Does Anybody Actually Like Justin Beiber?

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

I ask because he seems the celebrity everybody loves to hate, and I don't mean just here.

[Donatello19]

I'm pretty sure the majority of his fans are just pre-teen girls...

[snake]

Pretty sure he's not relevant any more.

[DarkFell]

He does have talent but he could be doing better to improve on said talent instead of being controversy canon due to his dipsh*t antics.
Otherwise I don't like nor hate him.

[Guitar_Raph]

Only when he plays instruments. He's a super drummer & southpaw guitarist!

Let's Make A Deal even made him a ZONK! prize. They show these forest animals going into a dam, a rock band playing & out pops the superstar (Justin BEAVER) singing "Brady, Brady, Brady, ahh!"

[Brooke507]

No, I think he's too full of himself

[pennydreadful]

Justin Beiber likes Justin Beiber.

[Powder]

No, his millions of fans are all cold-blooded liars. Of course people like him, hence his fame & money.

Do I, personally, like him? No. But I'm also not a fan of hate bandwagons so I'm not gonna go out of my way to bash him.

& not for nothin' but on a TMNT forum full of perverted dark-minded adults, you'd be hard-pressed to find the type to love a mainstream pop artist.

...then again this is coming from a 6'3 bearded menace of counter-culture whose avatar is of a Japanese pop star. What do I know?

[IndigoErth]

Of course someone likes him.

His parents. I assume.


I don't waste much time giving that kid much thought, mostly just when the news forces me to hear how ever he's acted like an arrogant little twerp yet again. Go home, Beiber, you're... something or other.

[Davetello]

I absolutely adore the guy in comparison to Harry Styles, Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney.

[BubblyShell22]

I've never liked him and never will.

[Leo656]

I don't like the way he conducts himself and I don't care for his music, but what I don't get, and will NEVER understand, is the slavish devotion he gets from his fans. Give ya a perfect example of what I mean.

When I used to be a mover, I was packing this girl's bedroom once and their was this giant shrine to Bieber on her wall, all these pictures and stuff, and attached to the largest poster was this goofy hand-written letter. This girl was maybe 11, and she just went on and on about how madly in love she was with him and how "perfect" he was and would do anything to meet him, that she knew they were "perfect" for each other, that she was keeping a copy of the letter so that one day when they were together they would each have one to look back on, like... just so eye-rolling. That's just the stuff I remember. It kinda went on.

I don't get it. It's not just about him, either, I don't get why girls act like that. Far as I know, guys don't. We all have our crushes but I don't think to that degree. My niece was a huge tomboy until she discovered One Direction; now she wears make-up and listens to boy bands and doesn't even care about TMNT anymore (and how much ya think THAT pisses me off?).

Any girls care to extrapolate on why this happens? Like, do you "fall in love" with whoever the first guy is to make you have to change your underpants or something? Because I didn't send Winona Ryder a marriage proposal after I saw "Beetlejuice", I just bitched I wasn't old enough to nail her. I've never understood how girls fall - and HARD - for these manufactured celebrity boy band types. Like, a lot of girls know and are fully aware that it's all a scheme designed exactly for that purpose - "You think these guys are pretty, right? Well give us all your money and plaster their pouty faces all over your room/locker/everything! We know it's not about their sterile and meaningless 'music', you just like how they get you moist. Don't worry, we won't tell." And yet, even girls who are aware they are being manipulated still often partake.

I think why some people get so violently angry about Bieber, boy bands,etc., is that we really don't want to think girls are that stupid, but circumstances say otherwise. That's my angle.

[Lethal Lullaby]

Don't really care for Bieber, or many boy band types. Especially not to the point where I feel like I'm infatuated by them and need everything/anything related to them. Of course there are famous male icons that I did find attractive, but I try to avoid fangirling over them. Actually I think I just have a temporary crush then get over it. For instance I used to watch Tosh.o whenever I could because I just admired him so much, and I can't remember the last time I've watched the show now. It may sound odd, but if there's one thing I probably overly care about it is the TMNT. And as much as I do wish they were actual living beings, they're just fictional characters, so yeah... Haha but I don't get it either, how some girls can get so excited about these guys like Bieber, or One Direction.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Powder

No, his millions of fans are all cold-blooded liars. Of course people like him, hence his fame & money.

This...

If he was irrelevant he wouldn't have been news for several years and no one would even bother hating him.

