Judging Art by the Artist

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Orson Scott Carde was actually the exact person I was thinking of when I made my post.

LOL, we think alike! Just got into a heated debate w/ my other half about him, too. Somehow he equates my dislike of Card's books based on the politics and unbelievable premise (What sane parents would allow their government to forcibly remove kids from their family to be placed in the military at incredibly young ages to be trained as a weapon? Most parents would've revolted long ago, IMHO....) of the series with the "immorality" of T-cest stories about consensual relationships between close "siblings" who may not even be biologically related (So, if Cyndi and Bobby Brady fell in love and wanted to marry, is that wrong?). I don't share his opinions on the subjects.

The allegations against Cosby are another thing, however. To me, this just seems like another money-chaser looking to get publicity and money, rather than an actual offense having been committed. Why is this JUST coming out NOW??!! I'm aware that this woman said something about it several years ago, but now suddenly we're hearing about it again? Just sounds off, to me.

[plastroncafe]

And just today news broke that the artist and co-creator of one of my favorite new comics, "The Rat Queens," was arrested for domestic abuse.

http://www.themarysue.com/rat-queens...omestic-abuse/

Damnation.
My faves really ARE problematic.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, it sucks when people we like go off the deep end, but if we keep excusing their behavior, it'll just get worse. I'm all for it if people who do bad things change and reform as they admit what they've done is wrong. That's fine, but if people do things and don't admit to it or learn from it, then they don't get a pass from me at all.

[slashpieturtlemix]

I grew up in the art world and I think of everything as a separate piece no matter who that person is. Plus its the only way I can live with liking Rob Liefeld lol

[Bloodsucker]

What did Jason Biggs do?

I did not read it.

[plastroncafe]

He made sexist jokes regarding the wives of high ranking politicians, and has a history of off-color humor with a dude-bro bent.

The problems escalated somewhat when the official TMNT Nick twitter thought it might be a good idea to link to the Social Media sites of its voice actors, and Biggs' Twitter feed is not for children.

I'd go so far as to say it's not for a good number of adults either.

But there's never been a confirmation that what he's said over Twitter is what got him "fired" or that he'd been fired at all. He was just...replaced.

[BubblyShell22]

I think Nick issued a statement saying that Biggs left because he had other commitments, but that could also be a cover up to why he was really fired. Either way, I'm not sad he's gone, and to be honest, when I first heard he was going to be voicing Leo, I wasn't too happy until I heard the voice. Then I figured it would be a good idea to give him a chance, so I did. Then I heard about the Twitter stuff, and I lost respect for him, mainly for the comments about the Malaysian Airlines tragedy that occurred. So, there you go.

[plastroncafe]

Source for that, because it's the first I'm hearing of it, and some actual confirmation would be nice.

[BubblyShell22]

Don't have one. I thought it was somewhere in one of the Official Info threads or something. Can't remember, and I really don't feel like looking for it either.

[plastroncafe]

Maybe if we're both lucky someone will come up with a link and we can finally put this debate to rest.

[Powder]

They never issued a statement, nor was there ever a peep by any of the other staff/voice actors. It remains in speculation. Prolly got some NDA's in place, which would be a credit towards his firing being over that controversy, rather than other work taking priority.

[Bloodsucker]

I still don't know what he said.

Anybody have specifics? It would be nice if you would share them thanks

[plastroncafe]

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...ht=jason+biggs

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...ht=jason+biggs

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Content Warning: Michelle Malkin

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Powder

They never issued a statement, nor was there ever a peep by any of the other staff/voice actors. It remains in speculation. Prolly got some NDA's in place, which would be a credit towards his firing being over that controversy, rather than other work taking priority.

I could have sworn someone posted something on here about a statement regarding his departure. Maybe I'm wrong and they read an article on it or something. Not sure now, but I could have sworn there was something that was posted here about that.

[plastroncafe]

If you ever feel up for going in search of it, please let us know when you do.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, all I can remember is that it was either in the Season 2 Official Info Thread, the VA Thread, or the thread on Jason Biggs. That's all I can recall at the moment.

[Bloodsucker]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...ht=jason+biggs

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...ht=jason+biggs

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Content Warning: Michelle Malkin

Oh. But did he say it as Leonardo, in his Leonardo voice?
I don't understand. Is he being paid to tweet from his personal account?

He shouldn't offend the Christians. They know how people should be treated. They have this saying "Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself." I think that means everyone should be held to the same standards, or something.
There is no way anyone would want their personal accounts to be used against them, or their livelihood. That would be unfair, wouldn't it? The Christians must be on his side.

You are right though, that if you take on the responsibility of being an actor, you need to be better than everyone else. You can't say what you want, because then people might think that you are not the character.

Byan Cranston should make Meth in real life, and kill people. If he didn't I would get confused.

I hope Seth Green understands that now that he is Leonardo, he has to become a real ninja.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Bloodsucker

He shouldn't offend the Christians. They know how people should be treated. They have this saying "Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself." I think that means everyone should be held to the same standards, or something.
There is no way anyone would want their personal accounts to be used against them, or their livelihood. That would be unfair, wouldn't it? The Christians must be on his side.

What does this **** have to do with anything.

[Bloodsucker]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

What does this **** have to do with anything.

Hi There. I nice to meet you. What does what mean?

[Netkeeper]

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You didn't read a word I said, did you?