What do you dislike most about the 2014 film?

*Xav* · 04-06-2015, 05:04 PM

If you had to pick one thing you dislike most about the 2014 film what would it be?

*IndigoErth* · 04-06-2015, 05:27 PM

Just one? Gah, that's hard. Ok, strictly looking at the whole movie (as opposed to another disliked aspect that's character spacific):

The April Movie
guest starring TMNT

AKA perspective. (Blame it on writing or directing, take your pick.)

*TurtleTitan97* · 04-06-2015, 05:32 PM

Hard to say, since I felt that everything about this film sucked. But if I had to choose just 1 thing, it's the writing. That really sucked.

*Powder* · 04-06-2015, 06:28 PM

The writing.

The script is the reason everyone is interconnected, that there are unnecessary/changed characters, that the characterization is off, that the turtles having been super soldier lab experiments who learned their moves from a pamphlet in a language none of them know how to read, that humans are the stars, etc. Virtually everything bad short of the designs are the fault of those who conceptualized/wrote the film. & it's just got straight up bad dialogue, to make matters worse.

The editing & cinematography were average, I guess, barring plotholes (which again, are fault of the writing). The directing, well, I dunno that any director could have saved the film. Some of the actors are talented people, but they had a bum script. You can't make a bum script work, no matter how good you are, with or without competent direction. The designs really rubbed me the wrong way from the very beginning, but after sitting through that film, they were practically the least offensive thing about it, ironically, as they were what initially had fans waging a war against the production team.

*pennydreadful* · 04-06-2015, 06:56 PM

If I had to pick just one, I'd have to say the writing also.

senpai · 04-06-2015, 06:59 PM

My vote was for the writing. But it's hard to choose just one considering how important each one is when making a film.

*shuriken* · 04-06-2015, 07:06 PM

The Actors did a decent job with what they had.
The DIrector did what he could.
The Designs were... gross at best.
Probably the writing. Although the editors could not pace a film for squat. It's all over the place. Although editing is harder for a badly written film so Writing.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 04-06-2015, 07:13 PM

The writing... although maybe it could be said to be the editing.

Specifically,

Eric Sachs and the Shredder
No backstory for Hamato Yoshi/Splinter
Learning ninjitsu from a book
Vern F'ing Fenwick
Sachs' "stupid rich" scheme
Mutagen as a cure to obvious poison gas

Those were my main gripes about the movie.

I didn't hate Megan Fox as April, and I mostly liked the Turtles' new designs. Well, except for being seven-foot-tall giants.

*Shark_Blade* · 04-06-2015, 07:44 PM

Writing/plot sequence could be better.

April is perfect though.

*Eiko* · 04-06-2015, 08:57 PM

The writing mostly, plus no idea why they just did not just have Sachs be Baxter. instead of making a boring no point character.

*TrickOrTreater* · 04-06-2015, 09:06 PM

All of it. Every last bit.

**Jester** · 04-06-2015, 09:11 PM

I'll throw my hat in with "writing" because like has been said, all the stage direction, dialogue, action beats, all of it is from the script.

*Bry* · 04-06-2015, 09:24 PM

Yyyeah. Writing, lumped in as "general 'creative' decisions". The plot/script was the first domino in a long, ugly trail of awful decisions.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 04-06-2015, 09:31 PM

You could point to the editor, and blame them, but after seeing the outages, and what they shot, the writing was terrible.

But so was everything else. Everything on the list sucked.

I still voted designs, because they are the most heart breaking.

*IndigoErth* · 04-06-2015, 10:15 PM

Dunno if editors would be directly to blame, wouldn't the director or Bay or someone probably still check in on how that's going and give direction?

Poor editors probably got handed footage and went:

'Course... if they're Bay company editors by chance then they probably understand the..."process."

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 04-06-2015, 11:40 PM

I went with writing. Overall, I had few issues with the movie, but the ones I DID have were all in the writing and especially some of the plot holes, the villains' "scheme", and Sachs' dialog in particular. Everything else, I was fine with. Unlike most, I had few problems with the character designs, in fact, once I got over the "oddness" of their looks, I actually liked them. Except for the size. But yeah, my biggest issues with the movie were in the script.

Kanon · 04-07-2015, 03:27 AM

I went with writing.
I AM on the lovers side, but even I can´t defend the stupid Idea how they learned ninjutsu from a book. When I heard that I was like:

**Jester** · 04-07-2015, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Sacks

I want you to drain every ounce of their blood, even if it kills them!

*Shark_Blade* · 04-07-2015, 05:58 AM

Eric Sacks is a great actor despite the occasional bad lines and writing he's been given.

"Draining their blood even if it kills them" line could be looked at as him being pure sarcastic.

"You two are so cute I could pinch your cheeks" *starts shooting gun* .. I guess he forgot how to martial art. Ah bless.

*turtlefanforever* · 04-07-2015, 07:15 AM

i pretty much hate everything equally. But has to be writing. The plot and everything. How it focus' almost souley on 'April'. The turtles wouldn't have been in the movie at all if they were somehow involved in her life. Literally they could make the second movie without them and be all about april and it could seem the right thing because of how much they focused on her in the movie.

Can't help but think the movie would be slightly even if it's an infinitesimal amount less cringe-worthy if the designs weren't so bad though. It'd still be godawful, but at least we wouldn't have to be pissed off about big hulking turtles the whole time.