I personally couldn't care less about him.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I don't get it. It's not just about him, either, I don't get why girls act like that. Far as I know, guys don't. We all have our crushes but I don't think to that degree. My niece was a huge tomboy until she discovered One Direction; now she wears make-up and listens to boy bands and doesn't even care about TMNT anymore (and how much ya think THAT pisses me off?).

Any girls care to extrapolate on why this happens? Like, do you "fall in love" with whoever the first guy is to make you have to change your underpants or something? Because I didn't send Winona Ryder a marriage proposal after I saw "Beetlejuice", I just bitched I wasn't old enough to nail her. I've never understood how girls fall - and HARD - for these manufactured celebrity boy band types. Like, a lot of girls know and are fully aware that it's all a scheme designed exactly for that purpose - "You think these guys are pretty, right? Well give us all your money and plaster their pouty faces all over your room/locker/everything! We know it's not about their sterile and meaningless 'music', you just like how they get you moist. Don't worry, we won't tell." And yet, even girls who are aware they are being manipulated still often partake.

I think why some people get so violently angry about Bieber, boy bands,etc., is that we really don't want to think girls are that stupid, but circumstances say otherwise. That's my angle.

I've said the same for years. I and guys I know don't obsess over female celebrities, in fact it tends to be girls who love boy bands AND girl bands. They sycophantically suck up to celebrities who they've never even met, it's celebrity culture in action. I've said before that teenage girls are the biggest bandwagon jumping demographic on the planet. They're total sheep, and Simon Cowell knows this (there are exceptions of course, see LL above). One girl starts liking a celebrity and the rest join in in order to fit in. And they try and tell us that girls are more mature than boys LOL.

The strange thing about One Direction though is that most of them aren't even good looking. The Asian guy has model-like facial features, granted. He's really good looking. But the blond looks like a far less attractive version of Ellen Degeneres, the dark-haired one whose eyes are too far apart isn't good looking, the one with the shaved head just looks like a fat chav, and Harry Styles...oh Harry Styles. If you actually look at his face, he doesn't have attractive features in the slightest - his eye area is strange, his jaw is far too weak and nowhere near chiselled, he has a strange, fat looking nose, his forehead is too high, his ears look funny, and overall he just looks like an 8 year old girl. He's probably the worst looking of all five of them, yet he has most fangirls. I find it laughable. I've said before that Harry Styles is the most overrated human being I have ever seen, in terms of looks (by those who like him).

That's before we get into the fact that they're all talentless. Furthermore, if you ever see them interviewed (don't ask) they seem like inarticulate morons. It's clear that they have very few qualifications or brains between them, and that if they hadn't fluked fame they'd be lucky to get any type of job. Yet deluded teenagers and desperate older women treat them like they're something special. it's staggering. They have very few redeeming features. They're just a bunch of regular teenage boys who got lucky with fame.

There are loads of famous guys who are better looking than they are. There are loads of regular guys walking the streets who are better looking than they are. They're completely unremarkable. BUT, they've been forced down so many people's throats that they've become fashionable to like for some.

Money, fame and celebrity does a lot for people. It's the same with David Beckham and Cristiano Ronaldo. Beckham was quite a good looking man when he was younger, but there were plenty of better looking footballers, particularly those from Italy. The thing is though that they weren't media whores so Beckham was considered the best looking footballer because people who didn't even like or know about football knew who he was. They had never heard of Fabio Cannavaro, or Paolo Maldini or Luis Figo, all comfortably better looking men. The same is true of Cristiano Ronaldo now - you get some sycophantic females and man-crush indulging men acting like he's the best looking footballer. But that's only because he's one of the very best and most famous footballers. The truth is that there are plenty of far better looking players - it's just that they're nowhere near as good or famous as he is. Yoann Gourcuff and Roque Santa Cruz are both far better looking than CR, but neither of them are anywhere near him in terms of talent or fame so people who don't follow football/soccer wouldn't give a toss about them.

What I'm saying overall is that some of these famous 'babes and heart throbs' genuinely are attractive, and would receive attention physically even if they were random people working in a random town. But a fair number of them tend to be quite overrated because of their position.

In saying all of this, I know and have seen far more people insult One Direction than praise them, so I'm guessing it's just a minority who likes them, in the grand scheme of things. As for Cristiano Ronaldo, practically every female I know in real life (which is a fair number) and on the internet thinks he's a major turn-off. I asked them about this and they all say "he's certainly not my cup of tea" or worse.

