[WTT] The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck

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I've been trying to find a decent deal on The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck graphic novel and was hoping maybe someone on here might have one they'd be willing to trade or sell for a more fair price than what they are gouged for on ebay. I have tons of comics and even some MIB figures I'd be willing to trade to try and get it. I have the four Turtles, Splinter, and Shredder MIB from the 03 series I'd be willing to let go. Also I have the Comic Con Shredder MIB I'd be willing to trade for it as well.

[RossMay]

Sorry, won't part with mine. You might be aware and still want a copy now, but in case you don't know, Don Rosa's duck stories are being reprinted through Fantagraphics. It hasn't been solicited yet, but seeing as it's his most famous work, Life and Times will be coming out in a nice hardcover sometime in the next few years.

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Originally Posted by RossMay

Sorry, won't part with mine. You might be aware and still want a copy now, but in case you don't know, Don Rosa's duck stories are being reprinted through Fantagraphics. It hasn't been solicited yet, but seeing as it's his most famous work, Life and Times will be coming out in a nice hardcover sometime in the next few years.

I didn't know that. I really want to get my hands on it. My buddy has it but would never let it go. I've read some of it but never got to finish it. I've met Rosa a lot and have some of his sketches personalized and hanging on my wall. Honestly, I don't consider him a very nice guy. I love Ducktales and it's my favorite show of all time and Scrooge is my all time favorite character and Rosa seems to have a really elitist attitude towards the show. He's still a phenomenal artist though. Do you have the Companion and Vol. 2 as well? I was just curious how you viewed them in relation to Vol. 1. Thanks for that info also.

[RossMay]

Hang on to those sketches by Rosa - whether you keep or sell them, they'll be worth more than any copy of Life and Times someday!

I've never met him, but I think you picked a very good word with "elitist." A lot of duck fans are snobs who look down on Ducktales, not recognising that it was a very good show! To give you an idea, much of Life and Times (and Rosa's other stories) are hung up on Scrooge's dime being his "Number 1 Dime" and not actually lucky, because that implies Scrooge somehow had luck helping him earn his fortune. I agree with Rosa and snobs on that point, but it's such a complicated thing to explain when Magica DeSpell still wants the dime, I don't blame the cartoon at all for just calling it "lucky." Gives you an idea on how trivial people can get.

Check out Amazon and search for Carl Barks and Don Rosa, and you'll find the great series Fantagraphics is collecting. They'll be reprinting both men's entire works.
(In one Barks book, a snob goes on about how he dislikes Alan Young's Scottish accent for Scrooge because Scrooge should be quintessentially American - such whining!)

Life and Times Companion is also very good. The regular book shows key moments of Scrooge's life, leading to a point (Scrooge meeting his nephews and deciding to have "new" adventures, the original Carl Barks stories). Companion is just a collection of stories in Scrooge's past and doesn't have a larger arc. There are fun stories in there like Magica travelling back in time to trick a young Scrooge, adventures with Buffalo Bill (which Barks had Scrooge mention in a story), and more stories set in the Yukon. Companion also contains the now internet famous story that came up with all the ideas that would be presented in the movie Inception.

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Yeah and what's funny is that most of the time on Ducktales it actually uses the phrase "number 1 dime". Rosa can go on all he wants to about how "authentic" his Scrooge is and all that but didn't Barks' Scrooge actually break rules to get ahead but Rosa's had a strict code of never doing that? That's ridiculous about Alan Young. I know a lot of elitists get mad about Magica's accent also. I watched a youtube vid with Don Rosa giving a tour of his house and studio and he has TONS of Duck memorabilia and especially from the Ducktales era. What's really smarmy is how he loves to point out all his Scrooge stuff but then say it's not "real" Scrooge stuff. I'm just like "dude you are such an idiot". We like to go to Disneyworld a lot and at Hollywood Studios they have an actual functioning studio with an attraction where you can learn to draw certain characters. So I asked if they had any Scrooge artists a few months ago and actually they have an artist named Brian Fichtner that loves drawing him. So I asked if I could meet with him and they said yeah and he sketched me a quick Scrooge. I asked him if he had met Rosa and he said yeah and he had the same experience as me. He said he told him that if he ever wanted to come down to Disneyworld and see their huge studios that he would let him in for free and give him an in depth tour of everything and Rosa looked at him like he was stupid. That's really lame that someone would act that way towards a fellow artist. He showed him some of his work and he said Rosa was extremely dismissive of it. Honestly knowing how Rosa is in real life makes it harder for me to enjoy his work. It's sorta like when you love a famous musician and then meet them and they are a total jerk. It just ruins the perception you had formed in your mind ya know? At Heroescon every year Rosa has a booth with a sign that says "This is NOT 'DUCKTALES' which was a show LOOSELY based on Carl Barks comics!" That just seems really condescending to me. That's great info on the new releases though! Thanks for that.

