Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep9: "Return to New York" - Page 4

*Autbot_Benz* · 01-25-2015, 12:32 PM

That episode was Turtles Perfection I loved the new Intro The episode was great all around. I loved seeing them build the Party Wagon unlike a certain movie that just didn't bother"2014 turtles". It looks like next week's is the Bebop and Rocksteady episode.

Toadtrooper · 01-25-2015, 12:33 PM

It was okay. There was a lot that could be torn apart in a screenwriting class.

Everything happened to occur on the day the Turtles headed back. In the real world that's called coincidence. Here, it's called lazy writing.

Another illegal vehicle by New York law. In real life, that thing would get pulled over and impounded in about 20 minutes. The world doesn't just shut down when bad things happen. We have plenty to remind us that.
Asking where everybody in New York is, something we've asked since the first episode.
Why didn't the first MOUSERS call for reinforcements? In a taser fight, numbers win every time.
The Shredder clones really needed an explanation, because otherwise they're just a hollow excuse to show that time has passed. Baxter's plan? Shredder's wardrobe? Why not just clone Karai and kill the old mutant then? Sure, she'll still be a snake woman, but at least she'll be your snake woman from birth.

And who took the picture of Shredder and Karai? It's cute, but there's no way Shredder is into the Instagram game. And we know you love your daughter so much that you locked her up and dangled her over mutagen. Love you too, Dad.

But whatever, screenshots.

And for the codebreakers, B&R's license plate:

*CyberCubed* · 01-25-2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toadtrooper

Another illegal vehicle by New York law. In real life, that thing would get pulled over and impounded in about 20 minutes.

Because this really matters.

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The world doesn't just shut down when bad things happen. We have plenty to remind us that.

This I can agree with, but there's no other way for the show to handle an entire city in ruins without the rest of the world budding in.

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Asking where everybody in New York is, something we've asked since the first episode.

You know why this is.

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Why didn't the first MOUSERS call for reinforcements? In a taser fight, numbers win every time.

Because they didn't?

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The Shredder clones really needed an explanation, because otherwise they're just a hollow excuse to show that time has passed. Baxter's plan? Shredder's wardrobe? Why not just clone Karai and kill the old mutant then? Sure, she'll still be a snake woman, but at least she'll be your snake woman from birth.

The Shredder mutants might have been planned to use against the Kraang.

Mugic · 01-25-2015, 12:55 PM

Was the Shredder clones a throwback to the Mirage comics or the 2K3 cartoon?

The Turtle Terminator · 01-25-2015, 12:56 PM

Genius. Pure genius. Thank you TMNT 2012 creative team!

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Originally Posted by Mugic

Was the Shredder clones a throwback to the Mirage comics or the 2K3 cartoon?

Mirage

*NinjaPug* · 01-25-2015, 12:59 PM

IGN Review - 8.9/10

http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/01/25...ew-york-review

*Vicky82* · 01-25-2015, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

IGN Review - 8.9/10

http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/01/25...ew-york-review

That's awesome

*IndigoErth* · 01-25-2015, 01:04 PM

Will have to catch this again to take in all the details more. Was Shredder even aware that Baxter tried to clone him?

On one hand I could see him having enough ego to think the more there is of him the better; on the other hand I can't see him wanting the threat to his position and uniqueness if a clone had ideas other than taking orders.

Mellie · 01-25-2015, 01:06 PM

Fantastic! I kept shouting out "YEAH!" like a doofus during this ep.

matteso586 · 01-25-2015, 01:07 PM

Leatherhead is also in the new opening. So its a hint that he's alive.

1) Looks like Shredder anticipated the possibility that Splinter survived their battle by sending Foot-Bots into the sewers. 2) Creating a new lab is probably Stockman-Fly's way of coping with the loss of his old one. Why has nobody mentioned the fact that he was talking about creating his own retromutagen? 3) I think those Shredder clones originated from the 2003 series.

Speaking of the 2003 series, I'm still waiting for Agent Bishop to show up.

~~Amaranthus~~ · 01-25-2015, 01:10 PM

Pictures of Shredder clones/Shredder shrimp?

*neatoman* · 01-25-2015, 01:11 PM

Haha, the Shredder clones! Nice touch that they're shellfish mutants this time around, certainly explains the anatomical oddities better than worms.

Although like with the 4Kids version of them, it's pretty bizarre they even exist. Yeah it was probably weirder that an Utrom decided to make humanoid things in replica armor, but they don't seem to serve much purpose here either and I wonder why Shredder would even allow these things to be made. At least the comic explained it, they were failed resurrection attempts, in both animated instances they're just there because it's iconic...