[Lethal Lullaby]

Originally Posted by Davetello

and Harry Styles...oh Harry Styles. If you actually look at his face, he doesn't have attractive features in the slightest - his eye area is strange, his jaw is far too weak and nowhere near chiselled, he has a strange, fat looking nose, his forehead is too high, his ears look funny, and overall he just looks like an 8 year old girl. He's probably the worst looking of all five of them, yet he has most fangirls. I find it laughable. I've said before that Harry Styles is the most overrated human being I have ever seen, in terms of looks (by those who like him).

He also has four nipples. How do I know this? Well I got bored one night and decided to look through celebrities with deformities.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Lethal Lullaby

He also has four nipples. How do I know this? Well I got bored one night and decided to look through celebrities with deformities.

Lol.

Listen, despite what I said earlier about him, I certainly don't think it's right to attack people for their physical characteristics. They can't control it. However, when someone is being vastly, vastly overrated then something really has to be said. If these deluded teen girls were more realistic about his actual attractiveness level then I wouldn't have to talk about how overrated he is by them.

But yeah, he's the most overrated person I've ever seen in the looks department. I'm completely baffled by his appeal (actually, I'm not, money and fame), and I know there are many, many people who feel similarly. He's probably a pr!ck who believes his own hype anyway, so fvck him.

[tmntpower1988]

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Any girls care to extrapolate on why this happens? Like, do you "fall in love" with whoever the first guy is to make you have to change your underpants or something? Because I didn't send Winona Ryder a marriage proposal after I saw "Beetlejuice", I just bitched I wasn't old enough to nail her. I've never understood how girls fall - and HARD - for these manufactured celebrity boy band types. Like, a lot of girls know and are fully aware that it's all a scheme designed exactly for that purpose - "You think these guys are pretty, right? Well give us all your money and plaster their pouty faces all over your room/locker/everything! We know it's not about their sterile and meaningless 'music', you just like how they get you moist. Don't worry, we won't tell." And yet, even girls who are aware they are being manipulated still often partake.

Originally Posted by Davetello

I've said the same for years. I and guys I know don't obsess over female celebrities, in fact it tends to be girls who love boy bands AND girl bands. They sycophantically suck up to celebrities who they've never even met, it's celebrity culture in action. I've said before that teenage girls are the biggest bandwagon jumping demographic on the planet. They're total sheep, and Simon Cowell knows this (there are exceptions of course, see LL above). One girl starts liking a celebrity and the rest join in in order to fit in. And they try and tell us that girls are more mature than boys LOL.

The boy-band worship thing is a combination of numerous factors.

Number one - teenagers, regardless of gender, are idiots.

Number two - the desire to fit in is extremely high at that age; again, regardless of gender, though social ostracism amongst teenage girls can be particularly cruel. It's an incontrovertible facet of human nature to want to belong to a group, and when you're at an age where you're not self-actualized, of course you're going to mimic socially approved behaviors within your peer group so you don't end up being the loser who has to eat lunch in the bathroom cuz nobody will sit with them.

Number three - girls are socialized to link romance with sex.

Number four - celebrity worship is pretty much part of the cultural narrative at this point. Do I agree with it? No. But it's in all of our entertainment and marketing, and as such, we're breathing it in whether we realize it or not. People who consider themselves reasonable may not plaster their walls with hot, sexy pinups, but they still know who these people are, and they'll still choose to see or not see a movie based on the actor who's in it.

Number five - Teen girls are vulnerable to marketing, and part of that is linked to self-image. Studies have been done which show that girls with poor body image are heavily invested in celebrity worship; this tends to drop off as they reach their late teens. It's a fairly easy thought process to follow when you've seen it from the "girl side" of the fence. "Celebrity X is hot. I know this because the magazines say so, and Celebrity X is popular and I want to be popular. Celebrity X will now be the barometer by which I judge attractiveness, as this is what I'm told is hot." Is it shallow? Sure. But that's what's rammed down girls' throats from day dot; you need to look at the disease, not just the symptom.

The media has been affecting the behavior of both men and women for decades. It shapes our ideas of what masculinity and femininity should be, and not simply in the context of appearance, but in terms of how one should act, what one should be drawn to, what the definition of success is, what you should like, what you should be afraid of.

There's a bigger picture to take into consideration - not just how media and consumer culture affects tween and teen girls, but how it affects all of us.

Sources: http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rc...81828268,d.dGc

http://dspace.library.uvic.ca:8080/b...pdf?sequence=1

[Cure]

Some of his songs are catchy and cool with me. As a person, though, he seems like a dook butt.

The love he gets is a little extreme, but so is the hate he gets. Hating someone just for making music you don't like is retarded.