The Sega Thread!

[Wingnut]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Remove the bolded and I think you have a far more interesting discussion.

Sonic CD was solid, that's all I'd have to add to that discussion.

[Cure]

I remember buying Sonic CD on the 360 and being super excited since I never played it and so many people claimed it was the best 2D Sonic ever.

That's when I learned that people are filthy liars.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Wingnut

Sonic CD was solid, that's all I'd have to add to that discussion.

What about Sonic 2? Best Sonic game by far, imo. 3 & Knuckles was nice, too. 1... has some flaws.

[Mew]

Originally Posted by Cure

I remember buying Sonic CD on the 360 and being super excited since I never played it and so many people claimed it was the best 2D Sonic ever.

That's when I learned that people are filthy liars.

Spoiler:

[Ninjinister]

Don't we have a Sonic thread already?

[Mew]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Don't we have a Sonic thread already?

Not just about Sonic, about Sega in general.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Prowler

I have played Sonic 3d Blast before(I own the GC version of Sonic Collection) and it was pretty bad. It was the MD/Genesis version but what's different in the Saturn version other than better graphics?

Agreed on the motion sickness part, btw.

Better graphics and music, I believe.

Probably no better in the "not giving you ****ing motion sickness" department, though.

Originally Posted by Cure

I remember buying Sonic CD on the 360 and being super excited since I never played it and so many people claimed it was the best 2D Sonic ever.

That's when I learned that people are filthy liars.

Yeah, I played it way back when and the first time I saw people on the internet claiming it was so good really confused me. My Sega CD hardly worked at all so I can't imagine how anybody managed to even play past a few levels.

I got the Steam release of the game, but I still haven't played much of it. It's... weird.

3 and Knuckles was a masterpiece, though. I'll never understand people that preferred 2, when 3/Knuckles was literally the same game with longer levels and better playable characters. There's nothing better than playing as Tails, let me tell you.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

3 and Knuckles was a masterpiece, though. I'll never understand people that preferred 2, when 3/Knuckles was literally the same game with longer levels and better playable characters.

Nah. 2 is the gold standard of Sonic games. 3 and Knuckles are both overwrought as all f*ck. The level design is all over the place, because you have a character in Knuckles who outright breaks Sonic level design and they try to account for it ever so slightly, but not near enough to make it work properly. Sonic 2 is beautiful in it's simplicity in that respect, while still being more complex than the relatively barren Sonic 1.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Nah. 2 is the gold standard of Sonic games. 3 and Knuckles are both overwrought as all f*ck. The level design is all over the place, because you have a character in Knuckles who outright breaks Sonic level design and they try to account for it ever so slightly, but not near enough to make it work properly. Sonic 2 is beautiful in it's simplicity in that respect, while still being more complex than the relatively barren Sonic 1.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles is fine but it has the issues you've mentioned and I also think the levels are a bit too long. They just drag and drag.

[Peanut]

Indeed. The level design in both are poor. There are some standouts, but mostly it all just feels like far too much. Longer levels weren't a positive IMO.

[Netkeeper]

I found them a positive, personally. They weren't too long where timing out was something that happened when you knew what you were doing [though I will admit it did happen to me] and I like all the different parts of a level to explore. I like being rewarded when I fly around like crazy. You couldn't even fly at all in 2.

Sure, 2 was great, but after playing 3 and Knuckles I don't like going back.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

I found them a positive, personally. They weren't too long where timing out was something that happened when you knew what you were doing [though I will admit it did happen to me] and I like all the different parts of a level to explore. I like being rewarded when I fly around like crazy. You couldn't even fly at all in 2.

Sure, 2 was great, but after playing 3 and Knuckles I don't like going back.

The first two zones weren't dragged out, although Angel island zone act 2 had a bit of a frustrating level design if I recall. Hydrocity Zone was great, though.

Marble Garden Zone was boring and just went on and on and on and on ugh... Carnival Night Zone wasn't as bad but still kinda dragged on a bit.

[Netkeeper]

Marble Garden is my favourite zone in any Sonic game. ;n;

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Marble Garden is my favourite zone in any Sonic game. ;n;

It's one of my least favorites.

Favorite zone? Chemical Plant Zone or Hydrocity Zone, perhaps.

[Bizarro]

Sonic was the first game I ever played on Sega, on my first console...Never forget

I did play Mario, but it was on a friends console until I got mine

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Marble Garden is my favourite zone in any Sonic game. ;n;

Oh, man. I've never heard anything but contempt for Marble Garden! What do you like about it exactly?

[Mew]

I like Chemical Plant and Blue Hill Zone.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Oh, man. I've never heard anything but contempt for Marble Garden! What do you like about it exactly?

Its music, scenery, breath of fresh air after A ****ING WATER LEVEL, so many areas to fly around in, and those grasshopper enemies -- I used to love trying to time my jumps right so I could hit one after the other without touching the ground.

Oh and the boss, the best part!

[DarkFell]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Its music, scenery, breath of fresh air after A ****ING WATER LEVEL, so many areas to fly around in, and those grasshopper enemies -- I used to love trying to time my jumps right so I could hit one after the other without touching the ground.

Oh and the boss, the best part!

Marble Garden was alright, although it was a lot more fun IMO getting all of the Emeralds. It was almost for survival's sake just to get Knuckles to collect the Chaos Emeralds; otherwise I would feel nothing but contempt beating Mecha-Robotnik at the end of the level.

Carnival Night was okay, Ice Cap was fun when Sonic was snowboarding down the snow mountain and throughout the zone, and I would have to say that Mushroom Hill, Lava Reef, Sky Sanctuary, Death Egg, and Doomsday were my fave levels because I usually still had either the Chaos Emeralds or the Super Emeralds at those levels.

[TMNT_Guy]

Pulseman is one of my favorite Genesis games, but since we’re talking about the classic Sonic platformers.

Sonic 1 is good, though I much prefer the Master System version. Sonic 2 is my least favortie in the trilogy. The game starts to drag on for me by Hill Top Zone. By the time I get to Oil Ocean Zone I'm bored and by the time I get to Metropolis Zone Act 3 I'm ready to turn the game off. It picks up from Sky Chase and on though. Thought Sonic Spinball was fun. Sonic 3 & Knuckles is my favorite in the classic trilogy. Sonic CD is good, but it’s designed with exploration in mind so it’s best played like a Metroidvania type game. Sonic 3D Blast doesn’t do anything wrong, but it doesn’t do anything interesting either. The music (both versions) was good though. Knuckles’ Chaotix is one of the most boring games I’ve ever played, but the graphics and music are great.

Sonic 2 for the Master System would have been alright if finding all the Chaos Emeralds wasn’t such a chore. Sonic Chaos and Triple Trouble are fun but they both have terribly frustrating Special Stages. Tails Adventure is a fun little Metroidvania game that I think needs more attention.