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Old 01-13-2015, 04:10 AM   #41
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One word.. Crossover.
One word...yawn.

What is with people's obsessions with Spidey having to cameo in one of these movies?

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Old 01-13-2015, 10:06 AM   #42
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Well, one of his earliest and biggest stories involved him trying to join the F4, so yeah, that'd be kinda neat. I mean, it's canon, if nothing else. Some ideas are better than others, but I automatically award points whenever these guys bother to put stuff from the books in there.

I'unno how I remember that, other than, I think I had one of those reprint books back in the day. I'm not a Marvel guy but I flipped my way through some Spider-Man from around 1989 to 1993. Mostly the Venom and Carnage stuff.

Anyways, as for a Spidey/F4 crossover, it might be kinda silly and pointless but it'd also be more interesting than whatever movie is next for either franchise.
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Old 01-13-2015, 12:40 PM   #43
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Well, one of his earliest and biggest stories involved him trying to join the F4, so yeah, that'd be kinda neat.
Indeed, and later Lee/Ditko stories set up his long-lasting rivalry/friendship with Johnny Storm (though I've kind of soured on both of them then since they have taken monumental steps backwards in maturity. I remember when Johnny was married to Alicia/Lyja and was growing into a leader role back in the 80s)
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:36 PM   #44
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Lots of info on the reboot:

http://collider.com/the-fantastic-fo...ls-josh-trank/
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:12 AM   #45
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Well, here's the trailer...



I'm not too impressed... too many trailers have boring monologues that take up the whole trailer, with a montage of clips that may or may not actually tell you what the movie is about. This is one of them.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:25 AM   #46
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First and foremost? Never cared about the FF.

Pros? That's a pretty sweet trailer visually. Nothing looks bad. (It does seem to be mimicking Interstellar really hard, though...)

Cons? That's it? The movie EVERYONE has been complaining about for, what, two years now? The movie that Fox has released NOTHING for until right now? No teaser, no promo, no nothing? And that's all they show?

Fox baffles me.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:33 AM   #47
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Still better than that pants Ant-Man trailer
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:15 AM   #48
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Looks terrible. Chronicle 2 : The Fantastic Fail.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:31 AM   #49
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[Insert "Interstellar 2" joke here]

Not feeling this at all. I'd love it if the next FF reboot just went Full Kirby - fun, bright, colourful, optimistic. And I know a lot of folks will say that'd look "silly" and "dated"... but so will this, in ten years or less.

Just saying. The gritty/dark/moody superhero movie is not gonna age well, especially when it's for a concept like Fantastic Four. That's the issue with trying to do "a contemporary reimagining" of something like this - you're just dating it in a different way. But if you tried to capture the original vision, at least you'd be following a pattern that's largely worked for 50 years. And people might even have fun watching it!
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:56 AM   #50
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[Insert "Interstellar 2" joke here]

Not feeling this at all. I'd love it if the next FF reboot just went Full Kirby - fun, bright, optimistic. And I know a lot of folks will say that'd look "silly" and "dated"... but so will this, in ten years or less.
As a huge Kirby fan, I would so want to see that happen. Maybe in the next reboot.

As for the trailer, I agree with what others have said. Visually it looks cool. But content wise? Looks more like Chronicle and Interstellar than the FF.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:09 AM   #51
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As for the trailer, I agree with what others have said. Visually it looks cool. But content wise? Looks more like Chronicle and Intersettler than the FF.
That's probably because it will be Chronicle (also directed by Josh Trank) and Interstellar, just with FF characters.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:24 AM   #52
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Is there any good reason for Johnny to be black other than racial diversity in films? I'd rather have them look for actors that look like the comic book counterpart.
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Is there any good reason for Johnny to be black other than racial diversity in films? I'd rather have them look for actors that look like the comic book counterpart.
The strangest part about the choice is that Sue Storm is his sister... and she's white in the film. I mean, it's not impossible to have a situation like that, but it still probably wasn't the best choice...

I wonder if Stan Lee will be be Mr. Lumpkin again.

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Old 01-27-2015, 10:49 AM   #54
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The black suits are a huge disappointment, did we travel back to the early 2000's? Why are Fox so afraid to show accurate costumes in freaking 2015.

The only thing I've liked so far is the casting choice for Sue and Johnny Storm, the other two are just too young. Kate Mara is too young in my opinion, but at least she has passed thirty. Teller and Bell are 27 and 28 years old, personally I'd prefer them to be closer to their forties.

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The strangest part about the choice is that Sue Storm is his sister... and she's white in the film. I mean, it's not impossible to have a situation like that, but it still probably wasn't the best choice...
I don't really see a problem with a black person having a white sibling, although I think it would have been cooler if both the Storm siblings where African-Americans, so Johnny don't seem to be the token character of the movie.
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I don't really see a problem with a black person having a white sibling, although I think it would have been cooler if both the Storm siblings where African-Americans, so Johnny don't seem to be the token character of the movie.
It's not a problem, but it's just distracting when the viewer's like, "Huh? One's black and one's white? And they're siblings? How'd that happen?"

You're right, they should have both just been of one race; it'd be less of a complication.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:12 AM   #56
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cool Trailer, I got no complaints...other than I have to watch the origin story all over again XD I feel like I just did....(when did the first Fantastic 4 movie come out again?)
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:47 AM   #57
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Looks kinda cool. I'll definitely see it. I understand everyone's complaints, but even as someone who used to read Fantastic Four, a faithful adaption will never work in a movie. Even if Marvel had the rights, they'd probably just mothball it because it's just a wee bit too silly to fit their universe tonally.

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Is there any good reason for Johnny to be black other than racial diversity in films? I'd rather have them look for actors that look like the comic book counterpart.
If the studio sat down and said, we need a black guy in the fantastic four to make it sell, then eff that.

But if the director and producers thought someone brought everything to the role they were looking for save for skin color? I'd rather not see something like ethnicity hold them back.

Evidence points to the latter, from what I've read. MBJ is really funny, I say give him a chance.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:51 AM   #58
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Movie doesn't look bad but it doesn't look like a F4 movie to me. Looks like a scifi movie that just happens to have characters from F4 in it.
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Here's video of Josh Trank & Simon Kinberg's commentary on the teaser trailer.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/the-fan...246554892.html
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Old 01-27-2015, 01:37 PM   #60
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Trailer is pretty good and cool to see the Fantastic 4 on film again, they're really underrated by current Marvel fans, they're easily some of the best heroes that Marvel has. I am not a fan with this being an origin movie and I'm also not a fan of black Storm and overall most of the things I've heard about this movie don't sound great.

Fox did mention they intended this to share universe with the X-Men right? So I wonder how they'll incorporate the whole Mutants being outcasts but F4 being superheroes everyone loves. Let's hope they don't mess up Doom again, easily the worst part of the first two movies and the first movie really isn't that bad and neither is the second, they really should've gone the soft reboot route a la Hulk/Ghost Rider. I remember being really bummed there were no Mutants or crossover in Sue's wedding in F4-2.

And you may not like what Fox is doing with F4, but maybe they're going with the darker outfits since it fits the X-Men universe better and they already did comic accurate costumes their first tries at the franchise.
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