Are Leo and Donnie more in tune to their human side than Mikey and Raph? - Page 3

*snake* · 10-07-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

Or hair. There something about seeing reptiles with hair that makes me angry and it always the long flowing mary sue hair. Ugh.

I think Mona Lisa should be bald. She's a reptile, not a mammel

*ssjup81* · 10-07-2014, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by snake

I think Mona Lisa should be bald. She's a reptile, not a mammel

But she started off as one, so she kept her hair. But I'm reaching. lol

*Luckyday* · 10-07-2014, 09:26 AM

There some really good fan art of Mona Lisa on Tumblr.

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She seem younger then I would have liked. My idea for Mona Lisa was to be a college student that study biology and was trying study mutants for her thesis but I would like this design of her to be use as a concept. She should have markings and stripes to get some of that authentic reptile look.

*IndigoErth* · 10-07-2014, 12:23 PM

If they start out human...eh... might be able to get away with it, though otherwise agree on leaving off the typical misplaced human female gender indicators that are too often included on characters where it shouldn't be.

I haven't really seen too much of the Kung Fu Panda stuff, but I appreciate that it's one of the few shows/movies to actually go that way and in that case let Tigress be a tiger, not a tiger shaped like a human.

Edit: Well technically I think Mona Lisa is an amphibian? So salamander markings maybe, there's some pretty ones they could take inspiration from.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-07-2014, 04:45 PM

Agree with you about the hair, Luckyday. I don't want to see that either. And Splinter was human first, but he didn't keep his hair.

travelingcat · 10-07-2014, 07:24 PM

Karai didn't keep her hair when she mutated to a snake, so there's hope.

Gunpowder · 10-07-2014, 07:51 PM

Interesting. Now that I think about it, Raph and Mikey do share a partcularly close bond (whenever Raph has a semi-sentimental "brothers come first" moment, it almost always is directed at Mikey). So their mutual connection with animals makes sense.

Also want to point out the moment in the season 3 premier episode when the chickens attack Mikey for not having enough food. So much for that "connection."

*IndigoErth* · 10-07-2014, 08:05 PM

Birds... never trust 'em. They might be harmless deep down but really, those chickens, Malachi, that pigeon guy before they figured out he was likewise harmless...

*Warhorse* · 10-07-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Birds... never trust 'em. They might be harmless deep down but really, those chickens, Malachi, that pigeon guy before they figured out he was likewise harmless...

NO JOKE!

Gunpowder · 10-07-2014, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Birds... never trust 'em. They might be harmless deep down but really, those chickens, Malachi, that pigeon guy before they figured out he was likewise harmless...

Pete! Loved that guy. I hope they bring him back. (Pretty sure he was in "Metalhead Rewired" for a split second, so I think it's a possibility.)

*Shiro Kame* · 10-07-2014, 10:17 PM

Chickens are the embodiment of evil...

*ssjup81* · 10-07-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiro Kame

Chickens are the embodiment of evil...

And yet so tasty...

So, I'm really the only one who thought Legend of Zelda with the way the chickens attacked him? lol

*IndigoErth* · 10-07-2014, 10:32 PM

lol The more evil the animal the more delicious it is. Or so it should be. (Shredder BBQ...)

Gunpowder · 10-07-2014, 10:37 PM

I can't help but think of Deadman Wonderland (if anyone's seen that), with dudes dressed as chickens blowing people's brains out.

*Warhorse* · 10-07-2014, 10:38 PM

Well, I don't know if it means anything, but I've caught Leo call out to his team on more than one occasion "come on people, lets get going!" So, I guess he sees himself and his brothers as people?

*IndigoErth* · 10-07-2014, 10:45 PM

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Well, I don't know if it means anything, but I've caught Leo call out to his team on more than one occasion "come on people, lets get going!" So, I guess he sees himself and his brothers as people?

Yeah, I think one of those occasions is when April goes out with them and is trying to keep up? Always took note of that one in particular for some reason.

Good thing about the word "people" I guess, don't necessarily have to be human for it to apply.

(Think it's been done a bit historically as well in old tales, calling species or types of species that, i.e. "the bird people.")

~~Davetello~~ · 10-07-2014, 10:45 PM

Speaking broadly, Leo and Donnie are often more thoughtful and intelligent than Mikey and Raph, so it's natural that they will develop more of an affinity with other people. Although Mikey has his happy-go-lucky charm, but I feel that in this show he's depicted as too innocent/youthful to fully benefit from that in terms of human interaction.

Raph is often portrayed as a misanthrope/bully/general pr!ck. He isn't really any of these things, as we see in his moments of vulnerability, but it does put others off him. Even his relationship with Casey doesn't stand out in Nick to me really - the bond was far stronger in Mirage and 2k3, but perhaps that's because Casey is so young in Nick.

