Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep6: "Race with the Demon"

[travelingcat]

You know Rob Paulsen had a lot of fun voicing this one.

I enjoyed this one. Not as good as Dream Beavers though. I was afraid there was going to be some idiot ball between them involving the love triangle, but nope. Casey wants to personally take down Speed Demon after being challenged by it, actually begs Donnie to help fix up his hotrod, but gives up trying to beat Speed Demon so he can save Donnie. It didn't require April for them to work together. Also liked the ABC insults.

Random thing, but I really love the detail that went into to animating the chickens. It's pretty accurate.

The only thing I didn't like about this episode were the parts with Dr. Cluckingsworth MD. Just...why? Oh lucky lucky, the bird that accidentally gets mutated instantly knows complicated stuff and can conveniently be a navigator for the Turtle Racer. So forced. Also, the turtles need to ban themselves from keeping normal pets. They just can't stop them from getting into mutagen.

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Oh, and seeing Casey in this episode, makes me wonder if it's foreshadowing his temper issue later on or that he may end up having one later on.

Well, we see him get pretty mad at Speed Demon just for knocking him off the road, and tries to personally stop it on his own. I'm certain we'll see this behavior again once Hun kicks his butt and cracks his nuts, starting their rivalry.

Originally Posted by ssjup81

You know, the Shellraiser should've raised a lot of questions and gotten a lot of attention from the cops. No registration. It's also a subway car, not meant for driving on an actual road.

Yeah really. But then, what cop would look at the Shellraiser and try to pull it over?

[Shark_Blade]

Love it. I love the madness and mutated Donnie car thing.

Though the chicken being smart bugged me a little. Even if you have an efficient brain, you still need to fill it with knowledge to become smart..but cartoon logic. *shrug*

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Even if you have an efficient brain, you still need to fill it with knowledge to become smart..but cartoon logic. *shrug*

Not to mention this is bein produced by the same network that has a cartoon showcasing underwater sea life where somehow there's a secondary body of water.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Bitsy83

Last but not least: the Chicken. Sort of out of nowhere, but let's just assume this is Donnie's new pet. Like how ICK is Mikey's pet and Spike was Raph's. I actually think ssjup81 made a good point: how the eggs will be a source of fuel for the Turtles. Certainly seems plausible. Plus it was kinda cute once you got past the large brain.

Either a pet, or another egghead (pun not intended) for Donnie to work with. Maybe that chicken was hanging out in the barn while Donnie was doing his experiments? And since it was able to pick up so fast what they were saying and how to use the computer, she might be able to help Donnie brainstorm ways of getting back into the city.

Originally Posted by Bitsy83

All in all, this was just another fun episode to have before the heavy stuff starts. I really hope people aren't setting the bar too high for the Spirit Quest like they did with North Hampton. During season 2, people couldn't wait to get to that story arc. Since it isn't overly emotional and there's little to no angst, people are bitching again.

Can't please anyone anymore.

I think they will end up doing so. I am enjoying the episodes so far, they seem to no longer have plot amnesia (each episode now leads into the next) and they are lighthearted and fun. I'm actually dreading the return to New York in a sense, because even though I'll see my favorite bad guys again (Xever and Bradford) I know they'll still be nerfed and goofy.

And yeah, the bitching's getting a bit old. I could understand one or two episodes, but if they think the North Hampton eps suck, why not skip them all until we get to the Vision Quest ones? We'll let them know, because everyone else will be shouting it from the rooftops. Plus I hate angst. It's not so bad for an episode or two, but I don't want to see Turtles and co constantly moping around as a form a 'character development.' Not all grieving people act that way, especially not those that still believe their loved one could still be alive.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

This episode REALLY should have had some sort of dedication to Jim Lawson, Dan Berger, and Peter Laird at the beginning or end.

[madyankees]

MD....MD...
Chicken Power.