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04-06-2015, 05:04 PM	#1
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,037	What do you dislike most about the 2014 film? If you had to pick one thing you dislike most about the 2014 film what would it be?

04-06-2015, 05:32 PM	#3
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	Hard to say, since I felt that everything about this film sucked. But if I had to choose just 1 thing, it's the writing. That really sucked. __________________

04-06-2015, 06:56 PM	#5
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	If I had to pick just one, I'd have to say the writing also. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

04-06-2015, 07:06 PM	#7
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	The Actors did a decent job with what they had. The DIrector did what he could. The Designs were... gross at best. Probably the writing. Although the editors could not pace a film for squat. It's all over the place. Although editing is harder for a badly written film so Writing. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

04-06-2015, 05:27 PM	#2
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,287	Just one? Gah, that's hard. Ok, strictly looking at the whole movie (as opposed to another disliked aspect that's character spacific): The April Movie guest starring TMNT AKA perspective. (Blame it on writing or directing, take your pick.)

04-06-2015, 06:28 PM	#4
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	The writing. The script is the reason everyone is interconnected, that there are unnecessary/changed characters, that the characterization is off, that the turtles having been super soldier lab experiments who learned their moves from a pamphlet in a language none of them know how to read, that humans are the stars, etc. Virtually everything bad short of the designs are the fault of those who conceptualized/wrote the film. & it's just got straight up bad dialogue, to make matters worse. The editing & cinematography were average, I guess, barring plotholes (which again, are fault of the writing). The directing, well, I dunno that any director could have saved the film. Some of the actors are talented people, but they had a bum script. You can't make a bum script work, no matter how good you are, with or without competent direction. The designs really rubbed me the wrong way from the very beginning, but after sitting through that film, they were practically the least offensive thing about it, ironically, as they were what initially had fans waging a war against the production team.

04-06-2015, 06:59 PM	#6
senpai Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: new york sewers yo! Posts: 673	My vote was for the writing. But it's hard to choose just one considering how important each one is when making a film.

04-06-2015, 07:13 PM	#8
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	The writing... although maybe it could be said to be the editing. Specifically, Eric Sachs and the Shredder No backstory for Hamato Yoshi/Splinter Learning ninjitsu from a book Vern F'ing Fenwick Sachs' "stupid rich" scheme Mutagen as a cure to obvious poison gas Those were my main gripes about the movie. I didn't hate Megan Fox as April, and I mostly liked the Turtles' new designs. Well, except for being seven-foot-tall giants. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

04-06-2015, 07:44 PM	#9
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Writing/plot sequence could be better. April is perfect though.

04-06-2015, 08:57 PM	#10
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	The writing mostly, plus no idea why they just did not just have Sachs be Baxter. instead of making a boring no point character. __________________

04-06-2015, 09:11 PM	#12
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	I'll throw my hat in with "writing" because like has been said, all the stage direction, dialogue, action beats, all of it is from the script. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

04-06-2015, 09:24 PM	#13
Bry So Long, Stinktown! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,463	Yyyeah. Writing, lumped in as "general 'creative' decisions". The plot/script was the first domino in a long, ugly trail of awful decisions. __________________ My Stuff: Webcomic \| Podcast \| DeviantArt \| YouTube \| Patreon

04-06-2015, 09:31 PM	#14
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	You could point to the editor, and blame them, but after seeing the outages, and what they shot, the writing was terrible. But so was everything else. Everything on the list sucked. I still voted designs, because they are the most heart breaking.

04-06-2015, 10:15 PM	#15
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,287	Dunno if editors would be directly to blame, wouldn't the director or Bay or someone probably still check in on how that's going and give direction? Poor editors probably got handed footage and went: 'Course... if they're Bay company editors by chance then they probably understand the..."process."

04-06-2015, 11:40 PM	#16
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	I went with writing. Overall, I had few issues with the movie, but the ones I DID have were all in the writing and especially some of the plot holes, the villains' "scheme", and Sachs' dialog in particular. Everything else, I was fine with. Unlike most, I had few problems with the character designs, in fact, once I got over the "oddness" of their looks, I actually liked them. Except for the size. But yeah, my biggest issues with the movie were in the script. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

04-07-2015, 03:27 AM	#17
Kanon Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 560	I went with writing. I AM on the lovers side, but even I can´t defend the stupid Idea how they learned ninjutsu from a book. When I heard that I was like: __________________ "The enemy of my enemy is my bro!"

04-07-2015, 05:58 AM	#19
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Eric Sacks is a great actor despite the occasional bad lines and writing he's been given. "Draining their blood even if it kills them" line could be looked at as him being pure sarcastic. "You two are so cute I could pinch your cheeks" starts shooting gun .. I guess he forgot how to martial art. Ah bless.

04-07-2015, 07:15 AM	#20
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	hmm i pretty much hate everything equally. But has to be writing. The plot and everything. How it focus' almost souley on 'April'. The turtles wouldn't have been in the movie at all if they were somehow involved in her life. Literally they could make the second movie without them and be all about april and it could seem the right thing because of how much they focused on her in the movie. Can't help but think the movie would be slightly even if it's an infinitesimal amount less cringe-worthy if the designs weren't so bad though. It'd still be godawful, but at least we wouldn't have to be pissed off about big hulking turtles the whole time.