Sony Pictures Entertainment Brings Marvel Studios Into The Amazing World Of Spider-Ma

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I'd like for them to get him right once before moving on.

Definitely.

The movies make Peter out to be a charismatic, likable guy who just gets bullied by Flash Thompson because Flash is just a bully.

If people actually read the first few Spider-Man comics, including Amazing Fantasy 15, they'd realize that Peter's very shy, very introverted, and actually a little bit of a jerk to his classmates. He doesn't go to parties, or to dances, or anything social, and then is surprised when Sally Avril doesn't want to date him and Flash Thompson treats him poorly.

That's the Peter I want to see (at least, initially).

[THGhost]

Nice to know that more and more people here realise that Peter will always be Spider-Man to the average viewer. They're certainly not getting sick of him and never will. He IS Spider-Man, and I hope you all know what I mean by that.

For the record, I too have never read a Marvel comic in my life, yet I know basically everything there is to know about the Spider-Man universe due to watching the cartoons & films and having my friends who did read the comics tell me about them growing up, and now reading about them online as an adult. I also have a pretty firm grip on a lot of other Marvel characters, including each Avenger. The only DC lore that I really know back to front is Batman.

THIS might interest some of you:

"Sony is looking to a few fresh faces to portray a much younger Spider-Man in their Marvel Studios-sanctioned new take on the character

A few actors are already being considered to replace the Amazing Spider-Man series' Andrew Garfield, including Dylan O'Brien (The Maze Runner) and Logan Lerman (the Percy Jackson series, Fury). The studio has reportedly not yet reached out to them. A new director is also needed to replace The Amazing Spider-Man films' Marc Webb, and presumably this new helmer will participate in the casting of the film.

The new Peter Parker will go back to "Spidey’s roots and put the character back in high school," and the web-slinging superhero will now "spend more time in the setting and explore his awkward relationship with other students while fighting crime out of the classroom.""

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/02/1...for-new-spidey

Video for those who can't be bothered reading - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz3DNQpuhcI

My reaction to this was - I really need to get round to watching The Maze Runner.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

He's a highschool student because that's where Peter Parker is the most iconic.
That's where more people know him from.

I actually think that most people know him as a college student. The high school part is key to his origin, but most versions of the character move him on to college very quickly (including the original comics, where he graduated high school after 29 issues).

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

The movies make Peter out to be a charismatic, likable guy who just gets bullied by Flash Thompson because Flash is just a bully.

If people actually read the first few Spider-Man comics, including Amazing Fantasy 15, they'd realize that Peter's very shy, very introverted, and actually a little bit of a jerk to his classmates. He doesn't go to parties, or to dances, or anything social, and then is surprised when Sally Avril doesn't want to date him and Flash Thompson treats him poorly.

That's the Peter I want to see (at least, initially).

That part of the character was pure Steve Ditko. It's funny how quickly Peter becomes a much more level-headed, friendly guy after Ditko left the title - even making friends with his former bullies by talking to them and resolving their misunderstandings, even becoming best friends with Harry, which would've been unheard of in the original Lee/Ditko run. Considering how much of an anti-social recluse Ditko became (and was all along, really) it makes a lot of sense.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Cure

Damn it. I liked the Amazing movies a lot. And Andrew Garfield.

I am too. I had high hopes for Sony's plans for Spiderman. Obviously ASM 3. Insidious 6, Venom.

I thought Andrew Garfield made a great spider-man, ugh... damn oh well.

[THGhost]

High School... College... either will do, as long as he's still in some more of education. Although it would be nice to see a grown up Spidey on film for once.

Originally Posted by Redeemer

I am too. I had high hopes for Sony's plans for Spiderman. Obviously ASM 3. Insidious 6, Venom.

I thought Andrew Garfield made a great spider-man, ugh... damn oh well.

I think you mean Sinister Six. I thought he was great too.

[Bry]

"Insidious Six" is probably referring to these dudes:



Always wondered why they changed the name for that cartoon... Though there were a lot of weird censorship issues back then. I seem to recall that Spider-Man wasn't allowed to punch anyone and cops had to be packing weird-looking laser guns so kids wouldn't mistake them for actual firearms? Wouldn't surprise me if they decided "sinister" was too harsh a word.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

People who don't read comics didn't know much of anything about any of the Avengers before the movies. Using "People only know Peter!" as the excuse to only use Peter...is a crap excuse.

Thank you!

Most people who don't read comics might vaguely know Peter, but that doesn't mean they are gonna dismiss a Spiderman movie just because he's not in it. I mean if they used Miles Morales people will give him a chance because he's still a Spiderman. It's all about Spiderman. Just make Miles an interesting character and people will like the movie.

heck for most little kids Miles might end up being their first Spiderman.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

heck for most little kids Miles might end up being their first Spiderman.

He's certainly worthy of it. Peter's death being his "Uncle Ben moment" is a clever twist, and despite their different backgrounds, the similar sense of responsibility and general character traits he has to Peter speak to the universal nature of Spider-Man as a character and concept - he can be anyone. Race, gender - those don't really matter. The heart of the concept, and character, is totally flexible if you get the essentials down.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Bry

"Insidious Six" is probably referring to these dudes:

http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/w.../insidious.jpg

Always wondered why they changed the name for that cartoon... Though there were a lot of weird censorship issues back then. I seem to recall that Spider-Man wasn't allowed to punch anyone and cops had to be packing weird-looking laser guns so kids wouldn't mistake them for actual firearms? Wouldn't surprise me if they decided "sinister" was too harsh a word.

