Interview With Michael Bay: Talks About Problems With TMNT - Page 5

*Autbot_Benz* · 12-18-2014, 08:53 PM

I hope Bay does Voltron next that would look awesome. Hope he does He Man and Thundercats too.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-18-2014, 08:55 PM

Thaaaaaat's it. Get out.

Or go to your room. Or go to bed. Go sit in the corner. Something. PUNISH YOURSELF, FOR I DON'T HAVE THE TIME.

Casey · 12-18-2014, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656

I don't think you read it right, sam. I think you entirely read it backwards, actually.

Firstly, anyone and everyone can entirely stop with "Bay had nothing to do with it", because there it is in black and white, the buck on this thing stopped with him. SO, no more "Bay had nothing to do with it" nonsense from anyone. PLEASE. There it is. He made the Big Calls. That's straight from The Man himself.

Secondly... uhhh, they originally wanted to do a "brooding action movie for an older audience" and Bay said they needed more comedy and fart jokes. Bay said that the ORIGINAL tone was wrong - the brooding action movie tone - not the tone of the movie we actually got. What we GOT, is what he thinks was the RIGHT way to do the movie, and thus, we can expect more of the same next time out.

The only "mistakes" Bay apparently "learned from", are, "We Need More Of Teh Funny!"

F*ck that guy in the mouth. Seriously.

Just... just no more godddamn movies, please. I'm an old man, my heart can't take the strain.

YES. All of this.

*Shark_Blade* · 12-18-2014, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

I hope Bay does Voltron next that would look awesome. Hope he does He Man and Thundercats too.

I'm curious how they'd do Thundercats.

He-Man, I think we recently had a movie about that already.. oh wait, that's Conan the barbarian. I never distinguish the two, it seems like the same thing to me.

Never heard of Voltron though.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-18-2014, 09:43 PM

.....................

*Autbot_Benz* · 12-18-2014, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I'm curious how they'd do Thundercats.

He-Man, I think we recently had a movie about that already.. oh wait, that's Conan the barbarian. I never distinguish the two, it seems like the same thing to me.

Never heard of Voltron though.

Voltron is an cartoon that features a team of space explorers that pilot a giant super robot known as "Voltron which is made up of 5 mighty lions.

**Jester** · 12-18-2014, 10:04 PM

Man, season 2 of the Nick series must have been lost on you, Sharky, eh?

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 12-18-2014, 10:08 PM

THIS is Voltron:

http://www.voltron.com/images/uploads/Lion-Force.jpg

http://www.toonopolis.com/wp-content...6040904540.jpg

http://www.actionfigurepics.com/wp-c...06/Voltron.jpg

These are the pilots:

http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-co...18-voltron.jpg

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...Franchesco.jpg

*IndigoErth* · 12-18-2014, 10:18 PM

Yeah, he should prob do Voltron. Robot-like so they can just use some of their same formula. (Ok, and I wasn't too tightly attached to that series either so if they messed it up I'd prob not know any better.) I'm placing my bets though on He-Man. AND I bet they'd include She-Ra in a He-Man movie. I can't see the likes of Bay doing a movie focused on a largely naked muscle man without adding in a woman for the camera to ogle. (Has to keep his masculinity in check after all.)

Thundercats worries me how that design and/or costuming would turn out.

*DarkFell* · 12-18-2014, 10:26 PM

He-Man and She-Ra were siblings in the cartoon. So there better not be any naughty action coming from those two...

*IndigoErth* · 12-18-2014, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFell

He-Man and She-Ra were siblings in the cartoon. So there better not be any naughty action coming from those two...

Lets just hope the film makers would research at least enough to know that. And not just, say, look at pictures. Can't imagine the media drama if they screwed that up... but it would be epic.

*Metalwolf* · 12-18-2014, 10:41 PM

Don't worry, he'll probably retch-con it so they aren't. Or... he'll keep them as siblings and just do it for the 'shock value.'

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 06:00 AM

*Candy Kappa* · 12-19-2014, 07:01 AM

Megan Fox as She-Ra, a CGI'd Shia LaBeouf as He-Man.

together they must conquer true love to unlock the awesome power of the Sword of He. And by love I mean dry humping sex...

And Orko ate the whole plate, THE WHOLE PLATE!

Hannurdock · 12-19-2014, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656

I had a kids' storybook once where they were fighting a group of bad guys, and Leo does some kinda move, and Raph calls him out, like, "That wasn't ninjitsu! That was karate!" or something like that.

Your comment made me think of it.

I remember reading that line!

