toy story 4 confirmed

[turtlefanforever]

just stop already. No Andy, I don't wanna see it. Coming 2017

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I kinda feel the same. I mean, each movie follows a certain toy related incident that makes up the plot.

Number 1 was a toy getten replaced
Number 2 was a toy getting sent off somewhere
Number 3 was toys getting donated

What else is there left to do?

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

I kinda feel the same. I mean, each movie follows a certain toy related incident that makes up the plot.

Number 1 was a toy getten replaced
Number 2 was a toy getting sent off somewhere
Number 3 was toys getting donated

What else is there left to do?

toys getting returned? that's the only way I could get on board with it really.

[snake]

Should be cool. Pixar never really had a bad movie except cars 2.

[Slade]

Don't care what anybody says, I love Toy Story.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

toys getting returned? that's the only way I could get on board with it really.

Or the Toys being sent to a new Kid?

[TurtleTitan97]

Yeahhhhh.....not sure how I feel about this. I love Toy Story as much as the next guy, but I thought the third film was the perfect way to end the story.

We'll see.

[Slade]

Well they ate still having adventures with Bonnie. Toy Story of Terror, whatever the Christmas one is and I think there was another.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by snake

Should be cool. Pixar never really had a bad movie except cars 2.

Simply untrue.

[NinjaPug]

Ugh. I like all 3 Toy Story movies and will probably like this one but I thought it ended in a great place. I wish they would've stuck to only doing shorts and 30 minute specials for Woody and crew.

At least Pixar has two original films coming in 2015.

[Leo656]

My wife loves Toy Story so we'll inevitably see it, but even she almost agrees with the whole "What's Left?" part of it.

It feels like it's gonna be just like Jurassic Park III: "Hey, let's do another one!" Which doesn't exactly mean "bad", just... Why? If it's literally going to be all the same stuff as the ones before, but with Katy Perry doing a voice cameo (mark my words, somehow Katy Perry or someone of her ilk will be in this) and some flashier set-pieces... why bother?

I just hate it when stuff like Toy Story or Shrek starts off clever and imaginative and by the end of it it's just "Let's do another one!" ((Shrug))

[BabyTurtles]

.....I liked how it ended in Toy Story 3......Why can't stuff just end nicely nowadays?

[Wildcat]

Typical "stop it can never be good again" cynicism in here I see...and for Toy Story?

Haven't seen the shorts and didn't really like that Andy gave away his toys but should be interesting.

Really who seriously thought they'd never make another one? Its Pixar's poster child.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I just hate it when stuff like Toy Story or Shrek starts off clever and imaginative and by the end of it it's just "Let's do another one!" ((Shrug))

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

Typical "stop it can never be good again" cynicism in here I see...and for Toy Story?

Haven't seen the shorts and didn't really like that Andy gave away his toys but should be interesting.

Really who seriously thought they'd never make another one? Its Pixar's poster child.

"They Could" and "They Should" are very different things.

Being "cynical" is a very important character trait. It means people dissect and analyze things from more than a surface view before deciding if they like it or not. It's actually a pretty important part of making real-life decisions. Granted, in analyzing simple entertainment, nothing is a big deal, but it's still good to know how to deconstruct things. Things aren't Great by default simply because they exist.

I doubt TS4 will be "bad" as in poorly-made, but for sh*t's sake, it's literally JUST being made because the guys making it want bigger swimming pools. That's a horrible reason to make any movie, especially one that's already been wrapped up pretty tight. They're out of story! Anything they do will quite literally be warmed-over stuff from the other ones. Why couldn't someone, I'unno, just watch those? Whether they do One More or Ten More, it's only going to be as good as, "Hey, it's Woody and the gang! Again!" I like the characters too, but yeesh, they've thoroughly exhausted the conceit. How are they gonna make it Fresh or Different? What CAN they do? "Kill" Woody off and have a new toy come into the group? Well, then Buzz is now Woody and you're right back where to telling the story of the first movie over again, aren't you? They touched on all the themes they wanted to, and they did it really well. They Did It. It didn't feel like there was anything left to be said. The end of Part 3 felt like The Ending It Deserved.

