I would like to see an episode of the Turtles turning Human - Page 2

senpai · 03-02-2015, 08:45 PM

If the Nick series decides to make the turtles human for an episode, I have complete faith that it's going to be great. I think the Nick series has some great writers for the show. True, there were some episodes that struck me as so-so, but really, '12 TMNT has yet to let me down. I think my least favorite episode was Monkey Brains...and that was mainly because the monkey really scared me. xD Anyway, if it's done right, I think it could be interesting. I just wonder, if they do go down that route, what would be the point? You know what I mean?

Bam · 03-02-2015, 08:51 PM

I'm 100% for this, even if it's just goofy fanservice that makes no sense. I'd like to see why/how they would turn back to turtles though.

*Metalwolf* · 03-02-2015, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunstar_Red

It would be a fun idea... but, it would make no sense. Them turning into regular turtles, yes. Super mutants (2003's Adventures in Turtle Sitting), yes. Humans, no. Unless it's a dream episode, then anything goes!

It would be interesting in a dream episode, but other then that, it would be hard for me to suspend disbelief. I could see regular turtles happening, but not humans.

*Powder* · 03-02-2015, 09:09 PM

Nooooo thank you.

*Metalwolf* · 03-02-2015, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Nooooo thank you.

On second thought, I can't help but agree.

*shuriken* · 03-02-2015, 10:01 PM

Sounds better as a fanfic. Did a few sketches of TMNT vs their "human selves". Neat idea, but I wouldn't want an episode of it. Maybe a story in an anthology or something.

*pennydreadful* · 03-02-2015, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunpowder

I'm not on board with the idea, since this show loves to milk the Donnie/April thing, but I can see it having potential. However, it won't happen. Making human renditions of the 4 Turtles (in this show) would require making 4 full-fledged character models - and I don't see the production team being 'bout that life. Especially if it's only for a single episode.

It's fun to think about the idea, though - getting to see the Turtles cease to be "freaks" and live ordinary lives for a little bit. That'd be a cool twist.

I've got zero interest in seeing it in terms of the Donnie/April story - but it would be interesting to explore, especially as the idea of Splinter being de-mutated had been batted about in the past. And if he were reunited properly with Karai (once she was de-mutated), would he feel differently about all of them being a normal human family? Would he want to give his daughter a chance at a normal life, after 15 years of being raised by Shredder?

You could also examine the question of whether the Turtles would still be freaks and outcasts, regardless of whether they had human meat-suits or not? We are talking about people who grew up living in a sewer, after all. Would they embrace the "I love being a turtle" ethos as they realize that it's part of who they are, no matter what? Regardless of whether they're human or not, they're still going to have the same enemies - and I think the boys would realize that they can't take on the likes of Shredder and Tigerclaw as effectively without that mutant edge.

That being said, it could not be done well in a single episode - you'd need at least 2 - 3 episodes to fully portray that the grass is not, in fact, always greener.

It could well be that the show isn't the place for that particular story - but it is still an interesting story, though maybe one better explored by comic or fanfic.

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Originally Posted by Mutant Ninja Anole

The turtles turn into humans, everyone else in the city turns into turtles.

They did that in an episode of Gargoyles, actually: "The Mirror" (episode 5, season 2). One of the villains has the gargs turned to humans and the rest of the people in the city turned to gargs.

senpai · 03-02-2015, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

They did that in an episode of Gargoyles, actually: "The Mirror" (episode 5, season 2). One of the villains has the gargs turned to humans and the rest of the people in the city turned to gargs.

I remember that episode! I thought the gargoyles turned human character designs were SO weird! LOL!

CaliperCat · 03-02-2015, 11:30 PM

I think it could be an interesting concept, so long as they made it more than one episode.

Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I read the title of this thread was Raph being the only turtle to become human, because I get the impression that inside (perhaps deep, deep down inside), he wishes he could be a normal human. I mean, he's always telling the other turtles that they're going to be alone for forever, and people with attitudes like that are generally wishing that their fate were different. He'd keep his ninja skills, of course, but he might have some fun being human, at least until he started missing his family and his home.

One thing I'm apprehensive about would be the process of re-mutating the turtles from their human form back into their turtle form. They were never human to begin with, but I'm assuming that such a transformation might require dipping back into mutagen. We've seen that the stuff tends to be highly unpredictable (with the exception of Bebop and Rocksteady), so unless Donnie used equipment such as that, who knows if the re-mutation would maintain the results of their original mutation, or something completely different (I can just picture Mikey saying, "Dudes, I have a third arm growing out of my forehead!").

FoxBoxKid · 03-03-2015, 12:32 AM

If you think this is a good idea, you're wrong. I remember Transformers Animated did something like that, but it was just a simulation, thank god.

*IndigoErth* · 03-03-2015, 12:36 AM

I know... I have Mikey take up writing and it's just a part of some fiction as written by him. Just some "what if" day dreaming.