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 07:42 AM

Yeah, I gotta find those. I had four of them, they came out around 1989, I used to read them all the time but haven't in years. I can't even remember the titles, except for "Six-Guns And Shurikens", where they found a Genie's lamp and accidentally went back in time to the Old West. There was another one where they helped April try to find Atlantis and tried to stop Shredder from discovering it, along with its "advanced technology' or some such... one where they had to fight Shredder in outer space... and the one I mentioned earlier, where they teamed up with a team of martial arts-trained squirrels to find a bunch of golden acorns or something.

They were great.

I loved those books because although being set ostensibly in the cartoon universe, the storytelling was much more "mature" and a little bit "darker" than what one might expect from a product based on the OT. Like, "damn" and "hell" were fairly prevalent throughout all four books, with references to the Turtles or other characters using other swear words that were left up to the reader's imagination, and the fight scenes were written as less slapstick and more violent. Each book had several illustrations, done in the OT art style, and many OT characters like Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang and Leatherhead showed up.

They were really neat. Perfect for an 8-year-old kid who loved TMNT but preferred the first film's tone over the cartoon by then. Those books were like a mix of both. Really good stuff.

EDIE: Was able to find a picture of the cover of "Six-Guns and Shurikens" but not the others yet.

Spoiler:

Ahh, this takes me back.

EDIT 2: Apparently, the other books were "Red Herrings", "Sky High", and "Buried Treasure", all written by Dave Morris, and there were other ones I didn't have. Son of a... now I gotta hunt them down.

*BubblyShell22* · 12-19-2014, 08:01 AM

Those books sound awesome, Leo. The most I remember is we had a Ninja Turtles coloring book that was based on "Rat Trap" where the Mousers attacked Splinter.

And, no, I don't want Bay to touch anything else. He's just tainted.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 08:04 AM

Found 'em all on Amazon pretty easy if you want 'em, including the two I never had. I know what I'm getting for myself soon.

http://www.amazon.com/Herrings-Teena.../dp/0440403901

I remember a ton of the kids' storybooks and coloring books and whatnot from back then. A lot of it was set in the OT universe but was actually of much better storytelling quality. I credit a lot of the "expanded media" for keeping me invested when I was kind of getting bored of the cartoon right around then.

Hannurdock · 12-19-2014, 08:07 AM

I have them all, I'll post pictures of the covers.

I've had a look but the only reference to karate in Buried Treasure was about them all trying different forms of martial arts. Raph calls out Donny who claims to be using karate techniques but ends up using a judo one instead. I'll post it below;

Spoiler:

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 08:09 AM

Good show, much obliged.

I still give myself credit for working solely from memory. I have not even seen those books since about 1995 and not actually read them since maybe 1993, and other than "in storage", I have ZERO idea where they are! So I think I did pretty good, considering, eh?

And you have them all. WITH covers. Jealous. I got 'em from my sister, who worked at a bookstore, and she would "accidentally" tear covers off of books so she could get them for free for me. One of the best surprise gifts I ever got.

And any of those books put to film would be better than anything we're getting now. Y'know... just to be semi-on-topic.

12-18-2014, 08:53 PM	#81
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,190	I hope Bay does Voltron next that would look awesome. Hope he does He Man and Thundercats too. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

12-18-2014, 10:04 PM	#87
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Man, season 2 of the Nick series must have been lost on you, Sharky, eh? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

12-18-2014, 10:08 PM	#88
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	THIS is Voltron: http://www.voltron.com/images/uploads/Lion-Force.jpg http://www.toonopolis.com/wp-content...6040904540.jpg http://www.actionfigurepics.com/wp-c...06/Voltron.jpg These are the pilots: http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-co...18-voltron.jpg http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...Franchesco.jpg __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

12-19-2014, 07:01 AM	#94
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Megan Fox as She-Ra, a CGI'd Shia LaBeouf as He-Man. together they must conquer true love to unlock the awesome power of the Sword of He. And by love I mean dry humping sex... And Orko ate the whole plate, THE WHOLE PLATE! __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