Strangely...this is my fav episode so far in Season 3

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Bitsy83

That's what I think will happen to Donnie and Casey, though not in that order. You saw how upset Casey was when April was rubbing Donnie's neck. Or how Donnie hated Casey giving April that hug. I really want to believe it'll be mentioned during Donnie's Spirit Quest. That he has to stop competing with Casey for April's affections and not risk ruining TWO solid friendships for ONE possible relationship, no matter who April ends up officially choosing. Wouldn't that be freaky if during his quest, he sees a weird reenactment of the day Tang Shen died, and when Shredder turns around, it's either Donnie or Casey's face instead of Oroku Saki's? (Oops, I made a prediction. That means it won't happen. My bad)

Is it possible that we're going to see a confrontation that's similar to this as another homage from the comics?

[darthwahl56]

This episode makes me want to customize the Mikey Hot Rod for Casey Jones. Then I want an Ed Roth Speed Demon vehicle with Donnie popping out the top.

I liked the fact that Donnie and Casey got along in this episode. Also Mikey calling the bus, the "Party Wagon." Then the smart chicken, very funny new character, still talks in clucks but is crazy smart. I loved the Ed Roth throwback in this episode so much that I didn't care how the car got mutated.

[Bitsy83]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

Is it possible that we're going to see a confrontation that's similar to this as another homage from the comics?
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Uh.....I haven't read this issue yet. Why is Casey doing that to Donnie? Are you telling me that these two have bumped heads in the past?

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Bitsy83

Uh.....I haven't read this issue yet. Why is Casey doing that to Donnie? Are you telling me that these two have bumped heads in the past?

It was for a completely different reason. Casey in the mirage comics killed a kid accidentally and tried to drown his sorrows through alcohol. By the time he meet up with Donnie, he was still a little drunk and well...sorta the stuff that would happen when you end up fighting a drunk.

The difference with the show, Casey could recently come from April after being shoot down or telling him straight that she is not interested into him and Casey being the hothead would think that this all has do with Donnie so when he sees him, he would try to egg him on into fighting him, because Casey is looking for someone to take out his aggression so yeah that how it could happen in the show.

[miru]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Love it. I love the madness and mutated Donnie car thing.

Though the chicken being smart bugged me a little. Even if you have an efficient brain, you still need to fill it with knowledge to become smart..but cartoon logic. *shrug*

Well, at least Mega Brain was a gal this time. You all wanted more girls.


Oh, you wanted a pretty girl, right? Then we'll all have to wait for Renet to crop up.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by ***Doo Doo Acureds***

This episode REALLY should have had some sort of dedication to Jim Lawson, Dan Berger, and Peter Laird at the beginning or end.

I see no reason for that. Ed Roth, sure, maybe Rick Veitch, but the Mirage fellas? They're into motorcycles.

[Ninjinister]

Well, it's not up on the places I normally watch (Amazon, PSN) yet. I'll try back again tomorrow.

This is the second time this season that they've failed to have it up on Saturday. Last season they were going up the morning of the episode.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Well, it's not up on the places I normally watch (Amazon, PSN) yet. I'll try back again tomorrow.

This is the second time this season that they've failed to have it up on Saturday. Last season they were going up the morning of the episode.

They have it on Nick now, if you have one of their listed providers.

[Noxonius]

Another episode with a freakishly dark lining on it, I guess that's something I have to get used to know.

How the heck does mutagen even give more scientific information to the creature that consumes it? I know it's a cartoon, but I've gotten used to the realism of the 2003 series. And I also don't like how they keep changing the rules of the show. Mutagen now mutates inanimate objects like cars? Wtf...

[Bitsy83]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

It was for a completely different reason. Casey in the mirage comics killed a kid accidentally and tried to drown his sorrows through alcohol. By the time he meet up with Donnie, he was still a little drunk and well...sorta the stuff that would happen when you end up fighting a drunk.

