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Old 12-05-2014, 10:34 PM   #161
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Since we're prob stuck with the writers, can we get award winning screen writers to moonlight as editors for a minute, to give it a read over and tell these schmucks what is and isn't working.
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Old 12-05-2014, 10:53 PM   #162
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Good grief, why do I even bother here anymore? You guys make me feel like I'm naive child who doesn't know what she's talking about. So I try to see the silver lining here and there and you guys shoot down every chance. I know Bay's an ass; I know people make movies to make money; but I like to think SOME people are in the industry are trying to fight it. It might happen this time.
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:01 PM   #163
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Good grief, why do I even bother here anymore? You guys make me feel like I'm naive child who doesn't know what she's talking about. So I try to see the silver lining here and there and you guys shoot down every chance. I know Bay's an ass; I know people make movies to make money; but I like to think SOME people are in the industry are trying to fight it. It might happen this time.
...you're aware of what message boards are for right?

Discussion?

Nobody called you naive, nobody called you a child. You made points, and I made counter points. No one insulted you or belittled you in any way.
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:08 PM   #164
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...you're aware of what message boards are for right?

Discussion?

Nobody called you naive, nobody called you a child. You made points, and I made counter points. No one insulted you or belittled you in any way.
Yes yes, I know. Sorry for that; I should really NOT go on these things after 11 pm. I just hate negativity in general, I guess. I'm basically calling MYSELF a naive child because you made some good points as well.

Aside from the obvious flaws in the first movie, I did like how the Turtles were portrayed. There just wasn't ENOUGH of them, is all. I like Megan Fox as April fine, but only as a side character, not the main. I know mo-cap is expensive, but so was Tintin and that was done COMPLETELY in mo-cap. Then again, that movie had Jackson AND Spielburg behind it, plus really good writers collaborating three functioning stories into one plot. We just weren't lucky in that regards....
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:34 PM   #165
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I have a feeling that Shredder won't be back for THIS movie, but instead back by the third movie where Kraang and Shredder team up.
Nope, Fuller and Form confirmed that the Shredder character (but not the actor) would return in the sequel.
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:20 AM   #166
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Where does it say that Tohoru Masamune will not return?
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:33 AM   #167
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Where does it say that Tohoru Masamune will not return?
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Which I could take to mean that only Shredder the character will return and not the actor they got.

Wouldn't surprise me if they just got some dude. Because you can't tell who it is in the suit. So, to them, what does it matter?
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:43 AM   #168
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Ah, I see. Well, if they plan on having "Saki" be out of the suit again, I hope they keep the same guy. He was decent. Had the look, at least, & he seemed very happy to be a part of the film, unlike some of the other cast members.
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:50 AM   #169
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:02 AM   #170
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Ah, I see. Well, if they plan on having "Saki" be out of the suit again, I hope they keep the same guy. He was decent. Had the look, at least, & he seemed very happy to be a part of the film, unlike some of the other cast members.
Yeah. Wish they would have just gone with him originally.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:03 AM   #171
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So if he's not a fan of this crap movie than he can't be a Turtle Fan forever?
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:42 AM   #172
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So if he's not a fan of this crap movie than he can't be a Turtle Fan forever?
Anyways no, I thought it was ironic the way he bashed the movie and his screen name is Turtle Fan Forever. I just thought it was comical.
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:48 AM   #173
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Anyways no, I thought it was ironic the way he bashed the movie and his screen name is Turtle Fan Forever. I just thought it was comical.
well ironically some people say if you like the 2014 movie your not a real turtle fan. I have heard that here from a certain someone and on twitter from someone
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Old 12-06-2014, 03:18 AM   #174
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Anyways no, I thought it was ironic the way he bashed the movie and his screen name is Turtle Fan Forever. I just thought it was comical.
So that's a yes. Gotcha.

And look, some more irony being lost.
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Old 12-06-2014, 06:30 AM   #175
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Which is probably another reason why they got rid of Liebesman. Cutting costs.
Naw dude. They aren't getting rid of him they're moving him "UP".

He's taking over TF5 according to Variety. It was the plan all along. Bay wants to pass the franchise over to someone he knows will do exactly what he's done, without him having to do it. They guy is Bay's protégé. The whole snow-chase scene was a test to see if he could pull of an action sequence with vehicles and CG elements like Bay. That's it.

WME is in bed with Platinum Dunes.
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Green is a client of WME. He's the new "hotshot" for them. He's young, and well liked, so they're building his brand, while intentionally pulling from in house talent.

Watch the video he directed called Pinkberry: the movie (for WME). He actually roasts the agency, which they loved, so much so they paid to make a sequel of it called Staff Meeting Video: The Movie

They didn't replace Liebsman, right now, he's a big get for them. They're really happy, and they think he did well, saved the movie even, believe it of not.

Yes, they are that ****ing clueless.
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well ironically some people say if you like the 2014 movie your not a real turtle fan. I have heard that here from a certain someone and on twitter from someone
I think that is ridiculous. That like Laird or Eastman saying "Anyone who like the Fredwolf cartoons aren't fans of TMNT" Did I like the movie, no not really. The only part I can say they did extremely well is the fight scene between shredder and splinter.

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So that's a yes. Gotcha.

And look, some more irony being lost.
Bud just relax and take a chill pill.
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I mean, Liebesman himself said that the cg was so expensive that they had to cut Turtle time down considerably to keep costs down. And now they're thinking about ALSO adding Bebop and Rocksteady(probably also motion capture) and bringing in a new actor in Casey Jones?
Although to be fair, Casey Jones, a regular non-cgi human character will save them time and money. I'm sure the movie is gonna be 'What will Vernon do to prevent April from falling for the more macho bad boy Casey Jones' and you know.... the turtles are kinda sorta in it.... and Bebop and Rocksteady wave to the camera. Cut, print and done.
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Sooooooo makes you wish there was someone along the caliber of Jim Henson so we could afford to get real character development and and you know an 'actual' TMNT movie starring ...'the turtles'

You know it's kinda ironic that all this expensive cgi seems to be a backwards step for the franchise...it can't really be that expensive to have dialogue scenes in cgi can it???
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Prob cost in render time, all those dollars per hour. But if you can't 'shell' over the cash needed to do as much as needed to make it a Turtles movie, why even jump in there.

Suppose the sequel has one plus on budget next time, that being the Turtles, Splinter, and robo Shredder are already created. Granted they seem to want to add more... but if they stuck with just Bebop and Rocksteady as CGI additions that's at least four fewer on that part of the budget this time.
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Prob cost in render time, all those dollars per hour. But if you can't 'shell' over the cash needed to do as much as needed to make it a Turtles movie, why even jump in there.

Suppose the sequel has one plus on budget next time, that being the Turtles, Splinter, and robo Shredder are already created. Granted they seem to want to add more... but if they stuck with just Bebop and Rocksteady as CGI additions that's at least four fewer on that part of the budget this time.
The 1st film had 6 CGI characters, The Shredder was also Motion Capture as well, With the 2nd one, not only would you have the Shredder, but you would also have to add Bebop and Rocksteady, So you would have a total of 8 CGI characters in the next one, Unless, They decide to go practical with the Shredder since I would guess, his suit was heavily damaged after that fall.

Maybe even 9 CGI characters if they decide to add Krang into the mix.

If they wanna cut down on the budget, They should shoot all the Shredder scenes practically, That suit was probably damaged after he fell from that building, Maybe downgrade the suit, so that he doesn't have all the high tech stuff, It was only high tech because of the magnetic blades.
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