*NinjaPug* · 01-25-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by matteso586

3) I think those Shredder clones originated from the 2003 series.

They originated from the Mirage books in the Return to New York arc

*Vicky82* · 01-25-2015, 01:15 PM

I'm surprised that they killed the Mutated Clones off by having Splinter push them into the fan and hear them getting chopped up.

So is this the first confirmed deaths in the most dark way in a kids show.

yellowmario27 · 01-25-2015, 01:15 PM

I loved this episode!

I don't know why if its because we haven't really seen Leo in a real ~Leader mode~ for a while, but he seems different. Def more mature. Maybe it's just the voice

Seeing Master Splinter all crazy was weird.....was not expecting that. Wonder what happened...Did Karai just save him from drowning then split...hmmmm

Also question, there was a point in the episode where they were in the lair, and Leo tells Mikey to stay with April and Casey while him and the others go explore the lair....does anyone wonder why?

cannot wait to rematch this in a few days.

*Vicky82* · 01-25-2015, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by yellowmario27

Also question, there was a point in the episode where they were in the lair, and Leo tells Mikey to stay with April and Casey while him and the others go explore the lair....does anyone wonder why?

I expect they didn't want Mikey wandering off to his room as they knew it would be probably dangerous and they were right with that Kraang Security thing.

OrangeNinja1987 · 01-25-2015, 01:23 PM

That episode was AMAZING! It was pretty much everything that I was expecting from the Return to New York. I absolutely loved the Shredder clones. While I haven't read the Mirage comic they are introduced in, I instantly recognized them because I'm currently watching the 2k3 for the first time (it was on before I was a fan).
Just an all-around great episode. It shocked me to see that Splinter had gone insane. That was something I never saw coming.
I wonder if Stockman will succeed with his retromutagen, or will it cause more problems?
Also the new intro = A++, but I'm still really going to miss the old one. This show has come so far and it needed to change the intro to fit that. And my jaw dropped when I saw it.
While I liked the new intro, it reminded me of how the OT got a new one in season 4 or so (and I hated that one).
I'll give this episode a 9.5/10. I knew this show would bounce back to its original quality, though I did like a majority of Northampton.

*neatoman* · 01-25-2015, 01:30 PM

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Alright, no Zog, but this episode is awesome!

How would Zog even fit? Don't you kind of need to do the Fugitoid story first? Oh I would love to see an alien world that is not just some lovecraftian weirdness in this show, it does not really have to be D'hoonnib.

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What's in the new intro? What's changed? Has the entire intro been revamped? Is Karai still shown as a "villain" along with Tigerclaw, Fishface,Rahzar, etc.?

Karai is still shown as a villain, I guess they'll alter that part soon enough to fit Bebop, Rocksteady and Hun. Or maybe Karai goes back to being a villain, who knows?

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I'm really liking that Tiger Claw is doubting Shredder, maybe we'll see Tiger Claw betray Shredder sometime in the future? Maybe convince Xever and Bradford that Shredder is completely out of his flipping mind and needs to be taken out?

Probably, obviously the Turtles can't do any of the stuff they did to him in the comics to defeat him, so having the other villains do it would be a nice subsitute.

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But whatever, screenshots.
http://i.imgur.com/orPkaOs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RO4avZX.jpg

And for the codebreakers, B&R's license plate:

http://i.imgur.com/ef1PnAz.jpg

How do think Mikey will will name them? Will they end up in some hipster record store and take the names from random signs?

*Zulithe* · 01-25-2015, 01:36 PM

Enjoyed the episode a lot. I love these episodes where there's barely any downtime, just tons of stuff happening.

I can't wait for Mondo Gecko, Ciro's concept art for him was perfect.

*Xav* · 01-25-2015, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Was Shredder even aware that Baxter tried to clone him?

They never said they were clones. Stockman called them "Shredder mutants".

View Poll Results: Please don't try and eat my face anymore!
New Intro and new wheels! Woohoo!	51	70.83%
Splinter is kinda disturbing in just his skivvies... :\	8	11.11%
Oh look... Super April finds/saves/cures Splinter... yippee.	6	8.33%
After seeing those Shredder clones, I have the strongest craving for seafood...	7	9.72%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

01-25-2015, 12:32 PM	#61
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,140	That episode was Turtles Perfection I loved the new Intro The episode was great all around. I loved seeing them build the Party Wagon unlike a certain movie that just didn't bother"2014 turtles". It looks like next week's is the Bebop and Rocksteady episode. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

01-25-2015, 01:15 PM	#74
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,803	I'm surprised that they killed the Mutated Clones off by having Splinter push them into the fan and hear them getting chopped up. So is this the first confirmed deaths in the most dark way in a kids show. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