Story First, for me, and I think once the "proper" story's over it's time to move on. Having more adventures just to show off the characters seems hollow. THAT, to me, is far more "cynical" than anyone questioning the value of doing another movie. "Let's do another one because we're all gonna get rich", to me, is cynical. "You had three good movies in a row, don't press your luck" isn't cynical at all, it's logical.

[chrisdude]

Doesn't eevryone love Toy Story 3 much as the first two? How is it this movie is too many? Yeah, the third one had a satisfying conclusion. But so did the second, and the first. I see no reason to think they can't go four for four. They have a new setting and everything.

[Leo656]

Law of averages. They have three Really Good movies back-to-back and that's already almost-impossible. The more they make, the more likely that sooner or later, they'll break it. That's why in gambling you're supposed to quit while you're ahead. Pixar is WAY ahead as far as Toy Story goes. Why even take a chance on going from "Those were three awesome movies!" to "Those were three awesome movies... and that other one"?

I'm just saying, Shrek was a golden franchise once upon a time, too, and look how fast they broke that one by simply making Too Much Shrek. Now the amount of people who honestly care if they ever do another Shrek movie is a negative integer.

The very fact that they made three movies in a row that were all much higher than average quality means they shouldn't push too hard and rely on brand loyalty to keep it afloat, or sooner rather than later, the brand might not be worth two cents.

Let them trot the originals out in theaters in 3D every 5 years or so as an "Event"; they'll make the exact same amount of money and piss off exactly zero people that way. They've already done a couple made-for-TV deals with the franchise that people didn't exactly love. It's becoming Just Another Franchise and for that reason they need to quit while they're ahead before people start saying, "Oh, yeah, I remember when Toy Story movies were good."

Which is what will happen eventually if they keep making new ones, whether people want to admit that or not.

[Wildcat]

@Leo656,

Being cynical towards Hollywood has become a popular trend. Even the most anticipated movies have at least one poster somewhere saying the same things, giving the same reasons for why it can't be good or shouldn't be made.

I can see it with Terminator but even that wasn't just gona end forever. Stories can seem done and probably are for the most part in some series...but it doesn't mean any sequel there after is just a cheap banking.

The same can be said from an optimistic view...what could they do next? I'm excited to see what they came up with this time.

Its all just very pretentious to me. I actually read a comment recently on another movie board. No offense to you but it rang so true to me...movies were not ruined, movie goers just became judgemental @holes.

[Leo656]

I disagree, movies have by and large become better on a technical level while suffering on a writing, acting, and substance level. People have gotten much better at making things shiny and fast and knowing exactly how to frame things in the most dramatic angles possible, but the rest of what goes into a movie is being increasingly pushed aside. That's not imaginary.

And these kids and their internet can call it a "cynical trend" if they want to; I'm a good 5 years older than most of 'em, so if I wanna pick something apart and see if they got jack under the hood, I will. I been doing it longer than they have and actually have opinions that go deeper than "This sucked/ruled".

Anyways, I think people are confusing the issues. It's less about whether or not another TS can or will be any good (could go either way); my point is, they're not going to be Great forever and it's kind of careless to keep making movies just because they Can. My point isn't, "It's going to be bad by default," that's not necessarily true. What's undeniably true is, "They can easily stop now, with three A+ movies everyone loves, an unheard-of film-franchise batting average of 1.00, and exploit those three movies forever without hurting a single thing or taking any risks whatsoever." Yes, even making the third one was a risk. Yes, they came out on top with that one. Which is all the more reason Not To Press Their Luck.

I mean, it's whatever. I'll see Part 4 and I'm sure even if it's a weak Toy Story movie it'll still be better than most kids movies, because that's what they do. Mark my words, though; no matter how good part 4 is, by part 8, nobody is ever going to want to see or hear the words "Toy Story" again. And everyone is going to say, "they should have quit while they were ahead". I only know this because That's What Always Happens and just once, I'd like to see it NOT happen, is all.

I'm serious. NO film series is ALL good movies, except that one, that I can recall. You ALWAYS end up talking about "Those good ones... and those other ones." What they have with the franchise is something nobody else has ever managed to pull off, probably won't ever again, and it seems silly to push it. You can keep it perfect and pristine forever; if you even touch it, you might scratch it. Why do it?

[Candy Kappa]

I wonder how long they are gonna make me cry this time around...