[oldmanwinters]

Duck-politics.... fascinating!

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Duck-politics.... fascinating!

LOL! TMNT has no doubt its fair share as well.

[funatic]

Do you happen to have any of these comics up for trade:

-TMNT v1 #4 (first print)
- Image #22
- Archie #67-68, 71-72

I *might* be willing to let my Life and Times go for the right combo of these hard to find issues.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!

LOL! TMNT has no doubt its fair share as well.

That's putting it lightly! Usually, the Turtle debates tend to be much less elitist and more crass than the Duck-faithful though.

[RossMay]

You've got to watch out meeting your heroes, for sure!

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Originally Posted by funatic

Do you happen to have any of these comics up for trade:

-TMNT v1 #4 (first print)
- Image #22
- Archie #67-68, 71-72

I *might* be willing to let my Life and Times go for the right combo of these hard to find issues.

No. I wish I did. I'm more in to the figures of TMNT than the comics. I do have an MIB Comic Con Shredder though that I might be willing to trade for it if you'd be interested. It seems the value of that Shredder is going up and might be comparable to the worth of that book.

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

That's putting it lightly! Usually, the Turtle debates tend to be much less elitist and more crass than the Duck-faithful though.

Yeah that kind of stuff really exists within all fanbases sadly. I'm a die hard Steelers fan and you'd be amazed at how some fans treat each other.

[wildfire405]

The reason he's so upset about Duck Tales is that his and his hero's work on the comics was contracted work. They got paid once for it when it was originally done--and they weren't paid much. Disney has used their stories and characters, reprinted them, adapted them into episodes of the TV show and hasn't so much as credited Rosa or Barks as contributors (edit) let alone pay them for using their work over and over and making more money off it.

Disney was a horrible company for him to work for and he's bitter over those sour experiences. But he does love the ducks, his hero, Carl Barks, and he loves being acknowledged for his work--like any of us would.

I believe the first half of Life and Times is going to see a reprint this year. Mine is already preordered!! http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Uncle-S...scrooge+mcduck

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Originally Posted by wildfire405

The reason he's so upset about Duck Tales is that his and his hero's work on the comics was contracted work. They got paid once for it when it was originally done--and they weren't paid much. Disney has used their stories and characters, reprinted them, adapted them into episodes of the TV show and hasn't so much as credited Rosa or Barks as contributors (edit) let alone pay them for using their work over and over and making more money off it.

Disney was a horrible company for him to work for and he's bitter over those sour experiences. But he does love the ducks, his hero, Carl Barks, and he loves being acknowledged for his work--like any of us would.

I believe the first half of Life and Times is going to see a reprint this year. Mine is already preordered!! http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Uncle-S...scrooge+mcduck

Carl Barks is absolutely credited on the credits of Ducktales. Disney does have a policy among Imagineers of not letting them claim credit for what they do on attractions. That's why there is such a thing as Hidden Mickeys. Which is one of my greatest passions in life. I love looking for them. Thanks for letting me know about that though.

[wildfire405]

And thanks for clearing that up that Barks is credited! That makes me feel a little better. I know that Don Rosa hides the initialism D.U.C.K on the overs of the comics since he wasn't allowed to sign the drawings. It stood for Dedicated to Uncle Carl from Keno (Don's first name) Those are fun to hunt for.

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Originally Posted by wildfire405

And thanks for clearing that up that Barks is credited! That makes me feel a little better. I know that Don Rosa hides the initialism D.U.C.K on the overs of the comics since he wasn't allowed to sign the drawings. It stood for Dedicated to Uncle Carl from Keno (Don's first name) Those are fun to hunt for.

Yeah and he actually puts Hidden Mickey's in there as well. There's sort of a misunderstanding that people have about Don Rosa that says he hates Mickey. He doesn't actually hate him but he just thinks of him as more of a mascot than an actual character with genuine depth. I disagree with him about that but that's sorta what he thinks. There's actually a whole series on youtube where a guy goes to his house and interviews him for a loooong time and he walks him on a tour of his house and property and shows him how he draws and things like that. It's pretty cool actually.