshi lived to be in her 200's

[CyberCubed]

Episode 5 sucked. A whole episode of pro-bending and Korra being obnoxious and kissing the other brother? Is it just me or was Korra unlikeable in this episode?

Also Asami is a really bland character so far, does she ever get any better? I have to say I'm not really enjoying this cast of characters much.

This pro-bending stuff is a snoozefest.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Suki hasn't been mentioned yet, but Toph has several times.
Check out Book Three.

But I don't remember them confirming if Toph was dead or alive. I remember them showing her in flashbacks but thats about it.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Way to be a mood killer. I realize Korra didn't start right after Avatar ended so there was a gap in real life between the two shows. But for someone like me who just finished Avatar for the first time and went directly to Korra, it was like going from a happy fairy tail ending to a dog eats dog world where your accomplishments as a hero mean nothing.

Gosh...it's almost like that's how things work in real life.

Originally Posted by Redeemer

But I don't remember them confirming if Toph was dead or alive. I remember them showing her in flashbacks but thats about it.

They didn't confirm her dead, so I'm assuming she's still alive.
No matter how badly things went between Su and Lin, I highly doubt the two of them would have not seen each other in 30 years if their mother had died in that timeframe.

[CyberCubed]

So I watched up to episode 8, is it just me or is Korra basically a knock-off of X-men?

Benders = mutants
Non benders = humans

Amod = Magneto
Tenzin = Prof. Xavier
Korra = Mix of Wolverine and Cyclops

Now we have the cops rounding up normal citizens as equalists and Amod destroying non-benders. Korra has a temper and makes lots of mistakes, but she is right on occasion.

Also is blood bending a dues ex machina? Seems like anyone who can blood bend is the most powerful bender and can win any battle. They barely used this in Avatar so it didn't matter much, but I'm guessing it'll be used much more in this show.

[plastroncafe]

It's not a bad correlation, just a short-sighted one. This season draws heavily from the Communist Revolution, complete with propaganda posters.

Also, it's Amon.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So I watched up to episode 8, is it just me or is Korra basically a knock-off of X-men?

Benders = mutants
Non benders = humans

Amod = Magneto
Tenzin = Prof. Xavier
Korra = Mix of Wolverine and Cyclops

Now we have the cops rounding up normal citizens as equalists and Amod destroying non-benders. Korra has a temper and makes lots of mistakes, but she is right on occasion.

Also is blood bending a dues ex machina? Seems like anyone who can blood bend is the most powerful bender and can win any battle. They barely used this in Avatar so it didn't matter much, but I'm guessing it'll be used much more in this show.

X-men is mimicking silver rights issue and prejudice, hating and fearing people just by there look.

Plastoncafe is right Korra season 1 mimics more of Nazi or communist revolution. Nazi party blamed apposing groups or a race of people for all the problems. Hints non-benders blaming the benders.

[CyberCubed]

Anyone notice Korra always does that little smirk with her mouth? Is that a quirk of hers? I've noticed that in a few episodes. She also always talks back to her elders or people in charge.

I realize this is all supposed to be feminism and to show Korra is a female who is, "large and in charge" because god forbid this series have a submissive female character, but it actually gets a bit bothersome especially when she was lashing out at Tenzin.

Its almost like anti-feminism. They try to make female characters look as strong, confident and powerful as possible but then they go too far and make them arrogant, childish and unlikeable. Not saying Korra is like that because she isn't, but there are a few scenes that made me raise an eyebrow.

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Anyone notice Korra always does that little smirk with her mouth? Is that a quirk of hers? I've noticed that in a few episodes. She also always talks back to her elders or people in charge.

I realize this is all supposed to be feminism and to show Korra is a female who is, "large and in charge" because god forbid this series have a submissive female character, but it actually gets a bit bothersome especially when she was lashing out at Tenzin.

Its almost like anti-feminism. They try to make female characters look as strong, confident and powerful as possible but then they go too far and make them arrogant, childish and unlikeable. Not saying Korra is like that because she isn't, but there are a few scenes that made me raise an eyebrow.

Yeah, I've heard that everyone with feminist intentions - me included - are completely flawless people :p

And yet you don't mention the flaws of the male characters.

But your feminist thinking is basically at the level mine was when I started calling myself a feminist many many years ago, so it could be a step in the right direction if you keep evolving your thinking. Which seems unlikely given your personality, but still...

[CyberCubed]

Well in today's politically correct society I think writers are afraid to write females as anything other than strong, independent characters.

Look at 80's April in the original TMNT cartoon for example. She was a damsel in distress in almost every episode and constantly got captured waiting for the Turtles to save her. Since the show was written in the 80's nobody cared about this back then, but do you think that would have been accepted if the show was written now? Of course not, look at how different 4kids and Nick's April were handled.

Nowadays writers are bent over backwards by angry feminists, they have to write females as strong, competent, take-no-crap kind of characters. If they portray them as weak or girly or damsel in distress' they have angry protesters at their e-mail doorsteps.

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well in today's politically correct society I think writers are afraid to write females as anything other than strong, independent characters.

Look at 80's April in the original TMNT cartoon for example. She was a damsel in distress in almost every episode and constantly got captured waiting for the Turtles to save her. Since the show was written in the 80's nobody cared about this back then, but do you think that would have been accepted if the show was written now? Of course not, look at how different 4kids and Nick's April were handled.

Nowadays writers are bent over backwards by angry feminists, they have to write females as strong, competent, take-no-crap kind of characters. If they portray them as weak or girly or damsel in distress' they have angry protesters at their e-mail doorsteps.

So... Wait, your point is?

Also, writers definitely aren't afraid to write ****** female characters because they are everywhere. But good writers tend to prefer writing more interesting characters (male and female) for a reason... :p

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well in today's politically correct society I think writers are afraid to write females as anything other than strong, independent characters.

It's cute how you highlight your own ingrained sexism here.

Look at 80's April in the original TMNT cartoon for example. She was a damsel in distress in almost every episode and constantly got captured waiting for the Turtles to save her. Since the show was written in the 80's nobody cared about this back then, but do you think that would have been accepted if the show was written now? Of course not, look at how different 4kids and Nick's April were handled.

Weren't you just in another thread championing April as more than a mere Damsel in Distress?

Also...people cared back in the 80s. I know, because I was one of them.

Nowadays writers are bent over backwards by angry feminists, they have to write females as strong, competent, take-no-crap kind of characters. If they portray them as weak or girly or damsel in distress' they have angry protesters at their e-mail doorsteps.

They might feel less "bent over backwards" if they added more female characters to their stories, rather than just limiting themselves to The Good Girl/The Bad Girl. That's the problem with token characters of any kind: they make it really easy for people to call your writing lazy and insulting.

Look at Korra and Avatar:
All kinds of female characters.

Girly ones, strong ones, pretty ones, angry ones.
You say there aren't submissive female characters, but clearly you're not paying attention to Pema, Tenzin's Wife.

I maintain that if you have trouble writing female characters, it's not that they're hard to write...it's that you're crap at your job.

And if Ciro had accepted my invitation to a follow up interview, I'd have told him the same thing.