Is Nick TMNT getting too scary for children?

[Ravenshell]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Gargoyles got away with a lot of stuff and it was a Disney cartoon.

The huge death count.
The Deadly Force Episode, Broadway shoots Elisa by accident, as he was playing with her gun. A lot of blood in this episode too.
Humans turning to stone and Demona destroys a few of them in City of Stone.

There's alot more but can't think at the moment.

I just rewatched the Gargoyles Q&A from CONvergence, where Greg Weisman was asked how they managed to get away with some of the things in Gargoyles, and it came down to the fact that they had a really understanding S&P rep. "Pay a man enough and he'll walk barefoot through Hell," made it in because Hell is a place, in this isntance, not swearing. Deadly Force's gun violence was allowed, as long as actual real-world consequences were showed. Though I know later, the networks airing Gargs lost their guts and cut scenes with guns (even Elisa turning over her piece to be melted down) and refused to run Deadly Force.

[Donatello19]

Honestly, the only thing that made me jump a little was that one really creepy close up shot of April's "mother"...

[TMNTFOREVA]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

For some reason the writers seem to be on a horror genre crusade with this show. Most of the Season 3 episodes are horror movie influenced.

Do you think the target audience (5-10 year olds) are getting creeped out by these episodes?

Don't know. I watch them with my 2 year old sister. Am I menatlly scarring her for life?

I also just realized I'm not part of the target audience....

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

This new season of Doctor Who is WAY darker and "scarier" than anything TMNT has done yet. I rather like the horror influences in the series and I feel that if kids enjoy these episodes, it could be a gateway into the genre.

Disney did the same thing in their classic movies.

[Refractive Reflections]

Well there is a reason why the Nick show is rated "TV-Y7" rather than just "TV-Y":

Programs rated TV-Y7 are designed for children age 7 and older. The FCC implies that it "may be more appropriate for children who have acquired the developmental skills needed to distinguish between make-believe and reality."[10] The thematic elements portrayed in programs with this rating may include 'comedic violence', or may be frightening or confusing for children under the age of 7.

Programs given the "FV" content descriptor exhibit more 'fantasy violence',[10] and are generally more intense or combative than other programs rated TV-Y7.

...So I don't know why parents are complaining (if they are) when they have kids say around... 5 years old or younger being too terrified/scared of particular episodes. They were warned after all...

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Well there is a reason why the Nick show is rated "TV-Y7" rather than just "TV-Y":



...So I don't know why parents are complaining (if they are) when they have kids say around... 5 years old or younger being too terrified/scared of particular episodes. They were warned after all...

You know noone ever pays attention to that. Parents just see something animated so 'of course my 4 year old can see that'.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

You know noone ever pays attention to that. Parents just see something animated so 'of course my 4 year old can see that'.

Yeah, then some of those same parents wonder why their toddlers (2-5 years old) are terrified of going into bed or having nightmares, and start blaming the networks for "irresponsible" programming/material on the show rather than themselves for permitting their children to watch it. Oh brother... parents need to parent their children for pete's sake.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

You know noone ever pays attention to that. Parents just see something animated so 'of course my 4 year old can see that'.

They'll get a fright when they put Spawn TAS on.

[Lethal Lullaby]

yeah I think most kids nowadays can handle this kind of stuff. I mean sure it can get a bit unsettling, but shoot. Take cartoons like Invader Zim, Ren and Stimpy, and whatnot for instance. Especially Invader Zim This TMNT show isn't too bad with the horror in my view.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

I always thought Bevis and Butthead and Ren and Stimpy were way worse than Invader Zim lol Just struck me as odd that your "especially" was aimed at Zim.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

You know noone ever pays attention to that. Parents just see something animated so 'of course my 4 year old can see that'.

Same with video games, parents getting upset 'cus their kid is playing a game with graphic violence, explicit themes, nudity, drugs/alcohol, language etc. Well... it's rated M which means Mature. I think having the rating should void any complaint. Kinda like when you sign a wavier before doing something that could result in injury (like running a marathon and signing a wavier where you release the program from responsibilities because you're aware of the dangers).

[snake]

Invader Zim is messed up, and I'm not just talking about it's fanbase. That show was weird. Still fun to watch it though.

[pennydreadful]

Invader Zim is awesome; that stuff is a trip in the park compared to Johnny The Homicidal Maniac or I Feel Sick. Now those babies get hella dark. Though Nny's trip to Hell will never not crack me up.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by snake

Invader Zim is messed up, and I'm not just talking about it's fanbase. That show was weird. Still fun to watch it though.

Aw come on, it wasn't that weird. Then again I only saw a few episodes on MySpace like 8 years ago.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Aw come on, it wasn't that weird. Then again I only saw a few episodes on MySpace like 8 years ago.

It was pretty disgusting most of the time. Every time I watch that show, I felt the need to take a bath.

[Brooke507]

In my opinion, no, but then again, that's just me. There are worse things being shown on modern tv these days.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Invader Zim is awesome; that stuff is a trip in the park compared to Johnny The Homicidal Maniac or I Feel Sick. Now those babies get hella dark. Though Nny's trip to Hell will never not crack me up.

Squee was pretty dark as well. I somewhat recently sold my copies of JTHM and Squee trade paperbacks.z
Ironically one of my fav episodes of Zim is arguably one of the more controversial: the organ harvest episode.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Well there is a reason why the Nick show is rated "TV-Y7" rather than just "TV-Y":



...So I don't know why parents are complaining (if they are) when they have kids say around... 5 years old or younger being too terrified/scared of particular episodes. They were warned after all...

Heh, I've been watching adult oriented movies like slasher flicks, very violent action and mobster movies and very fowl mouthed comedies since before I could get out of my playpen. I turned out mostly alright.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

Squee was pretty dark as well. I somewhat recently sold my copies of JTHM and Squee trade paperbacks.z
Ironically one of my fav episodes of Zim is arguably one of the more controversial: the organ harvest episode.

*fist bump* Right on - Vasquez rocks. And what actually got him into being a comic artist in the first place was that he loved Eastman & Laird's TMNT comics.

In faaaaaaaact... have a thing:



I'd give my left nut for a Jhonen Vasquez run on TMNT.

[Luckyday]

Holy crap. Every episode would been a pizza face episode.

But I do like his sense of humor.

[snake]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

*fist bump* Right on - Vasquez rocks. And what actually got him into being a comic artist in the first place was that he loved Eastman & Laird's TMNT comics.

In faaaaaaaact... have a thing:

http://41.media.tumblr.com/b3baf38f1...6bcco1_500.png

I'd give my left nut for a Jhonen Vasquez run on TMNT.

Holy crap that's awesome. I'd love for him to do a short or a dream sequence of an episode or atleast something!