DC Comics movie schedule - Page 2

B-Man · 12-02-2014, 07:37 PM

So these two will be doing this in the future...

Will Smith is unexpected (despite his wife being in 'Gotham'). Cool choice & could explain why he's said no to the in pre-production 'ID4' sequel. Margot Robbie may be the most spot-on bit of casting DC has done yet. Tom Hardy now has two DC villains to his name. Jai Courtney isn't really a benefit to any movie but he'll fit the Aussie part fine (I would've gone with Ben Mendelsohn). Leto has the biggest challenge of anyone.

*sdp* · 12-02-2014, 08:53 PM

I'm glad we're getting Joker in films again, I was afraid they'd be reluctant to use him for a while but I don't think he fits a Suicide Squad movie, Joker doesn't want to redeem himself..Not liking Will Smith in my superhero movies though or race changing Deadshot..

I was hoping a Suicide Squad movie wouldn't be too superhero centric, and that they'd use lesser known villains so the average folk wouldn't even know it was a superhero movie but I guess that's not happening. But still pretty excited for a Suicide Squad movie.

*CyberCubed* · 12-02-2014, 09:50 PM

Two gay men are playing Joker and Batman? I hope they don't put any subtext in the film.

*TurtleTitan97* · 12-02-2014, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Two gay men are playing Joker and Batman? I hope they don't put any subtext in the film.

Do you even think before you post? Ben Affleck is married to Jennifer Garner, and Jared Leto is dating model.

What the heck are you even talking about?

~~Leo656~~ · 12-02-2014, 10:17 PM

Ben Affleck isn't gay you f*cking fartknocker. Who writes this sh*t for you? Well, I mean, I seen him kiss dudes, and he's pretty chummy with Damon, so who knows, but who cares, for that matter? Ledger made a gay cowboy porno and he got to be the Joker, I didn't hear you bitchin' back then.

And the Joker/Batman relationship is very openly full of gay subtext. Joker is very openly romantically obsessed with Batman and they've been playing with that in the books off and on for decades. Granted, it's not something the movies play with - understandably - but it's canon. Sucks to be homophobic sometimes, eh? That Thing You Like Has Gayish Stuff In It, Gross! Now you can't like it, ha-ha!

Anyways, people seem excited about the cast. I'm only a little familiar with most of them but if people are happy, that's a good sign. I have a feeling they're either going to use the Joker as a full-blown antagonist to the team of anti-hero protagonists, or simply keep him slightly off to the side for most of the movie and simply use the film to establish that he indeed exists. I kind of think Joker is only in the movie because someone really fell in love with the idea of using the Harley Quinn version of the Squad, and you can't explain who she is without having Joker in the same film. So I think he's only in it because he "Has" to be, and they're going to just establish the character a little bit in this movie and save the real meaty stuff for a future Batman film. That's my guess, anyways.

*CyberCubed* · 12-02-2014, 10:36 PM

When has Joker ever been gay for Batman in canon? He has an addiction to Batman trying to stop him but I don't think he ever "loved" the guy.

B-Man · 12-02-2014, 10:39 PM

Anyone seen DC's recent animated 'Batman: Assault On Arkham'? It's pretty awesome. Forget the title, Batman's just an extended cameo. It's the worlds first Suicide Squad movie. In it, Joker is an antagonist to the Squad who wants to split them apart and f*ck everything up because he doesn't like Harley getting close to Deadshot. Instead of seeming like a bitter ex, he just seems like an evil bastard who wants this woman on a string & doesn't want to see her happy. It keeps her feelings for him ambiguous. Chances are this new movie will be a lot like it - though I dunno how the hell they're gonna make a live-action movie where the protagonists go around killing any innocents that get in their way throughout...

B-Man · 12-02-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

When has Joker ever been gay for Batman in canon? He has an addiction to Batman trying to stop him but I don't think he ever "loved" the guy.

The Dark Knight Returns makes a lot of not-so-subtle references to him viewing Batman romantically.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-02-2014, 10:47 PM

And besides that one, like, literally one of the most recent comics stories, like two years or so ago, they flat-out make it canon. I didn't read the whole thing, but one of the subplots in the "Death of the Family" storyline in 2012 was apparently that Joker has a romantic fixation on Batman.

I can take it or leave it, but it's in there, and there's been more than those two examples. I can't be bothered to go digging for it, someone else probably will.

But no, the movies probably won't bother with that particular bit of subtext, because movies aren't very good at nuance or subtlety.

*ToTheNines* · 12-03-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Two gay men are playing Joker and Batman? I hope they don't put any subtext in the film.

You guys HAVE to ban this mother ****er. He is constantly ******** on homosexuals. Now he's making **** up about actors just to have an excuse to do it.

Please get rid of him, I'm literally begging you.

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 12-03-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Two gay men are playing Joker and Batman? I hope they don't put any subtext in the film.