12-19-2014, 07:42 AM	#96
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, I gotta find those. I had four of them, they came out around 1989, I used to read them all the time but haven't in years. I can't even remember the titles, except for "Six-Guns And Shurikens", where they found a Genie's lamp and accidentally went back in time to the Old West. There was another one where they helped April try to find Atlantis and tried to stop Shredder from discovering it, along with its "advanced technology' or some such... one where they had to fight Shredder in outer space... and the one I mentioned earlier, where they teamed up with a team of martial arts-trained squirrels to find a bunch of golden acorns or something. They were great. I loved those books because although being set ostensibly in the cartoon universe, the storytelling was much more "mature" and a little bit "darker" than what one might expect from a product based on the OT. Like, "damn" and "hell" were fairly prevalent throughout all four books, with references to the Turtles or other characters using other swear words that were left up to the reader's imagination, and the fight scenes were written as less slapstick and more violent. Each book had several illustrations, done in the OT art style, and many OT characters like Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang and Leatherhead showed up. They were really neat. Perfect for an 8-year-old kid who loved TMNT but preferred the first film's tone over the cartoon by then. Those books were like a mix of both. Really good stuff. EDIE: Was able to find a picture of the cover of "Six-Guns and Shurikens" but not the others yet. Spoiler: Ahh, this takes me back. EDIT 2: Apparently, the other books were "Red Herrings", "Sky High", and "Buried Treasure", all written by Dave Morris, and there were other ones I didn't have. Son of a... now I gotta hunt them down. Last edited by Leo656; 12-19-2014 at 07:52 AM.

12-18-2014, 08:55 PM	#82
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Thaaaaaat's it. Get out. Or go to your room. Or go to bed. Go sit in the corner. Something. PUNISH YOURSELF, FOR I DON'T HAVE THE TIME.

12-18-2014, 09:43 PM	#85
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	.....................

12-18-2014, 10:18 PM	#89
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	Yeah, he should prob do Voltron. Robot-like so they can just use some of their same formula. (Ok, and I wasn't too tightly attached to that series either so if they messed it up I'd prob not know any better.) I'm placing my bets though on He-Man. AND I bet they'd include She-Ra in a He-Man movie. I can't see the likes of Bay doing a movie focused on a largely naked muscle man without adding in a woman for the camera to ogle. (Has to keep his masculinity in check after all.) Thundercats worries me how that design and/or costuming would turn out.

12-18-2014, 10:41 PM	#92
Metalwolf Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,563	Don't worry, he'll probably retch-con it so they aren't. Or... he'll keep them as siblings and just do it for the 'shock value.'

12-19-2014, 06:00 AM	#93
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703

12-19-2014, 08:01 AM	#97
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Those books sound awesome, Leo. The most I remember is we had a Ninja Turtles coloring book that was based on "Rat Trap" where the Mousers attacked Splinter. And, no, I don't want Bay to touch anything else. He's just tainted. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

12-19-2014, 08:04 AM	#98
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Found 'em all on Amazon pretty easy if you want 'em, including the two I never had. I know what I'm getting for myself soon. http://www.amazon.com/Herrings-Teena.../dp/0440403901 I remember a ton of the kids' storybooks and coloring books and whatnot from back then. A lot of it was set in the OT universe but was actually of much better storytelling quality. I credit a lot of the "expanded media" for keeping me invested when I was kind of getting bored of the cartoon right around then.

12-19-2014, 08:07 AM	#99
Hannurdock Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 236	I have them all, I'll post pictures of the covers. I've had a look but the only reference to karate in Buried Treasure was about them all trying different forms of martial arts. Raph calls out Donny who claims to be using karate techniques but ends up using a judo one instead. I'll post it below; Spoiler: BURIED TREASURE - Page 69 "Nice moves, dude," Leonardo called out as he knocked down a kidnapper with the flat of his sword. "Don't use your guns, idiots!" shrieked the leader to his men. "You're most likely to hit one of your own team. Show these freaks the karate I taught you." "Karate!" cried Donatello happily. "That's our kind of rumble." He threw his quarterstaff like a javelin and it hit a kidnapper right in the midriff. He went flying backwards with his arms windmilling wildly and bowled over another two. They lay in a heap, groaning, as the leader raced forward and angrily launched a karate kick at Donatello's head. Donatello twisted round and leant forward slightly so that the kick landed on the back of his shell. As his opponent's foot skidded across the shell, he turned and grabbed the outstretched leg and threw the man over his shoulder. He struck the marble floor of the hall with terrific impact and slumped unconscious. "Aww, you cheated, Don," said Raphael as he punched his own opponent. "That was more like judo than karate." __________________ *Try to be like the turtle ... at ease in your own shell.*

12-19-2014, 08:09 AM	#100
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Good show, much obliged. I still give myself credit for working solely from memory. I have not even seen those books since about 1995 and not actually read them since maybe 1993, and other than "in storage", I have ZERO idea where they are! So I think I did pretty good, considering, eh? And you have them all. WITH covers. Jealous. I got 'em from my sister, who worked at a bookstore, and she would "accidentally" tear covers off of books so she could get them for free for me. One of the best surprise gifts I ever got. And any of those books put to film would be better than anything we're getting now. Y'know... just to be semi-on-topic.