TMNT 2 Starts Filming in April in NYC! - Page 2

*IndigoErth* · 01-14-2015, 05:02 PM

Prepare yourselves... TWWII is coming.

*pennydreadful* · 01-14-2015, 05:05 PM

Yeah... I mean, I'm not pooh-poohing the idea just for the sake of being negative; it just seems to me that they're throwing in all the stuff that they wanted to do in the first place with the Blue Door script, rather than sitting down and thinking about what a logical continuation from the story we currently have would be.

As I've said previously, we've already got Sachs and Shredder, plus Baxter waiting in the wings, and maybe Karai (unless she vanishes for the sequel). I can't imagine that they'd put Bebop and Rocksteady in and not include Shredder, and given Fichtner's three-movie contract, I don't see them putting him on the shelf for a sequel. So we're basically at 4 villains already for the second movie - two of whom are dumb henchmen and the other two of whom aren't properly fleshed out because they were both supposed to be the same character in the first place.

To my mind, it would've made more sense to just do something interesting with Fichtner for a sequel, and leave Bebop and Rocksteady out of it. Their inclusion just seems like blatant "Oooh, fans like X... so let's put X in the movie just so they'll pay to see it!", without thinking about the big picture.

I mean, if they wanted big action slamfests with mutant-on-mutant for the sequel, there's no reason that they couldn't mutate Fichtner. I don't see why he needs to stay human - he's basically just Rich Evil Human dude, and he doesn't even serve any purpose as their frontman for public relations after his involvement in the events of the first movie. Mutate him into a giant super-freak and make him big enough that it's going to take all four of the Turtles working together to bring him down.

*NinjaPug* · 01-14-2015, 05:19 PM

Really quick turnaround for a group that didn't have a set plan for the franchise. Good thing there are some talented writers/producers involved......

*Galactus* · 01-14-2015, 05:27 PM

"we'll convert you".

I think it's funny they anticipate that people hated the movie. They know the score.

Anyhoo the day the start is going to be a sad day for TMNT fans.

B-Man · 01-14-2015, 05:34 PM

This film is all about Bebop & Rocksteady, for me. They're the main event of this sequel. I'm confident they'll be a blast. Casey Jones worries me cause I have the feeling they're gonna cast him wrong, I don't want even more focus put on humans & his inclusion could just equal that cringey "romance" sh*t that the Transformers films are filled with.

ScrewtheMirageTMNT · 01-14-2015, 05:37 PM

I like this because it means that we'll see leaked stuff sooner than much later.

*Autbot_Benz* · 01-14-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

"we'll convert you".

I think it's funny they anticipate that people hated the movie. They know the score.

Anyhoo the day the start is going to be a sad day for TMNT fans.

Speak for yourself plenty of tmnt fans excited for the sequel here and other places

~~Leo656~~ · 01-14-2015, 08:17 PM

And some people say "Dawn of Justice" is being rushed.

~~Leo656~~ · 01-14-2015, 08:33 PM

What's funny to me is, some of the same people who think Dawn of Justice is going to be rushed and crammed are completely behind this project. I'm not saying just here, it's lots of places. It just goes to show you how some people don't really know how to process information.

How they're going to make a "better movie" by doubling-down on all the stuff that ruined the first one is a serious mystery to me. I doubt the studio is going to allow twice the budget to accommodate twice as much CGI, for example. Or add another hour to the runtime to make room for all these new characters AND give us more of the Turtles, as some people are so positively certain is going to happen.

Fact is, it's either going to be 2 hours and 15 minutes MINIMUM on a $300 million budget, or it's gonna be a rushed hack job. Just math, homies. Just math.

*IndigoErth* · 01-14-2015, 09:23 PM

Just basking in the faint, dim glow of what tiny crumbs exist of willfully faked naive optimism... at least until something leaks that makes 3/4 of the community go "Oh, ****."

