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Old 03-16-2015, 04:45 PM   #81
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Case in point: People making any argument whatsoever for these movies actually happening. Keep telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. It's hysterical.
What's hysterical is you think you're on the same level as therapists only because you people-watch. You're so full of ****.
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Old 03-16-2015, 05:07 PM   #82
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True story? I generally am a very good judge of people and their motivations. I study them. Most people, by and large, don't know themselves at all, and don't even have any idea why they "like" or "dislike" anything they claim to, and when you actually engage them in conversation and pay close attention, it's easy enough to read between the lines and figure them out. It's not exactly an impossible skill to learn; therapists and the like do it all the time. All it takes is the ability to actually pay attention to what people are saying, not wait for one thing you can "call them" on.
Yoooooooo! This is some mad arrogant nonsense, even for you.
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Old 03-16-2015, 09:43 PM   #83
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It speaks. It speaks to me as though invited. It addresses me as if somehow equal. It amuses me. It is mistaken.

It takes no genius whatsoever to plainly see that I was, am, and remain the single most intelligent person in THIS crowd. I have simply grown entirely tired of pretending otherwise.
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Old 03-16-2015, 11:48 PM   #84
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@ Peanut and Cure...Just ignore him now. Obviously with that last post above he's just having fun with it now but before...I mean when someone's best defense is "I'm smarter than you" it really ruins their whole argument. It can't even be taken seriously at that point.

@ Bry, I don't know. I still think the cast is getting way to much credit for why people like it. I would say it's 50-50, good cast/writing with a cool idea.
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Old 03-16-2015, 11:56 PM   #85
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I mean when someone's best defense is "I'm smarter than you" it really ruins their whole argument. It can't even be taken seriously at that point.
Not when it's true. But, whatever makes you feel better.

Nice job on catching that the last part was just being colorful. More perceptive than most folks are.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:09 AM   #86
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Leo, stop feeding the trolls, LOL! You know they always try to bite. And apparently, they can't resist the lure, either.

He IS right, however, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. Most people are pretty easy to "read", and figuring out what makes them tick isn't hard, it just requires some patience and intuition. Something a lot of folks don't seem to have, especially in this day and age of self-gratification and entitlement.

The original Ghostbusters film WAS mostly due to the cast- I will agree with Leo 100% there- and the remainder was due to the script- which, AGAIN was due to Ramis and Ackroyd, not surprisingly. Those guys knew what they were doing, and without them, it never would have even been MADE! And we wouldn't now be arguing over whether a movie re-boot with a new cast is a good idea....
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:53 PM   #87
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Is anyone really arguing "whether a movie reboot is a good idea"?

I'm just stating there are other valid portrayals of the Ghostbusters in other mediums, and the new movies sound like trash.

And I cannot believe some of the other ridiculous ******** being posted in this thread.

What a ****ing joke.
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Oh my, so much arrogance in one thread. One guy think that he can **** on everyone just because, other - that he is the smartest pants in the known universe.
It's like an awkward circus really.

On topic though: Sony is insane or incompetent. The last thing was fairly obvious after what they've done with Spider-Man, though.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:38 PM   #89
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on a related note, the IDW ghostbusters will be teaming up with "The Real" ghost busters"
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Old 03-19-2015, 07:45 PM   #91
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The cast was wonderful, together. Sure, a cast can make a dumb concept work (How else could "road trip" or "buddy cop" become film genres?), but I don't really buy that everyone is just too dumb to realize why they liked the movie. Kids wanted to be Ghostbusters because it was cool to be a Ghostbuster, not because they fantasized about riffing with Bill Murray. That's not why I had my proton pack and ghost trap, anyway.
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The cast was wonderful, together. Sure, a cast can make a dumb concept work (How else could "road trip" or "buddy cop" become film genres?), but I don't really buy that everyone is just too dumb to realize why they liked the movie. Kids wanted to be Ghostbusters because it was cool to be a Ghostbuster, not because they fantasized about riffing with Bill Murray. That's not why I had my proton pack and ghost trap, anyway.
Exactly. What kids even cared or knew Bill and Dan were on SNL? I didn't.

I understand having doubts about reboots but not coming to some backwards conclusion years later that we were too blinded by the cast to see it was a stupid idea for a movie.

It's like the only franchise this has happened to. Usually being against updates its over a new plot or casting or cgi. Which ok but not..."Dumb, I only thought I liked it for this reason". Never seen such bizarre logic for something.

I know that's just one side of it. Not everyone claims that. They just don't like the all-girl idea and the fact it's a reboot. This naysaying only bothers me because it's such an odd version of it.
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Can I ask why the Russo's are the biggest thing in Hollywood right now? They've made a single film, and now they're the "it" directors.
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Outside of the first Ghostbusters movie I've never seen anything else of the franchise, (the cartoons or comics) so what did they do in those series that gave the franchise an actual storyline rather than a one-shot movie? I'm honestly curious. Is the 80's cartoon worth watching for someone who has never seen it before?
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Can I ask why the Russo's are the biggest thing in Hollywood right now? They've made a single film, and now they're the "it" directors.
I haven't seen anyone call them the biggest thing in Hollywood.
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I haven't seen anyone call them the biggest thing in Hollywood.
It's Hyperbole. They're doing this, Civil War, and are in line to take over Avengers from Whedon. They're getting huge.
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It's Hyperbole. They're doing this, Civil War, and are in line to take over Avengers from Whedon. They're getting huge.
Well, the Marvel part makes sense, because they're responsible for the best movie in the MCU.

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Old 03-22-2015, 01:43 AM   #98
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Outside of the first Ghostbusters movie I've never seen anything else of the franchise, (the cartoons or comics) so what did they do in those series that gave the franchise an actual storyline rather than a one-shot movie? I'm honestly curious. Is the 80's cartoon worth watching for someone who has never seen it before?

So you never saw the second movie?! Seriously??!! Y'know, the one with Vigo the Carpathian!! And Dana's tub tried to eat the baby.... Yeah, loved that one. Janine wants to have a baby with the guy that was turned into the demon dog (Rick Moranis' character) in the first one. And we get the Stature of Liberty walking down (I assume) Broadway to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Good times.

And yes, the cartoon was fun, pretty well-written, and in-character. Slimer was a fun addition, and there were a few other call-backs from the movies. And lots of mythology and legends from around the world got tossed into the mix for "villains" and such. We even got a Christmas episode with Ebenezer Scrooge. Yes, THAT Scrooge.
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First movie -> Second movie -> recent-ish Videogame -> IDW comic book is all a continuous story.

The cartoon I believe was supposed to be, according to the show, "the real guys" and the movies were licensed adaptations of their exploits they signed off on, so I guess they happened in some similar way, like they did fight Gozer or whatever but the specifics aren't stated. The first few seasons range from solid to surprisingly good episodes but eventually it kinda goes down hill and I lost interest. I think Extreme picks up years later from there? but I don't really know about that one.

IDW comic feels like the most "meaty"/substantial Ghostbusters you can get into, personally. But I'm not the biggest fan in the world either so I'm sure my opinion isn't the most common one.
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Yeah, the cartoon was supposed to pick up shortly after the first movie (there WAS a five-year gap between the two movie plots in-universe) and thus had several references to Gozar, Stay Puft, and other elements. Rick's character (can NOT remember his name!!) shows up sometimes, and of course Janine is their assistant as in the movies. No Dana, though (guess this was after the "break-up"?) and I think it ended before the second movie came out. Of course, it was a long time ago, so my memory may be slightly faulty. But those are the things I remember, more or less.
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