TMNT vs. Turtles in Time - Page 2

*Andrew NDB* · 03-26-2015, 01:49 AM

They're the same game. Just Final Fight clones with different colored Foot Soldiers and levels. Press those two buttons, fast as you can... maybe if you pick Donatello before the guy next to you, you might get better reach with his bo. Blegh. TMNT as a video game died when the first NES game ended, which was rather inventive (particularly for the time)... highly underrated, even now in a time when people are hunting down the various version of the TMNT arcade game (TMNT 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, pick one... they're all the same game with different badly translated cutscenes).

*Ninjinister* · 03-26-2015, 02:20 AM

We get it, you hate fun.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-26-2015, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

TMNT as a video game died when the first NES game ended, which was rather inventive (particularly for the time)... highly underrated

Andrew, I can at least agree with you heartily that the first NES game was both a creative and underrated release in the system's library. It seems it gets a reputation for being "too different" comparable to some of the Zelda sequels like Adventure of Link or Majora's Mask, and the merciless 30-something gaming public hates it because of that. It wasn't perfect, but it has always been pretty special to me.

*Prowler* · 03-26-2015, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

They're the same game. Just Final Fight clones with different colored Foot Soldiers and levels. Press those two buttons, fast as you can... maybe if you pick Donatello before the guy next to you, you might get better reach with his bo. Blegh. TMNT as a video game died when the first NES game ended, which was rather inventive (particularly for the time)... highly underrated, even now in a time when people are hunting down the various version of the TMNT arcade game (TMNT 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, pick one... they're all the same game with different badly translated cutscenes).

That is true to some degree. Most TMNt games are hardly original and tend to be all of the same kind. Fighting foot soldiers gets boring after a while. that being said, the original arcade game and Turtles in Time for the SNES are two great games and two of the best beat 'em ups ever, imo.

The first NES game would have been great if it wasn't so relentlessly difficult due to bad controls and Donatello being pretty much the only worthy turtle to play as. I'd love to see a 2d TMNT game like the NES one for the SNES/MD without the issues mentioned above. that would have been awesome.

SNES Tournament Fighters was fun despite being an average Street Fighter clone, but still better than most SF clones of the time. The FW cartoon had better games than the 4Kids one had, that's for sure. The GBA games were alright but the console ones were mediocre at best.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-26-2015, 03:17 PM

And people say MY broad-strokes statements are ridiculous. Hoo-boy.

And yeah, if the jumping controls weren't complete dogsh*t, that first game might have a better reputation. The rest of the TMNT games may not have been "innovative" or "ground-breaking", but for the most part, when I play games I'll settle for "fun", "playable", and "halfway decent". I don't need something "unique" or "different"; definitely not at the expense of a game that doesn't fight you the whole time.

The first game was sure "different", but that can't excuse the crappy controls. It's not awful, but saying it's the only TMNT game worth anything is complete nonsense.

*Prowler* · 03-26-2015, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656

And people say MY broad-strokes statements are ridiculous. Hoo-boy.

And yeah, if the jumping controls weren't complete dogsh*t, that first game might have a better reputation. The rest of the TMNT games may not have been "innovative" or "ground-breaking", but for the most part, when I play games I'll settle for "fun", "playable", and "halfway decent". I don't need something "unique" or "different"; definitely not at the expense of a game that doesn't fight you the whole time.

The first game was sure "different", but that can't excuse the crappy controls. It's not awful, but saying it's the only TMNT game worth anything is complete nonsense.

Honestly, I didn't see the game getting universally panned until AVGN reviewed it. Before that it was just a game notorious for being hard like many other NES classic s were. Also, for all that's worth it, it's the highest selling TMNT game to this day and the 6th highest selling NES game behind the 3 SMB and the 2 Zelda games only. It served its purpsoe that was cashing on the TMNT franchise. I think Ghostbusters fans had it way worse than us, tbh. Now that's an awful game. And the 2nd one sucks too.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-26-2015, 03:26 PM

Like I said, controls aside, it's not awful, but I'd actually say it's much more been OVER-rated than vilified in recent years.

Fact is, the vast majority of people who played it can't finish it. Love it or hate it, most people can't beat it no matter how bad they want to. That's poor game design. The game has a ton of things wrong with it that makes it impossible to recommend to anyone who is NOT an obsessive TMNT fan. It's only "hard" because the controls aren't very good and the game itself gives you zero direction. Sure, those things were "just part of the experience" of playing games back then, but there's no need nowadays to pretend those problems don't exist, just because it's got the TMNT sticker on it. It's okay. But it's not great, and by no means "the only one worth playing" or whatever.

