Dave Green in talks to direct TMNT 2

[Candy Kappa]

Honestly, they never appeared as teens for me, more like ambiguous fully but slightly immature adults, but not too old adults. Maybe late twenties, early thirties.

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, likewise. This movie pretty much had Mikey carry the entire "teen" thing. I could have easily believed the other three were well older than that.

It's been discussed before, but I still wouldn't mind if they were set more at 18/19 and by the time the sequel comes around they've hit 20s and the title drops the "teenage" part. (Though they already seem like 20s to me.)

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Yeah, likewise. This movie pretty much had Mikey carry the entire "teen" thing. I could have easily believed the other three were well older than that.

It's been discussed before, but I still wouldn't mind if they were set more at 18/19 and by the time the sequel comes around they've hit 20s and the title drops the "teenage" part. (Though they already seem like 20s to me.)

For the sequels, It would make sense for them to drop the Teenage in the title and just stick with Ninja Turtles, if the sequels show them being in there 20s.

[Chris]

Wasn't the teenage thing another thing they were dropping (back when they were aliens)? I know "Teenage Mutant" was only added back into the title after fan backlash. Wouldn't be surprised if they were planned/designed to be older and just added some dialogue about them being teens when fans (rightly) complained.

They basically wanted to make Young Adult Alien Ninja Turtles starring April & Casey with a big mech/robot fight at the end (originally Krang, ultimately Shredder). They just kept being forced to adapt due to fan backlash.

[Tora]

I wonder if they would go back to using rubber/latex suits and CGI'g their faces for the sequel instead of doing all CGI again??

It might save on some of the costs and they can still do big CGI stunts for action scenes if they need to. I could be way off with that seeing how real turtles suit footage turned CGI might stick out like a sore thumb.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I highly doubt they'll make new CGI models of the turtles, new gear... Maybe.

The models are well enough crafted that they could easily last at least two more sequels. If you're smart, you make the CG models for the sequel, it's what they did when making the Hulk in The Incredible Hulk, their aim was to make the model usable for the sequel and a future Avengers movie. Of course Marvel Studios got a new cgi model for the Hulk to reflect Ruffalo, but the Incredible Hulk cgi model was tremendously impressive, especially from showreels where they showed how much work there was into the muscle work and how the skin moved over the muscles and simulating blood flow and all that incredible stuff.

Do you have a link to the Incredible Hulk show reel simulating blood flow?

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Do you have a link to the Incredible Hulk show reel simulating blood flow?

No, it was shown during a Animex presentation back in 09 or 2010. Together with a short presentation about Irom Man, and the differences on working on fantasy creatures like the Transformers where they didn't need to worry about volume and size of the creature when the transformed, compared to the Iron Man suit where it had to be based in reality. Like weaponry had to look believable and small enough to fit inside the suit. And a lot about the texture work they did on Iron Man.

The Hulk presentation was mostly about just the cgi model, how it was constructedand that it was rigged to do "anything". Even Hulk out from different points of the body, like one foot growing and the rest of the body follows.

The most impressive part was close-ups of the model flexing his muscles, particularly his back, as it look really impressive and just like a skin tight bodybuilder's body would act when flexing.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

No, it was shown during a Animex presentation back in 09 or 2010. Together with a short presentation about Irom Man, and the differences on working on fantasy creatures like the Transformers where they didn't need to worry about volume and size of the creature when the transformed, compared to the Iron Man suit where it had to be based in reality. Like weaponry had to look believable and small enough to fit inside the suit. And a lot about the texture work they did on Iron Man.

The Hulk presentation was mostly about just the cgi model, how it was constructedand that it was rigged to do "anything". Even Hulk out from different points of the body, like one foot growing and the rest of the body follows.

The most impressive part was close-ups of the model flexing his muscles, particularly his back, as it look really impressive and just like a skin tight bodybuilder's body would act when flexing.

It's funny, cause in the movie, it looked like the hulks diffuse stretched too much, the displacement looked wonky in certain poses, almost asthough it was a bump map instead, and the muscle deformations felt wrong, specifically the hulk out.

I felt the Avengers hulk nailed the look and feel, and was closest to how I would imagine the hulk would look like in reality. The hulk to me is a case of 3 movies to get it right, but will be hard to top. I prefer this hulk to Lou's even.

I still felt the "I'm always angry" transformation was kinda weak.

He still didn't look real, but he was somewhat believable.
I really didn't care for the avengers as a film, but I couldn't help buying a ticket just to see the hulk. There were some really impressive moments with him.

[Candy Kappa]

Despite me gushing over Incredible Hulk's cgi model, the Avengers one is even more impressive.

But, what i really like with Incredible, is the lengths they took with making the model. They had little to go from script-wise what the model had to be able to do, and they took it an extra mile by making sure it could be reused for a sequel (which didn't happen). A lot of care was made into it.

same goes for Iron man, the director of the first movie, according to the guys having the Animex presentation, hated CGI effects and wanted to use practical effects and suits as much as possible. But when he saw a finished test scene with the CGI model, he was blown away how better it looked compared to the suit they had ready.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Despite me gushing over Incredible Hulk's cgi model, the Avengers one is even more impressive.

But, what i really like with Incredible, is the lengths they took with making the model. They had little to go from script-wise what the model had to be able to do, and they took it an extra mile by making sure it could be reused for a sequel (which didn't happen). A lot of care was made into it.

same goes for Iron man, the director of the first movie, according to the guys having the Animex presentation, hated CGI effects and wanted to use practical effects and suits as much as possible. But when he saw a finished test scene with the CGI model, he was blown away how better it looked compared to the suit they had ready.

I'll admit, I like the Incredible hulk over his Ang Lee predecessor, but while impressive at the time, it doesn't really hold up the way that, say, Optimus and bone crusher do in the 1st TF movie. I'd still argue that sequence looks better than any of the follow ups. I can't really figure out why. My guess is that they have abandoned the Monte Carlo render in favor of a more cost effective solution, resulting in less physically accurate renders, but still passible for the general public. I felt the cg of Maleficent is the worst offender this year from this, but I'm sure there are others.

[newhire13]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I really didn't care for the avengers as a film, but I couldn't help buying a ticket just to see the hulk. There were some really impressive moments with him.

He was easily the break out character of the movie. A shame outside of Avenger movies nobody knows what to do with him.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by newhire13

He was easily the break out character of the movie. A shame outside of Avenger movies nobody knows what to do with him.

True enough. I don't think either of the Hulk films were all that bad just, different. Better than TMNTPD for sure.

Must be the green; they don't know how to make a good film about green foilks. I think it's a racial thing.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Must be the green; they don't know how to make a good film about green foilks. I think it's a racial thing.

A dialogue must be opened, Hollywood must become more sensitive and respectful to how it portrays green people!

[B-Man]

Screen Junkies had a fun talk (starting minute 37) about Dave Green, the first movie & who they want in the sequel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw1n...lDls9Z6GERVi1A