Please tell me you aren't like this in real life.

*Redeemer* · 12-03-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

You guys HAVE to ban this mother ****er. He is constantly ******** on homosexuals. Now he's making **** up about actors just to have an excuse to do it.

Please get rid of him, I'm literally begging you.

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Please tell me you aren't like this in real life.

You guys realize he does this to only get you guys "fired up/raz you"
He does it just to instigate. If you notice he does not even try to defend the statement

*ToTheNines* · 12-03-2014, 02:53 PM

You would think so, but he never appears to revel in it. Either way, he is a sicko and I would like this place much better without him.

12-02-2014, 07:37 PM	#21
B-Man Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: New Zealand Posts: 406	So these two will be doing this in the future... Will Smith is unexpected (despite his wife being in 'Gotham'). Cool choice & could explain why he's said no to the in pre-production 'ID4' sequel. Margot Robbie may be the most spot-on bit of casting DC has done yet. Tom Hardy now has two DC villains to his name. Jai Courtney isn't really a benefit to any movie but he'll fit the Aussie part fine (I would've gone with Ben Mendelsohn). Leto has the biggest challenge of anyone. __________________ "They were many. But we kicked... We fought well."

12-02-2014, 08:53 PM	#22
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	I'm glad we're getting Joker in films again, I was afraid they'd be reluctant to use him for a while but I don't think he fits a Suicide Squad movie, Joker doesn't want to redeem himself..Not liking Will Smith in my superhero movies though or race changing Deadshot.. I was hoping a Suicide Squad movie wouldn't be too superhero centric, and that they'd use lesser known villains so the average folk wouldn't even know it was a superhero movie but I guess that's not happening. But still pretty excited for a Suicide Squad movie. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

12-02-2014, 10:39 PM	#27
B-Man Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: New Zealand Posts: 406	Anyone seen DC's recent animated 'Batman: Assault On Arkham'? It's pretty awesome. Forget the title, Batman's just an extended cameo. It's the worlds first Suicide Squad movie. In it, Joker is an antagonist to the Squad who wants to split them apart and f*ck everything up because he doesn't like Harley getting close to Deadshot. Instead of seeming like a bitter ex, he just seems like an evil bastard who wants this woman on a string & doesn't want to see her happy. It keeps her feelings for him ambiguous. Chances are this new movie will be a lot like it - though I dunno how the hell they're gonna make a live-action movie where the protagonists go around killing any innocents that get in their way throughout... __________________ "They were many. But we kicked... We fought well."

12-02-2014, 09:50 PM	#23
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	Two gay men are playing Joker and Batman? I hope they don't put any subtext in the film.

12-02-2014, 10:17 PM	#25
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Ben Affleck isn't gay you fcking fartknocker. Who writes this sht for you? Well, I mean, I seen him kiss dudes, and he's pretty chummy with Damon, so who knows, but who cares, for that matter? Ledger made a gay cowboy porno and he got to be the Joker, I didn't hear you bitchin' back then. And the Joker/Batman relationship is very openly full of gay subtext. Joker is very openly romantically obsessed with Batman and they've been playing with that in the books off and on for decades. Granted, it's not something the movies play with - understandably - but it's canon. Sucks to be homophobic sometimes, eh? That Thing You Like Has Gayish Stuff In It, Gross! Now you can't like it, ha-ha! Anyways, people seem excited about the cast. I'm only a little familiar with most of them but if people are happy, that's a good sign. I have a feeling they're either going to use the Joker as a full-blown antagonist to the team of anti-hero protagonists, or simply keep him slightly off to the side for most of the movie and simply use the film to establish that he indeed exists. I kind of think Joker is only in the movie because someone really fell in love with the idea of using the Harley Quinn version of the Squad, and you can't explain who she is without having Joker in the same film. So I think he's only in it because he "Has" to be, and they're going to just establish the character a little bit in this movie and save the real meaty stuff for a future Batman film. That's my guess, anyways.

12-02-2014, 10:36 PM	#26
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	When has Joker ever been gay for Batman in canon? He has an addiction to Batman trying to stop him but I don't think he ever "loved" the guy.

12-02-2014, 10:47 PM	#29
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	And besides that one, like, literally one of the most recent comics stories, like two years or so ago, they flat-out make it canon. I didn't read the whole thing, but one of the subplots in the "Death of the Family" storyline in 2012 was apparently that Joker has a romantic fixation on Batman. I can take it or leave it, but it's in there, and there's been more than those two examples. I can't be bothered to go digging for it, someone else probably will. But no, the movies probably won't bother with that particular bit of subtext, because movies aren't very good at nuance or subtlety.

12-03-2014, 02:53 PM	#33
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,368	You would think so, but he never appears to revel in it. Either way, he is a sicko and I would like this place much better without him.