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Old 12-05-2014, 05:26 AM   #21
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Whoa there. Relax I wasn't calling you lazy. I know you weren't giving a complaint. I meant generally speaking as I've seen others say stuff like changing discs is too much trouble.

Still I stand by opinion...if someone considers swapping discs too much trouble I think that's pretty darn lazy. Regardless of their daily life. I mean if you can't get up and change a disc, which contain multiple episodes anyway, then getting up to use the bathroom or get a drink is too much trouble too.

Sorry but anyone who is annoyed by changing discs just sounds snobby imo. Let's change channels with our minds or better yet beam shows right into our minds...can't be bothered to sit for an hour.
I shouldn't really be online as I really have work to do today, but seeing as you replied in a civil manner I decided to post now rather than later.

First of all, thanks for your polite reply. In truth my response wasn't anything bad, but I guess it was somewhat snarky. Some people might have replied with an attitude, but you were calm and tried to diffuse a slightly temperamental situation. For that you deserve enormous credit.

Now, on to you content of your post...I do know what you mean and I'm probably being too liberal with those who cba to swap discs. However, as I say, we're in the era of convenience so lots of people are now programmed to do the least work possible for the most reward. What you have to bear in mind is that many young people, for example, did not grow up in the era of optical media as we did. DVDs are still prevalent now, but with the advent of streaming and also downloading lots of people aren't used to using them.

The thing about Netflix is that you have the entire thing there at once, structured on the interface and divided into seasons. For some people that can be psychologically and visually appealing. I also have a bit of a problem with DVDs not because they are a hassle to get up and insert, but because they take forever to load. Not only that, but the legislation messages at the start treat us like criminals even though we have legally paid for the set. It takes a while to get to the title and in this era of instant gratification we want to get straight to the next ep if we're binge viewing. However, I agree that that's a serious problem with this era, but while it exists people will moan about swapping DVDs.

Although there's a problem with streaming too. For example, I watch Netflix on my PS3, predominantly. The PS3 takes a while to load up and get to the XMB, and then Netflix itself seems to take a good minute to finally load and get to the interface. So these problems aren't exclusive to physical copies. But that's the way of the world now. Remember back in the 90s when we loadd up A Link to the Past or Mario 64? We put the game on and were at the title screen almost instantly. Now we have adventure games that take minutes to load due to all of the developers, publishers, advertisers etc seemingly having their own part of the load up. The worst offender for this in terms of gaming is FIFA (and I expect EA's American sports sims are similar). On FIFA, it seems to take about ten minutes before you're even able to load a match. I'm not even joking here. It's so bad that I've fancied playing FIFA sometimes, but been put off by the frustrating load times. I am someone who likes to get things done, as I have lots of interests, so I generally hate to waste 10 minutes here and there when I'm trying to enjoy entertainment. So it's more a problem of modern life than anything.

overall, though, thanks for the discussion. It's been interesting and you have a fair point.

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I dunna Wildcat, 4Kids' TMNT Season 3 is a royal pain when it comes to swapping out discs. 1 episode here...2 there...3 on a third disc. It's nutty.
Yeah, in those cases then DVDs are certainly a joke, and I'm sure Wildcat will agree with you. He's talking about shows where the discs are in order and you only have to swap out after every six eps or so.

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Old 12-05-2014, 10:35 AM   #22
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I just typed up a massive reply to Wildcat and Jester, including being very friendly to the former, and it hasn't shown up. Says I'm the latest poster on the main page but when I open the topic the last post I see is Jester's. It took me ten minutes to type the post too. I ctrl-C'd it but that's not the point. Very frustrating.

Edit: no need, it's finally shown up. A way to delete posts would be nice so I could remove this.
You can, click edit, there is an option to delete.

Anyway, on to the topic. As with what most everyone has said, if I really like the show, I'm buying it. Have a good bit of seasons of shows already. Most are even on Netflix now.

You said level the playing field, so yeah, if I had unlimited data and all that, if the show is on Netflix or what have you, I'll use that. It's easier. Even if I have the series already.

I actually started watching Arrow on Netflix. I plan on buying the seasons when I get the chance, but if I ever get some damn home internet and the show is on Netflix still, I'll stream it.
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Old 12-05-2014, 10:37 AM   #23
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You can, click edit, there is an option to delete.

