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Shouldn't he be spending more time with people and try to understand them because he needs to lead them? Being alone in the forest, probably learning survival skills but he won't actually learn anything about leadership.
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Yeah I've assumed it was more about the training than leadership. Though increased and enhanced skills a different environment might bring might help strengthen him in terms of tactics and therefor might translate into a stronger leader? But that's based on seeing that movie only twice at this point, so just my two cents.
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Leo's a tool for most of the film anyway.
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Actually, I believe the training was meant to improve his self-reliance, resilience, and strength, as well as teach him endurance and resourcefulness. The environment and isolation meant that he'd have to be completely self-sufficient, which would make him more capable of dealing with unexpected situations. Thus, improving his ability to lead.
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I'll just leave this here...
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Training in seclusion can make him reach enlightenment?... Or something? I don't know, I'm sure the screen writer thought people would understand but failed to convey it properly.
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They should have done a better job of explaining it but the overall idea was that he wasn't even supposed to be gone that long. Leo even tells April that the reason he was gone that long is because he got caught up in his own world and when he realized it he was ashamed to come back to Splinter a failure. That's also why I suspect Splinter was rip **** after he realized the turtles went against his orders. I'd be pissed off too if I sent him to train and he was gone for so long and learned nothing (one of my favorite moments is that when Splinter is yelling at Leo you can see Raph smiling lol ).
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Every time I watch this film I wonder if the Leonardo story line is the result of extremely good, nuanced writing, with subtext and character parallels, a la the Cain and Abel archetype, or really, really bad writing, where no-one noticed that small details when put together made the Leonardo character seem like a giant, hypocritical, petulant arse who didn't learn a thing even after all that pre-plot training and 90 minute plot time.
I don't think I'll ever know. Just one of the many paradoxes about this film. |
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If I recall correctly they had one for each Turtle and April. I have them I just haven't looked at them in a while. They're in storage, if I recall. Pretty much just showed a little of what everyone had been doing in the "recent past" before the movie's events.
Other than setting up the Raphael/Nightwatcher story, I don't recall them being very necessary. I remember feeling like they a textbook example of "Let's squeeze a few bucks out of the super-fans who buy everything". I don't think they expanded on anything from the movie much at all. I could be wrong, though, it's been a couple years since I read 'em. |
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There's a whole variety of very real reasons why sending him to a South American jungle could make Leonardo a better leader (or, more importantly, a stronger "man")... but I feel like the reality is something more akin to, "Eh, sounds cool!"
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The issue was Raph as the Nightcrawler made himself more and more known to the public. He deliberately walked around fully seen by people.
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I know every time I visited the jungle I came back a better follower, not leader.. I thought I was a rebellious leader until my parents put me out and then I realized just how much I wanted to follow their rules after 2 nights in that damn jungle.. but that's just me. Leo is his own individual.
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Beats me.
All I can think of is it giving a reason for Raph to get pissyy at Leo. Last edited by DarkLightDragon; 11-19-2014 at 06:55 AM. |
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...Did you just self-censor the word "pissy"? I don't even.
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Well excuse me then.
No need to get pissy. |
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