Either that, or it's not them that changes but just a peek at another dimension where everything is reversed. Although that would take too much model work for one short thing so a bit unreasonable financially.

*victory_angel* · 03-03-2015, 01:03 AM

Or maybe have it be just a dream. Not to borrow from the OT as we do to much about that already. But it could still be a nod to that episode.

In the OT there was one episode where the Turtles are complaining about how maybe they were better off as regular turtles. And then they all have a vision where they are in a world where they didn't exist as mutant Turtles. Only for it to turn out the whole thing had been a shared dream among the four of them.

So much like Pizza face is a probable dream. Perhaps one of the Turtles wishes to be human even if it's only for one day. So they go to sleep and when they wake up they are human or all of them are human. None of them know how they became human but they think this is the perfect chance to know what it's like to live like humans.

They won't lose their ninja skills or anything...of that nature. But it is likely they are so used to the familiar weight of their shells that they have trouble landing jumps or flips because they have nothing to compensate the lack of that extra weight.

If this occurs after the Kraang are defeated and everyone is returned to normal there could be the cliche one of them gets caught be a Truant Officer and sent to April and Casey's school. Maybe Mikey since he had been so interested in experiencing what school was actually like.

Donnie I can see hanging out at the national library.

Raph I can see actually enjoying the city, seeing what it must be like through the eyes of a human.

Leo would be the only one who would stick to being a ninja and keep tabs on the Shredder or whatever enemy they are facing trying to face. So in otherwords normal ninja training.

But in battle they find themselves struggling with their mutant enemies because they no longer have the protection of their shells either. Then they wake up and it turns out the whole thing was just a dream.

*Candy Kappa* · 03-03-2015, 01:40 AM

Ugh, no thank you. They are turtles, suddenly being turned into humans just feels cheap. Maybe if it was hologram disguises, that only lasted for a short period of time.

*pennydreadful* · 03-03-2015, 03:09 AM

Maybe Donnie could look at making them hologram watches, like Nightcrawler had in Xmen: Evolution. And initially they just use them for important stuff but then they start using them all the time and start wishing they actually were human.

And then at the end of the arc they realize that they're better off being who they are than pretending to be something that they aren't.

Mercer23 · 03-03-2015, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Maybe Donnie could look at making them hologram watches, like Nightcrawler had in Xmen: Evolution. And initially they just use them for important stuff but then they start using them all the time and start wishing they actually were human.

And then at the end of the arc they realize that they're better off being who they are than pretending to be something that they aren't.

He sorta did already. In the New adventures comics, he added a projector to his t-phone that let him turn photos into a disguise and met up with April as Casey. Then it had a glitch where it would pick-up any photo downloaded by anyone nearby.

*plastroncafe* · 03-03-2015, 10:13 AM

Provided we got a NO CREEPER NICE GUY DON guarantee, I'd be interested to see what the writing staff had for something like this.

Gunpowder · 03-03-2015, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I've got zero interest in seeing it in terms of the Donnie/April story - but it would be interesting to explore, especially as the idea of Splinter being de-mutated had been batted about in the past. And if he were reunited properly with Karai (once she was de-mutated), would he feel differently about all of them being a normal human family? Would he want to give his daughter a chance at a normal life, after 15 years of being raised by Shredder?

You could also examine the question of whether the Turtles would still be freaks and outcasts, regardless of whether they had human meat-suits or not? We are talking about people who grew up living in a sewer, after all. Would they embrace the "I love being a turtle" ethos as they realize that it's part of who they are, no matter what? Regardless of whether they're human or not, they're still going to have the same enemies - and I think the boys would realize that they can't take on the likes of Shredder and Tigerclaw as effectively without that mutant edge.

That being said, it could not be done well in a single episode - you'd need at least 2 - 3 episodes to fully portray that the grass is not, in fact, always greener.

It could well be that the show isn't the place for that particular story - but it is still an interesting story, though maybe one better explored by comic or fanfic.

Yeah that's true, huh? They'd still feel out of place even though their appearance has changed and they'd still be dealing with the same foes. I think what would end up happening would be that they come to the realization that they'd rather be Turtles.

But to me, that doesn't sound like it could be official; it sounds like fanfic material. And I prefer it that way, since we can see how that would play out without it actually having happened. I feel it's one of those things that's hypothetically interesting, but not something I want to see in the actual show because it'd throw things off a bit (for me, at least).

Now that you mention Splinter becoming human, I'm wondering if this show will actually make that happen. It might seem like a given that it will in the end, but I'm not so sure. Something tells me it won't.

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If you think this is a good idea, you're wrong. I remember Transformers Animated did something like that, but it was just a simulation, thank god.

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*Raven* · 03-03-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Ugh, no thank you. They are turtles, suddenly being turned into humans just feels cheap.

Never been a fan of human version of the turtles, just as you put it I feel that it takes away from their uniqueness.