*Prowler* · 03-26-2015, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656

Like I said, controls aside, it's not awful, but I'd actually say it's much more been OVER-rated than vilified in recent years.

Fact is, the vast majority of people who played it can't finish it. Love it or hate it, most people can't beat it no matter how bad they want to. That's poor game design. The game has a ton of things wrong with it that makes it impossible to recommend to anyone who is NOT an obsessive TMNT fan. It's only "hard" because the controls aren't very good and the game itself gives you zero direction. Sure, those things were "just part of the experience" of playing games back then, but there's no need nowadays to pretend those problems don't exist, just because it's got the TMNT sticker on it. It's okay. But it's not great, and by no means "the only one worth playing" or whatever.

People actually rate it highly nowadays? As in claiming it to be some sort of forgotten gem? Really?

Well, as for not being able to beat it(I haven't gotten any further than the airport), that can be said about Ghosts 'N' Goblins, Ninja Gaiden, Battle Toads and Zelda II as well. And those aren't bad games.

And yes the controls and Donatello being pretty much the only Turtle worth playing as in the game were what held it back. Enemies respawning added more insult to the injury. And no one ignores its flaws. it's never been considered a great game and it will never be.

ctt4lfecw · 03-26-2015, 04:37 PM

I will always have a soft spot for TMNT '89. Still proud that I beat it. Scrolls are your friend in that game.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-26-2015, 07:09 PM

NES TMNT 1 controls are tight, y'all. Jumping is an art that can be executed with consistency and precision when you get the hang of it. Those who claim it's too difficult aren't worthy of the satisfaction of mastering its gameplay.

*drops mic*

ctt4lfecw · 03-26-2015, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

NES TMNT 1 controls are tight, y'all. Jumping is an art that can be executed with consistency and precision when you get the hang of it. Those who claim it's too difficult aren't worthy of the satisfaction of mastering its gameplay.

*drops mic*

here here! amen brudda

~~Leo656~~ · 03-26-2015, 09:08 PM

Hah. Okay. The old, "It's fine, you just suck at it argument."

The jumping is ass.

Wingnut · 03-27-2015, 12:18 AM

I'm a TiT man.

DonatelloDomeHead31 · 05-21-2015, 09:09 AM

Well...I have had the chance to play both & here's my reason why I picked Turtles in Time as the best:

The Intro! Pizza Power playing in the background, you see the Turtles in action as each scene changes. Awesome.

I got as far as Prehistoric Turtlesaurus when I played the Turtles in Time Arcade Game but for the Ninja Turtles Arcade...I think I got as far as Bebop.

*TheBlueTurtle1* · 05-21-2015, 01:08 PM

Turtles in time is better, but the first one means more to me personally. I used to own that arcade machine, and it was the very first arcade game I ever played. Was on holiday in Florida, and and it was in the lobby, right next to altered Beast.

*The Fifth Turtle* · 05-21-2015, 03:28 PM

IMO nothing will probably ever beat Turtles in Time on SNES.

billbot85 · 06-08-2015, 08:35 PM

TMNT: 1989 for Arcade, Turtles in Time for the SNES. Perhaps I'm biased since I never played the original arcade version of Turtles in Time.

Yabuturtle · 06-22-2015, 11:12 AM

I honestly think the Turtles in time Arcade game is better. I think it had better music, lots of cool stages, and plus the action was better. You could actually run towards your enemy, it had better special moves and you could throw enemies at the screen which was fun. You also fought my favorite tmnt villain, Krang, twice. I did miss fighting villains from the original like Lt. Granitor and General Tragg. Both were great but I like Turtles in Time better.