I also remember it never ever using the words "death", "die" or "dead".

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Thank you!

Most people who don't read comics might vaguely know Peter, but that doesn't mean they are gonna dismiss a Spiderman movie just because he's not in it. I mean if they used Miles Morales people will give him a chance because he's still a Spiderman. It's all about Spiderman. Just make Miles an interesting character and people will like the movie.

heck for most little kids Miles might end up being their first Spiderman.

Yeah, because all those awesome cartoons and movies never existed, huh? They definitely know who Peter is. and Spider-Man is half about Spider-Man and half about his alter ego, most commonly Peter Parker. It isn't all about Spider-Man.

Last time I checked, Miles has existed since 2011. Marvel & Sony aren't gonna turn their backs on Peter, a character who's existed for decades and has carried the legacy of Spider-Man since his very first appearance.

Don't get me wrong though, seeing Miles on the big screen for a change would be cool. But it isn't going to happen this time and probably won't happen until the next inevitable reboot, whenever that may be.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by THGhost

I also remember it never ever using the words "death", "die" or "dead".



Yeah, because all those awesome cartoons and movies never existed, huh? They definitely know who Peter is. and Spider-Man is half about Spider-Man and half about his alter ego, most commonly Peter Parker. It isn't all about Spider-Man.

Last time I checked, Miles has existed since 2011. Marvel & Sony aren't gonna turn their backs on Peter, a character who's existed for decades and has carried the legacy of Spider-Man since his very first appearance.

Don't get me wrong though, seeing Miles on the big screen for a change would be cool. But it isn't going to happen this time and probably won't happen until the next inevitable reboot, whenever that may be.

Why do people think that doing a different Spiderman is backstabbing Peter or something??

It's just doing something fresh....something new....something that isn't Uncle Ben dying for the 100,000th time.

seriously it's not like Peter will cease to exist, I mean having 2 very popular Spidermans can only help right?

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Why do people think that doing a different Spiderman is backstabbing Peter or something??

It's just doing something fresh....something new....something that isn't Uncle Ben dying for the 100,000th time.

seriously it's not like Peter will cease to exist, I mean having 2 very popular Spidermans can only help right?

I agree But you can't stop others from thinking that. And I'd totally understand if they did.
Even Uncle Ben's death in the first Amazing Spider-Man film felt rushed.

Has Miles appeared in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon? I'm currently watching The Spectacular Spider-Man so I haven't seen it yet. If he hasn't, maybe he should have his own cartoon series someday? That way putting him in a live-action film would make more sense.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by THGhost

I agree But you can't stop others from thinking that. And I'd totally understand if they did.
Even Uncle Ben's death in the first Amazing Spider-Man film felt rushed.

Has Miles appeared in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon? I'm currently watching The Spectacular Spider-Man so I haven't seen it yet. If he hasn't, maybe he should have his own cartoon series someday? That way putting him in a live-action film would make more sense.

you mean like this?? It was a quick cameo but he appeared~

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

I am too. I had high hopes for Sony's plans for Spiderman. Obviously ASM 3. Insidious 6, Venom.

Don't worry the spin-offs are still planned.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by THGhost

High School... College... either will do, as long as he's still in some more of education. Although it would be nice to see a grown up Spidey on film for once

When I was a kid, Peter and MJ were expecting a kid. I've been fortunate to read a series where he was a parent (and boy could he be an ass of a dad while still somehow being a devoted and considerate one), but he was retired for the majority of it. With the "Renew Your Vows" story coming up which may offer an insight into what life would have like for Peter if he had'nt sustained his injury and given up the webs while raising a kid, I'm curious if that will stretch out into the climate of the comics post-Secret Wars and lay a foundation that the films can follow

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Bry

"Insidious Six" is probably referring to these dudes:

http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/w.../insidious.jpg

Always wondered why they changed the name for that cartoon... Though there were a lot of weird censorship issues back then. I seem to recall that Spider-Man wasn't allowed to punch anyone and cops had to be packing weird-looking laser guns so kids wouldn't mistake them for actual firearms? Wouldn't surprise me if they decided "sinister" was too harsh a word.

Yes!!!! lol I just started reading the comics this past year. (Ultimate)
I watched the entire cartoon a couple years ago.

Originally Posted by Xav

Don't worry the spin-offs are still planned.

Thats awesome, but I wish they would finish the current trilogy.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

I wish they would finish the current trilogy.

Having Marvel help Sony finish it would have been nice. Oh well.

[ToTheNines]

Now that I've processed all this, I'm more excited about this deal. Marvel's phase 3 lineup looks way better now. 2017 now has Guardians 2, Spidey, and Ragnorok. It's been said that Ragnarok is going to be to phase 3 as Winter Soldier was to phase 2. So I think it's cool that it'll now be the movie directly before Infinity War.

Then Captain Marvel is still in between the two Infinity War parts, so no biggie there. Just gotta wait a few extra months.

Also good to hear the spinoffs are still happening, seems kinda weird that they're even doing them, but I guess they'll tweak them to be more MCU friendly.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

It's been said that Ragnarok is going to be to phase 3 as Winter Soldier was to phase 2.

I hope so. So far I've been less than impressed with Thor's films.

[snake]

Miles will never be in a movie. Deal with it.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by snake

Miles will never be in a movie. Deal with it.

Seriously, I don't get why people want to waste such an opportunity by having some second rate Spider-Man team up with The Avengers rather than Peter Parker himself. It's like having a Batman vs Superman movie with alternate lesser versions of the characters. It totally defeats the purpose.