What are your views on this quote relating to homophobia and masculinity?

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Originally Posted by Davetello

True, But it just so happens that I saw this social science debate touched on on a football forum. The debate will be going on on non-sport forums too.

Nah, they certainly don't think guys like F Torres are gay, it's just homophobia and a way to belittle someone. And yeah, it's amazing there seems to be some sort of link between homosexuality and weakness or softness for homophobes. As you say, there are plenty of straight men who have no guts. It's probably due to a misunderstanding of 'camp' men.





You think so? I don't always think of it that way. But it does make sense since there are plenty of sexists and misogynists about. It still seems strange in a way because men love women physically, but some still see it as acceptable to assign negative attributes to girls/women and, as you say, imply that gay men are 'closer' to women than they are to being real men. The whole thing is fvkced up.

A lot of it is what I talked about earlier - a desire to come across as alpha and manly and the more I think of it the more the original quote is sensible. I know I had a bit of a preoccupation with masculinity for a long time since I'm quite a boyish person. But I never felt that calling other men gay would make me seem more manly. I find the whole idea pathetic to be honest. Clearly major sings of insecurity.

I saw a stand up sketch on youtube about it and he made the most sense. It is pretty much men trying to put down other men who show feelings. I think it is more of the boot camp mentality. You want to prove yourself a manly man so you do not want to be anything below a man. Anything else is unmanly. No matter the terminology.