Anyway, on to the topic. As with what most everyone has said, if I really like the show, I'm buying it. Have a good bit of seasons of shows already. Most are even on Netflix now.

You said level the playing field, so yeah, if I had unlimited data and all that, if the show is on Netflix or what have you, I'll use that. It's easier. Even if I have the series already.

I actually started watching Arrow on Netflix. I plan on buying the seasons when I get the chance, but if I ever get some damn home internet and the show is on Netflix still, I'll stream it.
Thanks, I must have glossed over that. I will remember for the future.

I keep hearing Arrow gets better and better. I wasn't very interested originally due to my bias against the CW Network. However, I see it's on Netflix UK so I might give it a watch on the PS3.
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Yeah, check it out. It did take me a few eps to get into it, but I love it now.
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I shouldn't really be online as I really have work to do today, but seeing as you replied in a civil manner I decided to post now rather than later.

First of all, thanks for your polite reply. In truth my response wasn't anything bad, but I guess it was somewhat snarky. Some people might have replied with an attitude, but you were calm and tried to diffuse a slightly temperamental situation. For that you deserve enormous credit.

Now, on to you content of your post...I do know what you mean and I'm probably being too liberal with those who cba to swap discs. However, as I say, we're in the era of convenience so lots of people are now programmed to do the least work possible for the most reward. What you have to bear in mind is that many young people, for example, did not grow up in the era of optical media as we did. DVDs are still prevalent now, but with the advent of streaming and also downloading lots of people aren't used to using them.

The thing about Netflix is that you have the entire thing there at once, structured on the interface and divided into seasons. For some people that can be psychologically and visually appealing. I also have a bit of a problem with DVDs not because they are a hassle to get up and insert, but because they take forever to load. Not only that, but the legislation messages at the start treat us like criminals even though we have legally paid for the set. It takes a while to get to the title and in this era of instant gratification we want to get straight to the next ep if we're binge viewing. However, I agree that that's a serious problem with this era, but while it exists people will moan about swapping DVDs.

Although there's a problem with streaming too. For example, I watch Netflix on my PS3, predominantly. The PS3 takes a while to load up and get to the XMB, and then Netflix itself seems to take a good minute to finally load and get to the interface. So these problems aren't exclusive to physical copies. But that's the way of the world now. Remember back in the 90s when we loadd up A Link to the Past or Mario 64? We put the game on and were at the title screen almost instantly. Now we have adventure games that take minutes to load due to all of the developers, publishers, advertisers etc seemingly having their own part of the load up. The worst offender for this in terms of gaming is FIFA (and I expect EA's American sports sims are similar). On FIFA, it seems to take about ten minutes before you're even able to load a match. I'm not even joking here. It's so bad that I've fancied playing FIFA sometimes, but been put off by the frustrating load times. I am someone who likes to get things done, as I have lots of interests, so I generally hate to waste 10 minutes here and there when I'm trying to enjoy entertainment. So it's more a problem of modern life than anything.

overall, though, thanks for the discussion. It's been interesting and you have a fair point.
Ya I know what you meant. I just think sometimes people take go overboard when saying certain things are annoying. Oh and dvds are warning you not to commit piracy, not that you illegally acquired it.

I have a ps3 but it doesn't take long to get to the xmb...just a few seconds. If it takes that long there might be a problem with machine.

Load screens in games don't bother me. They're usually pretty quick. Some games they're long but that's usually due to bad development.
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:38 AM   #26
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Ya I know what you meant. I just think sometimes people take go overboard when saying certain things are annoying. Oh and dvds are warning you not to commit piracy, not that you illegally acquired it.

I have a ps3 but it doesn't take long to get to the xmb...just a few seconds. If it takes that long there might be a problem with machine.

Load screens in games don't bother me. They're usually pretty quick. Some games they're long but that's usually due to bad development.
I know. I'm not implying that someone legally acquired it. My point is that many people who buy DVDs aren't pirates, so it seems harsh. It's just ironic that someone who's spent their money on a film or tv show can't even start watching said presentation until they've been warned to to pirate.

Thanks. I guess I'm just less patient than you are. Even seeing that epilepsy warning annoys me. Yes, it's important, but once you've been told once or twice you don't have be told every time. There should be an option to remove it, that way parents could decide and the rest of us could eliminate it from the boot.

You can't have played FIFA. The load times in that game are abysmal and actually make me angry when trying to boot.
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