View Poll Results: TMNT vs. Turtles in Time
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1989)	12	33.33%
Turtles in Time (1991)	24	66.67%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

03-26-2015, 01:49 AM	#21
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,558	They're the same game. Just Final Fight clones with different colored Foot Soldiers and levels. Press those two buttons, fast as you can... maybe if you pick Donatello before the guy next to you, you might get better reach with his bo. Blegh. TMNT as a video game died when the first NES game ended, which was rather inventive (particularly for the time)... highly underrated, even now in a time when people are hunting down the various version of the TMNT arcade game (TMNT 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, pick one... they're all the same game with different badly translated cutscenes). __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-26-2015, 02:20 AM	#22
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	We get it, you hate fun. __________________

03-26-2015, 07:09 PM	#30
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,504	NES TMNT 1 controls are tight, y'all. Jumping is an art that can be executed with consistency and precision when you get the hang of it. Those who claim it's too difficult aren't worthy of the satisfaction of mastering its gameplay. drops mic __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

03-27-2015, 12:18 AM	#33
Wingnut Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pao Pao Café Posts: 1,264	I'm a TiT man. __________________ "I'll be what I wanna do."

03-26-2015, 03:17 PM	#25
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	And people say MY broad-strokes statements are ridiculous. Hoo-boy. And yeah, if the jumping controls weren't complete dogsh*t, that first game might have a better reputation. The rest of the TMNT games may not have been "innovative" or "ground-breaking", but for the most part, when I play games I'll settle for "fun", "playable", and "halfway decent". I don't need something "unique" or "different"; definitely not at the expense of a game that doesn't fight you the whole time. The first game was sure "different", but that can't excuse the crappy controls. It's not awful, but saying it's the only TMNT game worth anything is complete nonsense.

03-26-2015, 03:26 PM	#27
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Like I said, controls aside, it's not awful, but I'd actually say it's much more been OVER-rated than vilified in recent years. Fact is, the vast majority of people who played it can't finish it. Love it or hate it, most people can't beat it no matter how bad they want to. That's poor game design. The game has a ton of things wrong with it that makes it impossible to recommend to anyone who is NOT an obsessive TMNT fan. It's only "hard" because the controls aren't very good and the game itself gives you zero direction. Sure, those things were "just part of the experience" of playing games back then, but there's no need nowadays to pretend those problems don't exist, just because it's got the TMNT sticker on it. It's okay. But it's not great, and by no means "the only one worth playing" or whatever.

03-26-2015, 04:37 PM	#29
ctt4lfecw Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Neutrino Posts: 817	I will always have a soft spot for TMNT '89. Still proud that I beat it. Scrolls are your friend in that game.

03-26-2015, 09:08 PM	#32
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Hah. Okay. The old, "It's fine, you just suck at it argument." The jumping is ass.

05-21-2015, 09:09 AM	#34
DonatelloDomeHead31 Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Helping Casey Jones fix the Pick-Up Truck Posts: 878	Well...I have had the chance to play both & here's my reason why I picked Turtles in Time as the best: The Intro! Pizza Power playing in the background, you see the Turtles in action as each scene changes. Awesome. I got as far as Prehistoric Turtlesaurus when I played the Turtles in Time Arcade Game but for the Ninja Turtles Arcade...I think I got as far as Bebop. __________________ Donatello: Pork rind. Donatello: Yeah, a few inquiries. Donatello: Turtles don't migrate, Raph. Birds do! Donatello: Have you seen the way this guy drives? Donatello: 0.00000003%! Donatello: I don't know, but it doesn't look good...

05-21-2015, 01:08 PM	#35
TheBlueTurtle1 Foot Elite Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,892	Turtles in time is better, but the first one means more to me personally. I used to own that arcade machine, and it was the very first arcade game I ever played. Was on holiday in Florida, and and it was in the lobby, right next to altered Beast. __________________ http://jandmdev.deviantart.com/ (My Brother and I have a dev page, I am J, brother is M)

05-21-2015, 03:28 PM	#36
The Fifth Turtle Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago sewer Posts: 2,488	IMO nothing will probably ever beat Turtles in Time on SNES.

06-08-2015, 08:35 PM	#37
billbot85 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,007	TMNT: 1989 for Arcade, Turtles in Time for the SNES. Perhaps I'm biased since I never played the original arcade version of Turtles in Time. __________________ MY COMPLETE WISH LIST: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...03#post1120403 GIFSoup

06-22-2015, 11:12 AM	#38
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	I honestly think the Turtles in time Arcade game is better. I think it had better music, lots of cool stages, and plus the action was better. You could actually run towards your enemy, it had better special moves and you could throw enemies at the screen which was fun. You also fought my favorite tmnt villain, Krang, twice. I did miss fighting villains from the original like Lt. Granitor and General Tragg. Both were great but I like Turtles in Time better.