Does make me a little concerned that it starts production so soon, that damn script better be amazing. Although on the plus side, I suppose starting so soon gives them more room for error, and appropriately tweaking it in a way that works better (rather than a half assed patched up job), should any truly bad ideas get leaked to the public.

I do look forward to seeing how Bebop and Rocksteady turn out though. Seeing as I'm not really attached to them, but I know some are, including I'm sure some that were very in support and defensive of the first film. If they screw those two up... eek. But I'll just grab the popcorn and watch the debates. lol

~~Leo656~~ · 01-14-2015, 09:29 PM

Calling it now, they're going with the "Do we really NEED a script?" method. They know they have a "win" just by having Bebop and Rocksteady in it. They've already sold people. Nothing else they do means anything.

They'll write some stuff down, I'm sure, but they're not going to spend a whole lot of time on it, because they don't have a lot of time. Most of it will probably come from stuff they threw out the first couple times, when they were working on the last one. That's what usually happens.

Which is whatever, that's the business. But anyone who thinks they're putting this thing together with any kind of TLC is kidding themselves.

*The Boston Ninja Turtle* · 01-14-2015, 09:32 PM

why do i have a strong gut feeling..this announcement was made without a script even started or not even completed

~~Leo656~~ · 01-14-2015, 09:35 PM

In the interest of fairness, lest anyone give me any sh*t... "Man of Steel" was essentially made from taking a bunch of old scripts out of a drawer and stapling pages from each one together with a few notes in red pen crammed in the margins, then calling it "One Script", and in my opinion, it was a good movie. So it can work.

It's just not under any conditions the RIGHT way to make a movie or tell a good story. But sometimes it turns out okay. I just think in this case, time and money are going to work against them.

ninja-zero · 01-14-2015, 09:40 PM

I would rather have new mutants for Shredder that are.... ninja style. Different animals but ninja trained.

Rahzar is a good example.

ian_punk_03 · 01-14-2015, 09:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZdBFIAnoCY

10 Ways To Make Ninja Turtles 2 Better!! very cool video I just saw

*IndigoErth* · 01-14-2015, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ian_punk_03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZdBFIAnoCY

10 Ways To Make Ninja Turtles 2 Better!! very cool video I just saw

I could be willing to agree to him getting pretty much everything he wants... IF he'd take back the part about Knoxville.

Until/unless it's known otherwise, will still be hoping that Leo's physical actor gets to voice him this time.

Ok, I still do hope they listen to fans, but particularly during this span of time between last summer and production of the next, and carefully consider some things. Legit stuff, not stupid things like the unnecessary title change. But I can see they went for that one because it was easy. The time for making changes is before stupid stuff is recorded.

*TrickOrTreater* · 01-14-2015, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ian_punk_03

Yes i can't wait i loved tmnt 2014 i just wish more of karai and baxter stockman is in it. and hopely 15 to 20 mins longer this time. I loved the subway scene.

I love carpet. I love desk. I love lamp.

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Really quick turnaround for a group that didn't have a set plan for the franchise. Good thing there are some talented writers/producers involved......

Good thing.

Good thing...

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Originally Posted by B-Man

Casey Jones worries me cause I have the feeling they're gonna cast him wrong, I don't want even more focus put on humans & his inclusion could just equal that cringey "romance" sh*t that the Transformers films are filled with.

Guess what. It's going to be.

Liebesman himself said that the reason there wasn't more Turtles in the movie was it was too expensive.

Do you really think that's going to change with MORE cg characters?

No, no it won't. You're going to get the bare minimum, again.

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Speak for yourself plenty of tmnt fans excited for the sequel here and other places

And there are plenty of TMNT fans who aren't excited for it, here and elsewhere.

What's your point?

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Originally Posted by Leo656

In the interest of fairness, lest anyone give me any sh*t... "Man of Steel" was essentially made from taking a bunch of old scripts out of a drawer and stapling pages from each one together with a few notes in red pen crammed in the margins, then calling it "One Script", and in my opinion, it was a good movie. So it can work.

