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Old 09-26-2014, 10:08 PM   #1
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Marvel reaches settlement with Jack Kirby's family

I figured this should be of interest considering how big an influence Jack was on Kevin and Peter.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...tlement-735921

While this is good news, it doesn't absolve Marvel of all their sins, but hopefully this will be a solid step forward for creators' rights.

Now, if only Warners can work things out with the Sigels and Shusters.
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Old 09-27-2014, 12:26 PM   #2
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It's sad that so few of those great comic artists of the 20th century ever got their full due financially speaking.

At the same time, I'd hate to see great characters forever tied up in legal tape due to creator/publisher feuds... or even the creators' families.

That whole thing with Ken Penders and the Archie Sonic characters was just weird, sad, and frustrating. But I suppose it's ultimately Archie's fault for not keeping proper paperwork contracts for the creative talent they employed. It's a shame that talented storytellers like Ian Flyn can no longer used characters that Penders introduced. I mean, really, like ANYBODY would want to read Penders' current stuff. Yikes.
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Old 09-27-2014, 12:44 PM   #3
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I mean, really, like ANYBODY would want to read Penders' current stuff. Yikes.
I think I threw up in my mouth a little while looking at that. Yikes indeed.

But it's nice to see a settlement was reached. Jack Kirby deserves to be credited for all the work he's done for Marvel. Especially after the shoddy way they treated him.
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Looks like Marvel caved and is gonna be paying the Kirby estate.

I wonder if the same thing happened with DC? Jack Kirby worked on some DC Comics prior to Marvel.
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Old 09-27-2014, 08:49 PM   #5
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It's sad that so few of those great comic artists of the 20th century ever got their full due financially speaking.

At the same time, I'd hate to see great characters forever tied up in legal tape due to creator/publisher feuds... or even the creators' families.

That whole thing with Ken Penders and the Archie Sonic characters was just weird, sad, and frustrating. But I suppose it's ultimately Archie's fault for not keeping proper paperwork contracts for the creative talent they employed. It's a shame that talented storytellers like Ian Flyn can no longer used characters that Penders introduced. I mean, really, like ANYBODY would want to read Penders' current stuff. Yikes.
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It's sad that so few of those great comic artists of the 20th century ever got their full due financially speaking.

At the same time, I'd hate to see great characters forever tied up in legal tape due to creator/publisher feuds... or even the creators' families.

That whole thing with Ken Penders and the Archie Sonic characters was just weird, sad, and frustrating. But I suppose it's ultimately Archie's fault for not keeping proper paperwork contracts for the creative talent they employed. It's a shame that talented storytellers like Ian Flyn can no longer used characters that Penders introduced. I mean, really, like ANYBODY would want to read Penders' current stuff. Yikes.
That looks even less of the Sonic Universe that he used to do work for.
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Old 09-28-2014, 11:12 AM   #8
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Looks like Marvel caved and is gonna be paying the Kirby estate.

I wonder if the same thing happened with DC? Jack Kirby worked on some DC Comics prior to Marvel.
I don't think so.
Jack Kirby did not create any characters for DC to my knowledge. The only character I heard he contributed or maybe created was Darksied.
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Old 09-28-2014, 01:22 PM   #9
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I don't think so.
Jack Kirby did not create any characters for DC to my knowledge. The only character I heard he contributed or maybe created was Darksied.
New Gods, aka Jack Kirby's Fourth World. So yeah, all of that.
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The whole case have been very interesting, but nothing of this will sadly benefit Jack himself.

The big lesson, read your work contract.
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Old 09-28-2014, 03:44 PM   #11
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It's sad that so few of those great comic artists of the 20th century ever got their full due financially speaking.

At the same time, I'd hate to see great characters forever tied up in legal tape due to creator/publisher feuds... or even the creators' families.

That whole thing with Ken Penders and the Archie Sonic characters was just weird, sad, and frustrating. But I suppose it's ultimately Archie's fault for not keeping proper paperwork contracts for the creative talent they employed. It's a shame that talented storytellers like Ian Flyn can no longer used characters that Penders introduced. I mean, really, like ANYBODY would want to read Penders' current stuff. Yikes.
Penders is weird and dumb for thinking he had exclusive creation rights for "Knuckles, but with a hat" and "Knuckles, but a girl" and so on. http://imgur.com/vCvDxuj etc
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Old 09-28-2014, 04:14 PM   #12
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Penders is weird and dumb for thinking he had exclusive creation rights for "Knuckles, but with a hat" and "Knuckles, but a girl" and so on. http://imgur.com/vCvDxuj etc
No, you don't UNDERSTAND, that is Ken Penders' ORIGINAL CHARACTER. Do NOT steal!
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