01-25-2015, 01:23 PM	#77
OrangeNinja1987 Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 223	That episode was AMAZING! It was pretty much everything that I was expecting from the Return to New York. I absolutely loved the Shredder clones. While I haven't read the Mirage comic they are introduced in, I instantly recognized them because I'm currently watching the 2k3 for the first time (it was on before I was a fan). Just an all-around great episode. It shocked me to see that Splinter had gone insane. That was something I never saw coming. I wonder if Stockman will succeed with his retromutagen, or will it cause more problems? Also the new intro = A++, but I'm still really going to miss the old one. This show has come so far and it needed to change the intro to fit that. And my jaw dropped when I saw it. While I liked the new intro, it reminded me of how the OT got a new one in season 4 or so (and I hated that one). I'll give this episode a 9.5/10. I knew this show would bounce back to its original quality, though I did like a majority of Northampton. __________________ DON: We've got to find that bomb! And we've only got eight minutes to do it! RAPH: Excuse me; is that including the commercial break? - 1987 For TMNT art and more, check out OrangeNinja1987 on Deviantart! http://orangeninja1987.deviantart.com/ To help with a current TMNT project: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=53441 Proud fan of the TMNT 2014 movie

01-25-2015, 12:33 PM	#62
Toadtrooper Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 250	It was okay. There was a lot that could be torn apart in a screenwriting class. Everything happened to occur on the day the Turtles headed back. In the real world that's called coincidence. Here, it's called lazy writing. Another illegal vehicle by New York law. In real life, that thing would get pulled over and impounded in about 20 minutes. The world doesn't just shut down when bad things happen. We have plenty to remind us that. Asking where everybody in New York is, something we've asked since the first episode. Why didn't the first MOUSERS call for reinforcements? In a taser fight, numbers win every time. The Shredder clones really needed an explanation, because otherwise they're just a hollow excuse to show that time has passed. Baxter's plan? Shredder's wardrobe? Why not just clone Karai and kill the old mutant then? Sure, she'll still be a snake woman, but at least she'll be your snake woman from birth. And who took the picture of Shredder and Karai? It's cute, but there's no way Shredder is into the Instagram game. And we know you love your daughter so much that you locked her up and dangled her over mutagen. Love you too, Dad. But whatever, screenshots. And for the codebreakers, B&R's license plate:

01-25-2015, 12:55 PM	#64
Mugic Thug Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Dimension X Posts: 96	Was the Shredder clones a throwback to the Mirage comics or the 2K3 cartoon?

01-25-2015, 12:59 PM	#66
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	IGN Review - 8.9/10 http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/01/25...ew-york-review

01-25-2015, 01:04 PM	#68
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,286	Will have to catch this again to take in all the details more. Was Shredder even aware that Baxter tried to clone him? On one hand I could see him having enough ego to think the more there is of him the better; on the other hand I can't see him wanting the threat to his position and uniqueness if a clone had ideas other than taking orders.

01-25-2015, 01:06 PM	#69
Mellie Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 184	Fantastic! I kept shouting out "YEAH!" like a doofus during this ep.

01-25-2015, 01:07 PM	#70
matteso586 Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 712	Leatherhead is also in the new opening. So its a hint that he's alive. 1) Looks like Shredder anticipated the possibility that Splinter survived their battle by sending Foot-Bots into the sewers. 2) Creating a new lab is probably Stockman-Fly's way of coping with the loss of his old one. Why has nobody mentioned the fact that he was talking about creating his own retromutagen? 3) I think those Shredder clones originated from the 2003 series. Speaking of the 2003 series, I'm still waiting for Agent Bishop to show up.

01-25-2015, 01:10 PM	#71
~~Amaranthus~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: West-Flanders, Belgium Posts: 1,815	Pictures of Shredder clones/Shredder shrimp?

01-25-2015, 01:15 PM	#75
yellowmario27 Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 133	I loved this episode! I don't know why if its because we haven't really seen Leo in a real ~Leader mode~ for a while, but he seems different. Def more mature. Maybe it's just the voice Seeing Master Splinter all crazy was weird.....was not expecting that. Wonder what happened...Did Karai just save him from drowning then split...hmmmm Also question, there was a point in the episode where they were in the lair, and Leo tells Mikey to stay with April and Casey while him and the others go explore the lair....does anyone wonder why? cannot wait to rematch this in a few days.

01-25-2015, 01:36 PM	#79
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	Enjoyed the episode a lot. I love these episodes where there's barely any downtime, just tons of stuff happening. I can't wait for Mondo Gecko, Ciro's concept art for him was perfect.