It's just not under any conditions the RIGHT way to make a movie or tell a good story. But sometimes it turns out okay. I just think in this case, time and money are going to work against them.

They won't even do that. Gonna be a big dart board with lots of crappy movie tropes and a blank in each one. Each dart that hits a trope will be written into the script with one of the character's names in the blank.

*Cure* · 01-14-2015, 11:58 PM

Alright, I'm out.

Every thread. Jesus Christ.

*TrickOrTreater* · 01-15-2015, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cure

Alright, I'm out.

Every thread. Jesus Christ.

You seem to think you deserve an echo chamber.

I'm fascinated as to why you think you do.

*Cure* · 01-15-2015, 12:23 AM

I'm not looking for an echo chamber, I'm looking for decent conversation.

I'm OK with pennydreadful's post even though we disagree. She's just like "hey, I have a bad feeling..." and that's cool. She's entitled to that.

I'm OK with Leo's post, even though he's pulling "facts" and "math" out of nowhere. Just a colorful way of expressing his disinterest.

I'm OK with Indigoerth's posts.

What I'm not OK with is people getting singled out for looking forward to the next movie and being responded to with dumb gifs and condescension. They don't deserve that.

But hey, keep doing you, homie. Last time I'll say anything here.

01-14-2015, 05:05 PM	#22
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	Yeah... I mean, I'm not pooh-poohing the idea just for the sake of being negative; it just seems to me that they're throwing in all the stuff that they wanted to do in the first place with the Blue Door script, rather than sitting down and thinking about what a logical continuation from the story we currently have would be. As I've said previously, we've already got Sachs and Shredder, plus Baxter waiting in the wings, and maybe Karai (unless she vanishes for the sequel). I can't imagine that they'd put Bebop and Rocksteady in and not include Shredder, and given Fichtner's three-movie contract, I don't see them putting him on the shelf for a sequel. So we're basically at 4 villains already for the second movie - two of whom are dumb henchmen and the other two of whom aren't properly fleshed out because they were both supposed to be the same character in the first place. To my mind, it would've made more sense to just do something interesting with Fichtner for a sequel, and leave Bebop and Rocksteady out of it. Their inclusion just seems like blatant "Oooh, fans like X... so let's put X in the movie just so they'll pay to see it!", without thinking about the big picture. I mean, if they wanted big action slamfests with mutant-on-mutant for the sequel, there's no reason that they couldn't mutate Fichtner. I don't see why he needs to stay human - he's basically just Rich Evil Human dude, and he doesn't even serve any purpose as their frontman for public relations after his involvement in the events of the first movie. Mutate him into a giant super-freak and make him big enough that it's going to take all four of the Turtles working together to bring him down. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

01-14-2015, 05:34 PM	#25
B-Man Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: New Zealand Posts: 406	This film is all about Bebop & Rocksteady, for me. They're the main event of this sequel. I'm confident they'll be a blast. Casey Jones worries me cause I have the feeling they're gonna cast him wrong, I don't want even more focus put on humans & his inclusion could just equal that cringey "romance" sht that the Transformers* films are filled with. __________________ "They were many. But we kicked... We fought well."

01-14-2015, 05:37 PM	#26
ScrewtheMirageTMNT Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 493	I like this because it means that we'll see leaked stuff sooner than much later. Last edited by ScrewtheMirageTMNT; 01-14-2015 at 05:49 PM.

01-14-2015, 09:32 PM	#32
The Boston Ninja Turtle Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Boston MA Posts: 2,440	why do i have a strong gut feeling..this announcement was made without a script even started or not even completed __________________ I didn't choose the ninja turtle life. The ninja turtle life chose me. https://www.facebook.com/TheBostonNinjaTurtle

01-14-2015, 09:41 PM	#35
ian_punk_03 Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: canada Posts: 19	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZdBFIAnoCY 10 Ways To Make Ninja Turtles 2 Better!! very cool video I just saw Last edited by ian_punk_03; 01-14-2015 at 09:48 PM.

