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The problem with Miles is that he's really NOT "fresh" or "new", it's a Spidey retread with a different name and ethnicity, but with a very similar origin, powers (except the venom-blasts, which honestly just seem like a re-tread of Spider-WOMAN) and age. In fact, with Miles being even YOUNGER than Peter was originally, it just means we'd have to wait that much longer for him to grow up, and of course, that's the rub- he NEVER WILL. Because comic characters only age about five-ten years, and then stop there and get a reboot and/or ret-con. Talk about being a perpetual man-child!
And Zarius' Peter Pan analogy is unfortunately even more apt with Miles. He'll just be stuck in high-school forever, reliving the same problems ad infinitum, and won't even have the history Peter has to fall back on. He'll never get married and have kids of his own unless it's in a future timeline that will either get erased or will be in an alternate universe, he'll never get to have a job, and he'll never grow beyond a teen-ager inspired to be a hero by someone who held the same mantle before him. He'll FOEVER be in Peter's shadow, even in his own universe. What some consider "baggage" is actually Peter's rich and complex history, with decades of stories and characters to pull from, including having two clones running around- one of which has at various times tried to KILL him! That's not even counting the side-dramas of characters like Gwen's secret (and shocking) affair with Norman Osborne while Harry was ill after a drug overdose, the resulting kids from that affair, M-J's estrangement, the supposed abduction of their allegedly stillborn daughter, JJJ's axe-grinding and attempts to expose or capture Spidey.... There is so much material to mine. And what does Miles have? A few years worth of stories that mainly involve him taking over for Spidey, and then dealing with the same group of villains as his predecessor. (Haven't read the book itself, just followed a bit of the news on it, but there doesn't seem to be much there that is really "new".)
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I like Miles, but you raise a good point. Hell there's been noticeable time skips in his comic where his biggest arc was doing...erm, f-all because he sat out months as Spidey when his mother died.
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So what do you guys think the title will be? "Amazing" is out, but Spectacular is still an option (personally against it because the animated series is so special to me, but it's not necessarily a bad idea).
Right now I think it's most likely to be plain old Spider-Man, or Spider-Man: Enter Subtitle Here. |
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Why not use another comic title- "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man"? Or Peter Parker, Spider-Man? Scarlet Spider? There are plenty of possibilities.
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Am I the only one thinking this whole Peter vs Miles conversation should be moved to another thread?
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I haven't read Ultimate in ages, never a single issue with Miles so I can't really contribute to that conversation. But I do wish everyone would shut the **** up about Donald Glover already.
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I do like Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, or Web of Spider-Man.
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but he did do Miles's voice in Ultimate Spiderman so I think that's good enough
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Ooh, I forgot Web of! Good catch. And that one's actually got a good ring to it for a movie.
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Apparently, you aren't the only one:
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![]() Why not just make new characters that happen to be of a certain gender/race/orientation? There was a time when Spider-Man himself was a new creation and not just another archetype.
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Seriously though, I could totally see Jaden Smith getting the part - if they were going with Miles and not Peter of course.
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Except that he wasn't. He was Marvel's Batman.
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Batman? Hardly. That honor goes to Tony Stark. Spidey really doesn't have a DC analog, persona-wise OR in powers or "gimmick". The only thing in common he had with Bats is the death of a loved one/parental figure- and there are plenty of heroes who have a similar background. If I had to dig for the closets "match" for Spidey- it would be Robin, though more nerdy and with actual powers.
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I was thinking the same thing about Tony Stark.
Growing up I always thought of The Flash as the Spidey of DC. I never really watched anything DC-related besides Batman, so I didn't know that much about The Flash other than that he was fast, wore red and was a kind of a wiseguy.
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I don't see "diversifying" as a bad thing at all, though. Let's face it - these characters and their world were created in a time before the civil rights movement had been widely accepted, much less won, and that silver age focus was pretty narrow. The line's a lot more diverse now, but the "top tier" characters all tend to be straight white men. So I think it's at least worth asking, "which of these characters have to stay that way?"
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Lol at the possibility of Jaden Smith as Spidey. His dad doesn't have enough money to get him that role.
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