*IndigoErth* · 03-03-2015, 01:48 PM

I'm somewhat ok with a one-time episode dealy, better yet just a portion of an episode, but, and no offense to anyone who has done so, but I find most 'human version' fan art/work terribly boring as it is (at least in concept, maybe someone is a good writer otherwise)... The world is saturated with humans, we're a plague upon the planet, we're cliché, been done too many times already, so just why.

*snake* · 03-03-2015, 01:50 PM

That's a stupid idea. Also, sounds like a fanfic.

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shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Sounds better as a fanfic. Did a few sketches of TMNT vs their "human selves". Neat idea, but I wouldn't want an episode of it. Maybe a story in an anthology or something. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

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CaliperCat Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: College Town, USA Posts: 157	I think it could be an interesting concept, so long as they made it more than one episode. Actually, the first thing that came to mind when I read the title of this thread was Raph being the only turtle to become human, because I get the impression that inside (perhaps deep, deep down inside), he wishes he could be a normal human. I mean, he's always telling the other turtles that they're going to be alone for forever, and people with attitudes like that are generally wishing that their fate were different. He'd keep his ninja skills, of course, but he might have some fun being human, at least until he started missing his family and his home. One thing I'm apprehensive about would be the process of re-mutating the turtles from their human form back into their turtle form. They were never human to begin with, but I'm assuming that such a transformation might require dipping back into mutagen. We've seen that the stuff tends to be highly unpredictable (with the exception of Bebop and Rocksteady), so unless Donnie used equipment such as that, who knows if the re-mutation would maintain the results of their original mutation, or something completely different (I can just picture Mikey saying, "Dudes, I have a third arm growing out of my forehead!"). __________________ 100% Jellybean and proud!

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03-03-2015, 01:03 AM	#32
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Or maybe have it be just a dream. Not to borrow from the OT as we do to much about that already. But it could still be a nod to that episode. In the OT there was one episode where the Turtles are complaining about how maybe they were better off as regular turtles. And then they all have a vision where they are in a world where they didn't exist as mutant Turtles. Only for it to turn out the whole thing had been a shared dream among the four of them. So much like Pizza face is a probable dream. Perhaps one of the Turtles wishes to be human even if it's only for one day. So they go to sleep and when they wake up they are human or all of them are human. None of them know how they became human but they think this is the perfect chance to know what it's like to live like humans. They won't lose their ninja skills or anything...of that nature. But it is likely they are so used to the familiar weight of their shells that they have trouble landing jumps or flips because they have nothing to compensate the lack of that extra weight. If this occurs after the Kraang are defeated and everyone is returned to normal there could be the cliche one of them gets caught be a Truant Officer and sent to April and Casey's school. Maybe Mikey since he had been so interested in experiencing what school was actually like. Donnie I can see hanging out at the national library. Raph I can see actually enjoying the city, seeing what it must be like through the eyes of a human. Leo would be the only one who would stick to being a ninja and keep tabs on the Shredder or whatever enemy they are facing trying to face. So in otherwords normal ninja training. But in battle they find themselves struggling with their mutant enemies because they no longer have the protection of their shells either. Then they wake up and it turns out the whole thing was just a dream. __________________ Last edited by victory_angel; 03-03-2015 at 02:08 AM.

03-03-2015, 01:40 AM	#33
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Ugh, no thank you. They are turtles, suddenly being turned into humans just feels cheap. Maybe if it was hologram disguises, that only lasted for a short period of time. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

03-02-2015, 08:45 PM	#21
senpai Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: new york sewers yo! Posts: 673	If the Nick series decides to make the turtles human for an episode, I have complete faith that it's going to be great. I think the Nick series has some great writers for the show. True, there were some episodes that struck me as so-so, but really, '12 TMNT has yet to let me down. I think my least favorite episode was Monkey Brains...and that was mainly because the monkey really scared me. xD Anyway, if it's done right, I think it could be interesting. I just wonder, if they do go down that route, what would be the point? You know what I mean?

03-02-2015, 08:51 PM	#22
Bam Thug Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 61	I'm 100% for this, even if it's just goofy fanservice that makes no sense. I'd like to see why/how they would turn back to turtles though.

03-02-2015, 09:09 PM	#24
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Nooooo thank you.

03-03-2015, 12:36 AM	#31
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	I know... I have Mikey take up writing and it's just a part of some fiction as written by him. Just some "what if" day dreaming. Either that, or it's not them that changes but just a peek at another dimension where everything is reversed. Although that would take too much model work for one short thing so a bit unreasonable financially.

03-03-2015, 03:09 AM	#34
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03-03-2015, 01:48 PM	#39
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	I'm somewhat ok with a one-time episode dealy, better yet just a portion of an episode, but, and no offense to anyone who has done so, but I find most 'human version' fan art/work terribly boring as it is (at least in concept, maybe someone is a good writer otherwise)... The world is saturated with humans, we're a plague upon the planet, we're cliché, been done too many times already, so just why.

03-03-2015, 01:50 PM	#40
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	That's a stupid idea. Also, sounds like a fanfic.