Megchan · 10-07-2014, 10:48 PM

I always imagined that the guys wouldn't be able to distinguish a male turtle from a female turtle by sight alone. Perhaps her body frame would be slightly smaller, but they'd chalk it up to her/him having a growth deficiency and then completely freak out after she states she's a she not a he.

*IndigoErth* · 10-07-2014, 10:50 PM

Actually, speaking of Mikey, I think it's in the episode that Donnie finally figures out the retromutagen and Mikey grabs it wondering what he'd look like if he used it and turned back to human... and was reminded that he never was.

I feel for these poor kids, they must be so confused... lol

~~Davetello~~ · 10-07-2014, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Actually, speaking of Mikey, I think it's in the episode that Donnie finally figures out the retromutagen and Mikey grabs it wondering what he'd look like if he used it and turned back to human... and was reminded that he never was.

I feel for these poor kids, they must be so confused... lol

Aw. That's depressing.

I love all of them like brothers.

10-07-2014, 12:23 PM	#44
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	If they start out human...eh... might be able to get away with it, though otherwise agree on leaving off the typical misplaced human female gender indicators that are too often included on characters where it shouldn't be. I haven't really seen too much of the Kung Fu Panda stuff, but I appreciate that it's one of the few shows/movies to actually go that way and in that case let Tigress be a tiger, not a tiger shaped like a human. Edit: Well technically I think Mona Lisa is an amphibian? So salamander markings maybe, there's some pretty ones they could take inspiration from. Last edited by IndigoErth; 10-07-2014 at 12:28 PM.

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BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Agree with you about the hair, Luckyday. I don't want to see that either. And Splinter was human first, but he didn't keep his hair. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

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travelingcat Thug Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: NC Posts: 64	Karai didn't keep her hair when she mutated to a snake, so there's hope. __________________

10-07-2014, 07:51 PM	#47
Gunpowder Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 715	Interesting. Now that I think about it, Raph and Mikey do share a partcularly close bond (whenever Raph has a semi-sentimental "brothers come first" moment, it almost always is directed at Mikey). So their mutual connection with animals makes sense. Also want to point out the moment in the season 3 premier episode when the chickens attack Mikey for not having enough food. So much for that "connection." __________________ Jason Biggs was the best Leonardo.

10-07-2014, 10:37 PM	#54
Gunpowder Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 715	I can't help but think of Deadman Wonderland (if anyone's seen that), with dudes dressed as chickens blowing people's brains out. __________________ Jason Biggs was the best Leonardo.

10-07-2014, 08:05 PM	#48
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	Birds... never trust 'em. They might be harmless deep down but really, those chickens, Malachi, that pigeon guy before they figured out he was likewise harmless...

10-07-2014, 10:17 PM	#51
Shiro Kame Foot Elite Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 3,332	Chickens are the embodiment of evil...

10-07-2014, 10:32 PM	#53
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	lol The more evil the animal the more delicious it is. Or so it should be. (Shredder BBQ...)

10-07-2014, 10:38 PM	#55
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	Well, I don't know if it means anything, but I've caught Leo call out to his team on more than one occasion "come on people, lets get going!" So, I guess he sees himself and his brothers as people?

10-07-2014, 10:45 PM	#57
~~Davetello~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greater Glasgow, Scotland, The Ununited Kingdom Posts: 1,712	Speaking broadly, Leo and Donnie are often more thoughtful and intelligent than Mikey and Raph, so it's natural that they will develop more of an affinity with other people. Although Mikey has his happy-go-lucky charm, but I feel that in this show he's depicted as too innocent/youthful to fully benefit from that in terms of human interaction. Raph is often portrayed as a misanthrope/bully/general pr!ck. He isn't really any of these things, as we see in his moments of vulnerability, but it does put others off him. Even his relationship with Casey doesn't stand out in Nick to me really - the bond was far stronger in Mirage and 2k3, but perhaps that's because Casey is so young in Nick.

10-07-2014, 10:48 PM	#58
Megchan Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: California Posts: 122	I always imagined that the guys wouldn't be able to distinguish a male turtle from a female turtle by sight alone. Perhaps her body frame would be slightly smaller, but they'd chalk it up to her/him having a growth deficiency and then completely freak out after she states she's a she not a he. __________________ Image by RamyB of TeeTurtle

10-07-2014, 10:50 PM	#59
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	Actually, speaking of Mikey, I think it's in the episode that Donnie finally figures out the retromutagen and Mikey grabs it wondering what he'd look like if he used it and turned back to human... and was reminded that he never was. I feel for these poor kids, they must be so confused... lol