Is Nick TMNT getting too scary for children?

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by neatoman

There are things in older TMNT material that is aimed for children but are still pretty disturbing.

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Heh. My 10 year old cousin refuses to watch "Insane in the Membrane" based on the screenshots he has seen of it. I can see why it's a controversial episode.

There are some messed up things in Season 3 of this show, tbh.

[CrazySquirrel]

I have a 2 year old that LOVES Mikey but I had to stop watching with her on some of the newer episodes. I think they will get away from this scary stuff soon. The part where Mikeys head CAME OFF AND COCKROACHES CAME OUT was insane. That creeped me out. Lol Id rather have stuff scarey than gross though lol

[HotNunchuckFury]

We're up to ep 4 and overall it's been ok but borderline, except ep 3, which crossed the line massively in my opinion and literally gave my 6 year old nightmares. There are some pretty dark episodes towards the end of season 2 which are a bit iffy too.

I didn't vote because it depends on the episode, ep 2 and 4 have been very popular with my kids and given them lots of giggles. Obviously it also depends on the child and what their fears are. My brother is 3 and a half years younger than me and he used to love watching Thriller at age 4 whilst I hid under the table with my eyes closed and fingers in my ears as I was a wimp! My son will watch all sorts of cartoons and films with monsters, dragons, ghouls, dinosaurs, vampires, werewolves, etc, but anything with zombies or witches in it can leave him a bit spooked. I totally get the whole fascination with fear thing. Kids like adults do enjoy the adrenaline rush of being scared, but not if they're scared beyond their wits!

What peeves me is this doesn't feel like it's aimed at the kids at all anymore, unlike the turtles I grew up with, so I'm a bit gutted for them. It's more like a show aimed at adults disguised as a cartoon for kids. Plus it doesn't even feel like TMNT anymore. There's no Splinter, Shredder, Kraang, Karai or any familiar characters from this show at all bar Casey and April. There's no sewers, city rooftops, dimension hopping, battles with the foot and hardly any ninja training. The time at the farmhouse isn't even being utilised to explore their characters, brotherhood or friendships more deeply, which I think is a missed opportunity. I feel like I'm just sitting through these episodes waiting for them to get back to New York. Is that just me?

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by HotNunchuckFury

We're up to ep 4 and overall it's been ok but borderline, except ep 3, which crossed the line massively in my opinion and literally gave my 6 year old nightmares. There are some pretty dark episodes towards the end of season 2 which are a bit iffy too.

I didn't vote because it depends on the episode, ep 2 and 4 have been very popular with my kids and given them lots of giggles. Obviously it also depends on the child and what their fears are. My brother is 3 and a half years younger than me and he used to love watching Thriller at age 4 whilst I hid under the table with my eyes closed and fingers in my ears as I was a wimp! My son will watch all sorts of cartoons and films with monsters, dragons, ghouls, dinosaurs, vampires, werewolves, etc, but anything with zombies or witches in it can leave him a bit spooked. I totally get the whole fascination with fear thing. Kids like adults do enjoy the adrenaline rush of being scared, but not if they're scared beyond their wits!

What peeves me is this doesn't feel like it's aimed at the kids at all anymore, unlike the turtles I grew up with, so I'm a bit gutted for them. It's more like a show aimed at adults disguised as a cartoon for kids. Plus it doesn't even feel like TMNT anymore. There's no Splinter, Shredder, Kraang, Karai or any familiar characters from this show at all bar Casey and April. There's no sewers, city rooftops, dimension hopping, battles with the foot and hardly any ninja training. The time at the farmhouse isn't even being utilised to explore their characters, brotherhood or friendships more deeply, which I think is a missed opportunity. I feel like I'm just sitting through these episodes waiting for them to get back to New York. Is that just me?

You might have to watch episode 5 first before you show it to your kids.

I showed the episode Burried Secrets to my friend the other day, she has a 7 year old daughter (she doesn't watch TMNT though), My friend said she wouldn't let her daughter watch that episode and should be banned from airing here.

It's been mentioned the turtles are at the farm for 13 episode but that could be wrong. We think episode 7 (which probably won't air till January) focuses on whats happening in New York so we will be seeing Splinter, Shredder, the debut of Rocksteady and Bebop. Then theres the Turtles Spirit Quest episode so hopefully the episodes will get better in January.

Does anyone think that Burried Secets could be banned from airing in the UK (Nick and Channel 5) but still be on I Tunes though or do you think they just put on in the evening.

I can't remember but was the 2k3 episode Insane in the Membrane banned in the UK.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Does anyone think that Burried Secets could be banned from airing in the UK (Nick and Channel 5) but still be on I Tunes though or do you think they just put on in the evening.

I can't remember but was the 2k3 episode Insane in the Membrane banned in the UK.

That one scene in "In Dreams" would probably be edited out.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

That one scene in "In Dreams" would probably be edited out.

Which one?

Spoiler:

Raphs dream, the turtles on the convayor belt or Donnie's dream where Dark Beaver is behind him on the bed.

I wonder if the Crognard cartoon on Race with the Demon will be cut out.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Which one?

Spoiler:

Raphs dream, the turtles on the convayor belt or Donnie's dream where Dark Beaver is behind him on the bed.

I wonder if the Crognard cartoon on Race with the Demon will be cut out.

Not outside the U.S. The other countries are really lax about that sort of thing.