01-14-2015, 05:02 PM	#21
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	Prepare yourselves... TWWII is coming.

01-14-2015, 05:19 PM	#23
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Really quick turnaround for a group that didn't have a set plan for the franchise. Good thing there are some talented writers/producers involved......

01-14-2015, 05:27 PM	#24
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	"we'll convert you". I think it's funny they anticipate that people hated the movie. They know the score. Anyhoo the day the start is going to be a sad day for TMNT fans.

01-14-2015, 08:17 PM	#28
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	And some people say "Dawn of Justice" is being rushed.

01-14-2015, 08:33 PM	#29
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	What's funny to me is, some of the same people who think Dawn of Justice is going to be rushed and crammed are completely behind this project. I'm not saying just here, it's lots of places. It just goes to show you how some people don't really know how to process information. How they're going to make a "better movie" by doubling-down on all the stuff that ruined the first one is a serious mystery to me. I doubt the studio is going to allow twice the budget to accommodate twice as much CGI, for example. Or add another hour to the runtime to make room for all these new characters AND give us more of the Turtles, as some people are so positively certain is going to happen. Fact is, it's either going to be 2 hours and 15 minutes MINIMUM on a $300 million budget, or it's gonna be a rushed hack job. Just math, homies. Just math.

01-14-2015, 09:23 PM	#30
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	Just basking in the faint, dim glow of what tiny crumbs exist of willfully faked naive optimism... at least until something leaks that makes 3/4 of the community go "Oh, ****." Does make me a little concerned that it starts production so soon, that damn script better be amazing. Although on the plus side, I suppose starting so soon gives them more room for error, and appropriately tweaking it in a way that works better (rather than a half assed patched up job), should any truly bad ideas get leaked to the public. I do look forward to seeing how Bebop and Rocksteady turn out though. Seeing as I'm not really attached to them, but I know some are, including I'm sure some that were very in support and defensive of the first film. If they screw those two up... eek. But I'll just grab the popcorn and watch the debates. lol

01-14-2015, 09:29 PM	#31
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Calling it now, they're going with the "Do we really NEED a script?" method. They know they have a "win" just by having Bebop and Rocksteady in it. They've already sold people. Nothing else they do means anything. They'll write some stuff down, I'm sure, but they're not going to spend a whole lot of time on it, because they don't have a lot of time. Most of it will probably come from stuff they threw out the first couple times, when they were working on the last one. That's what usually happens. Which is whatever, that's the business. But anyone who thinks they're putting this thing together with any kind of TLC is kidding themselves.

01-14-2015, 09:35 PM	#33
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	In the interest of fairness, lest anyone give me any sh*t... "Man of Steel" was essentially made from taking a bunch of old scripts out of a drawer and stapling pages from each one together with a few notes in red pen crammed in the margins, then calling it "One Script", and in my opinion, it was a good movie. So it can work. It's just not under any conditions the RIGHT way to make a movie or tell a good story. But sometimes it turns out okay. I just think in this case, time and money are going to work against them.

01-14-2015, 09:40 PM	#34
ninja-zero Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 410	I would rather have new mutants for Shredder that are.... ninja style. Different animals but ninja trained. Rahzar is a good example.

01-14-2015, 11:58 PM	#38
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Alright, I'm out. Every thread. Jesus Christ. __________________

01-15-2015, 12:23 AM	#40
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	I'm not looking for an echo chamber, I'm looking for decent conversation. I'm OK with pennydreadful's post even though we disagree. She's just like "hey, I have a bad feeling..." and that's cool. She's entitled to that. I'm OK with Leo's post, even though he's pulling "facts" and "math" out of nowhere. Just a colorful way of expressing his disinterest. I'm OK with Indigoerth's posts. What I'm not OK with is people getting singled out for looking forward to the next movie and being responded to with dumb gifs and condescension. They don't deserve that. But hey, keep doing you, homie. Last time I'll say anything here.