The difference with the show, Casey could recently come from April after being shoot down or telling him straight that she is not interested into him and Casey being the hothead would think that this all has do with Donnie so when he sees him, he would try to egg him on into fighting him, because Casey is looking for someone to take out his aggression so yeah that how it could happen in the show.

Now THAT would be kinda neat to see. Casey and Donnie have finally become good friends and (for the time being) decided to stop fighting for April, but once April makes her choice (from the looks of it, it'll be Donnie), then we'll see that friendship tested.

Let's say this does happen and Casey decides to confront Donnie about it privately. Then he starts to push Donnie's buttons about him and April and does the poking thing with his hockey stick. A fight breaks out and they start to see what's happening if they continue acting like this.

This is why I wish people would quit complaining about Capritello. Yeah, I can see how it can be a bit irritating and drawn out too long, but I've been hoping that it's all just building up for the Tang Shen parallel. I seriously hope that's what Ciro and the writers have been planning all along with making April a teenager and having Donnie crushing on her.

Hey, maybe THAT'S why they were originally going to have Raph have a crush on her! Because him and Casey have always been great friends in past incarnations and to have them fighting over a girl would be an awesome conflict for them. But Raph's got enough jealousy to deal with with the classic Leo/Raph (which is the more popular for fans) and Donnie has never had love interests (unlike Raph, who had like a girlfriend in almost every incarnation). Either way, they remember the love triangle from the first movie with Shredder and wanted to bring it back for this show and have it involved the Turtles as well!

....that made sense, right?

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Bitsy83

Now THAT would be kinda neat to see. Casey and Donnie have finally become good friends and (for the time being) decided to stop fighting for April, but once April makes her choice (from the looks of it, it'll be Donnie), then we'll see that friendship tested.

Let's say this does happen and Casey decides to confront Donnie about it privately. Then he starts to push Donnie's buttons about him and April and does the poking thing with his hockey stick. A fight breaks out and they start to see what's happening if they continue acting like this.

This is why I wish people would quit complaining about Capritello. Yeah, I can see how it can be a bit irritating and drawn out too long, but I've been hoping that it's all just building up for the Tang Shen parallel. I seriously hope that's what Ciro and the writers have been planning all along with making April a teenager and having Donnie crushing on her.

Hey, maybe THAT'S why they were originally going to have Raph have a crush on her! Because him and Casey have always been great friends in past incarnations and to have them fighting over a girl would be an awesome conflict for them. But Raph's got enough jealousy to deal with with the classic Leo/Raph (which is the more popular for fans) and Donnie has never had love interests (unlike Raph, who had like a girlfriend in almost every incarnation). Either way, they remember the love triangle from the first movie with Shredder and wanted to bring it back for this show and have it involved the Turtles as well!

....that made sense, right?

I guess so but a part of me wants to think that April will reject Donnie too, because April when looking at herself a mirror and realizes how pitiful she looks in stringing two guys along for a ego boost (maybe her intentions weren't at all selfish and was trying to please everyone like Mako's but who knows) and especially when one said guy has genuine feelings which makes her feel really guilty so she decides to she needs some space and get her priorities re-check.

It hurts her character by not giving her say and making everything she does vague and ambiguous. Especially when there's plot amnesia.

I just feel this love triangle has no direction in where it's going and when I try to make sense of it, a vein starts throbbing and my brain starts to hurt. It just makes me so angry.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

They have it on Nick now, if you have one of their listed providers.

Nope! That's why I gotta watch it online in the first place.

[cryan]

Donnie when he he gets fused with the mutant car reminded me of those maniac racers with the super large heads.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Noxonius

Another episode with a freakishly dark lining on it, I guess that's something I have to get used to know.

How the heck does mutagen even give more scientific information to the creature that consumes it? I know it's a cartoon, but I've gotten used to the realism of the 2003 series. And I also don't like how they keep changing the rules of the show. Mutagen now mutates inanimate objects like cars? Wtf...

The chicken could have been there many times through the months watching him tinker with his computer, the mutagen would simply give it the capacity to understand what he was doing and why.