[HotNunchuckFury]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

You might have to watch episode 5 first before you show it to your kids.

I showed the episode Burried Secrets to my friend the other day, she has a 7 year old daughter (she doesn't watch TMNT though), My friend said she wouldn't let her daughter watch that episode and should be banned from airing here.

It's been mentioned the turtles are at the farm for 13 episode but that could be wrong. We think episode 7 (which probably won't air till January) focuses on whats happening in New York so we will be seeing Splinter, Shredder, the debut of Rocksteady and Bebop. Then theres the Turtles Spirit Quest episode so hopefully the episodes will get better in January.

Does anyone think that Burried Secets could be banned from airing in the UK (Nick and Channel 5) but still be on I Tunes though or do you think they just put on in the evening.

I can't remember but was the 2k3 episode Insane in the Membrane banned in the UK.

Thanks for the warning, I'll definitely watch ep5 when they're in bed first. And good to know we'll be getting an update of NY soon, although 13 episodes at the farm is a lot more than I was expecting No idea if ep3 will get banned here or not, but it wouldn't be a bad thing if it was moved to an evening slot.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

Not outside the U.S. The other countries are really lax about that sort of thing.http://www.narutoforums.com/images/s...s2/2pys0vr.png

I'm clearly unobservant. I didn't even notice that thing in Crognard until I saw you all talking about it, watched it again, and then laughed my head off over it, thinking, "Ah, just like Rocko's Modern Life". lol The first season had a lot of suggestive stuff in it that has me, as an adult, wondering how those things got past the censors, ESPECIALLY the ep "Leap Frogs" which I did see in its original run, that I heard that for later showings, Nick actually pulled. I was only maybe 11 or so at the time with that ep, but I did feel uncomfortable with it, but couldn't really figure out why. Figured it out when I saw the ep again after so many years as an adult. lol

[LR19]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I'm clearly unobservant. I didn't even notice that thing in Crognard until I saw you all talking about it, watched it again, and then laughed my head off over it, thinking, "Ah, just like Rocko's Modern Life". lol The first season had a lot of suggestive stuff in it that has me, as an adult, wondering how those things got past the censors, ESPECIALLY the ep "Leap Frogs" which I did see in its original run, that I heard that for later showings, Nick actually pulled. I was only maybe 11 or so at the time with that ep, but I did feel uncomfortable with it, but couldn't really figure out why. Figured it out when I saw the ep again after so many years as an adult. lol

oh man, I remember the episode where Rocko becomes a "phone operator" and very dryly says oh baby oh baby oh baby oh. I used to walk around saying that as a kid all the time with no clue. /ot TV shows generally get away with things like that by putting in a red herring that's obviously much worse for the censors to focus on - I wonder if TMNT did/does the same?

[snake]

I don't get what was so bad about the crognard cartoon. He Man had tons of shots where they looked like they were humping each other.

[IndigoErth]

All that stuff that wasn't noticed back then but is pretty obvious now. Glad TMNT is carrying on the animation tradition a little. lol

At least it's in fairly subtle ways that are just implied. Not as bad as some of the stuff older Disney movies hid in there. lol (Btw... I just stated typing "hidden perv-" in Google and it immediately finished the line with "-erted things in Disney movies." Wow. It's that bad. )

[shuriken]

That's the point. It's supposed to be scary. Goosebumps, Gohstbusters, and some Mighty Max and even Spider-man episodes creeped me the hell out as a kid, like sweaty palms and everything. It just made me want to watch it even more. It depends on the kids themselves but I remember when I was about 8 years old I was obsessed with watching as many horror movies as I could. For the next 4 years I would be super into them. So I don't think so, They know what they are doing.

[Vicky82]

Gargoyles got away with a lot of stuff and it was a Disney cartoon.

The huge death count.
The Deadly Force Episode, Broadway shoots Elisa by accident, as he was playing with her gun. A lot of blood in this episode too.
Humans turning to stone and Demona destroys a few of them in City of Stone.

There's alot more but can't think at the moment.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Gargoyles got away with a lot of stuff and it was a Disney cartoon.

The huge death count.
The Deadly Force Episode, Broadway shoots Elisa by accident, as he was playing with her gun. A lot of blood in this episode too.
Humans turning to stone and Demona destroys a few of them in City of Stone.

There's alot more but can't think at the moment.

There was a little bit of implied nudity in there as well, I believe.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Jephael

There was a little bit of implied nudity in there as well, I believe.

Yeah, in the episode Eye of the Beholder where Fox turns into a ware fox.

[evan2000]

Originally Posted by Jephael

There was a little bit of implied nudity in there as well, I believe.

Is Kirby's post-demutation scene at the end of The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman considered implied nudity as well? I mean he flat-out said he was nude.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

No way. Back in my day, we had Are You Afraid of the Dark?. Plus, I'd often watch the Maxx, the Head and Aeon Flux back when they were on MTV.

We are raising our children to be softer than a baby turd.

[pennydreadful]

Now there's a mental image for ya.

[Redeemer]

I haven't seen any season 3 episodes, but when I was about 9 or 10 I watched child splay 1,2, and 3.

Spoiler:

Chucky tearing off his hand and sticking a knife!!!!

What really gets me is jump scenes. Chucky was perfect for that.

I also watched friday the 13th when I was 9???I think. Jason wasn't as bad.