Simpsons DVDs Discontinued

[Leo656]

Not particularly, actually. I partake of and enjoy lots of things. I simply never treat anything as if it's perfect; I enjoy the fun in what I'm given while simultaneously suggesting ways it can be improved. Contrary to popular internet belief, you can be "satisfied" with something and still critical of it at the same time.

But yeah I probably wouldn't have about 800 DVDs and a comparable number of video games if I was all that hard to please, yea? If anything, I'm too accepting. I just don't stay quiet if there's something I *didn't* like, and have no problem at all being critical even of things I greatly enjoy. That used to be a thing people did. Now, thanks to interwebs, you either have to completely love or hate something. I don't really work that way, though.

I'm constantly busy and entertained and I'm never, ever bored, so yeah, I'm actually pretty easy.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Katie

What I'm saying is that the market demand drives what businesses do. People who live in areas where digital media is hard to get or use are in the minority in the country. Ad Duckie said, they still do make physical copies of media, but it's a small amount. Because people who buy them are the minority of consumers.

Additionally, if you and the people in you market demand better quality Internet, it will happen eventually.

You people live in much more urban areas than I do. New Jersey? Indiana? Somewhere where you can walk to a Taco Bell and go to work? I live in Alabama. On a mountain. In the woods. And guess what? People in my area wanted better internet and flooded Charter with requests. And I used to get no cell signal until I bugged the crap out of Verizon and got a signal booster installed.

Mostly what I'm hearing and seeing are people who expect businesses to cater to what they need without being vocal about it. If your position is that there are a lot of people who prefer physical copies of media, then those people should put their money where their mouth is and let businesses know that they want to buy physical copies of media.

If you can't afford to do that, which is basically what I'm hearing, and you can't afford to have digital media. Well businesses don't really care about you because you are not their customer

It's like voting. You can't just sit around and b!tch about what is going on and how the politicians aren't doing something for you. You didn't vote for them or anyone else. Why should they care. Buying stuff from businesses is how they know people want something. If you don't buy you aren't their customer and they have no obligation to do anything for you

Wow. Really? It's also the whole "You don't vote so you can't complain" BS again? Guess what. I'm a citizen of this country, and if I want to complain about how politicians are ruining this country, I have every right to do so. I don't vote because I don't trust said politicians because they only care about themselves and not anyone in the country, so I have the right not to vote. Once again, it's this elitist bullsh*t of "Well you have to do this or that or else." F*ck that noise. I live in the country, so where I'm at, we just don't have the means to have Wi-Fi. And there's nothing we can do about that anyway, so we're stuck. And just like I have the right to complain about the crooked politicians, I also have the right to be upset that everything is going digital. Physical media isn't dead yet, but that's not to say it won't die out, and for people like me who don't have access to good quality Internet, we're pretty much screwed. And I have every right to be upset about it. Stop telling me what I can and can't do.

[Katie]

Yep. And while you sit and complain and do nothing to better your situation, the world moves on and no one notices you.

Again, businesses do what they have to in response to market demands. You can be mad all you want to but unless a large majority of people who share your beliefs begin buying DVDs, they're gonna be gone. My guess is in less than a decade

But don't mind me. I only analyze businesses for a living. I make my living understanding why businesses do what they do and where businesses are heading in the future. Newsflash. It isn't based on evil plots or keeping tiny minorities of consumers happy.

The ignorance of how businesses work in this discussion astounds me. Lots of conspiracy theory BS and expectations that market demands shouldn't matter.

[Leo656]

I'm personally pretty "astounded" by how easy it is to know everything about a person's life situation and how to improve it, and even every single thing they ever have or haven't done to improve it, all based on the tiny little bit of information they feel comfortable enough to share with total strangers on a message board.

Of all the things I've ever learned on The Technodrome, "People struggle because they actually just want to" just may be the most important. I never would have considered that to be the case, considering the overwhelming amount of real-life evidence to the contrary!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

So you're basically telling people like me who live in the country who can't get wireless Internet because it's not available here and someone who has broadband Internet where you only get 5GB of data to use every month and if you go over that you get charged for every additional data usage to just adapt or die? Sorry, not going to happen. It's fine for people who have access to good Internet, but as has been stated by Leo, Duckie, and myself, it's just not possible. Not everyone has that type of access, so to just say, "Hey, you need to deal with or miss out" is pretty stupid and narrow-minded.

I'm with Leo in that everyone needs options. Keep the digital but provide physical copies for those who just can't afford to have Netflix or whatever else is out there. You'll generate sales from the people who can't have the digital stuff. And for the record, I still buy CDs and I have no problem with that. Same goes with books.

Just my two cents. Take it or leave it.

Exactly. The sales ARE there- at least when those of us who want them can GET them!

Originally Posted by Katie

What I'm saying is that the market demand drives what businesses do. People who live in areas where digital media is hard to get or use are in the minority in the country. As Duckie said, they still do make physical copies of media, but it's a small amount. Because people who buy them are the minority of consumers.

Additionally, if you and the people in you market demand better quality Internet, it will happen eventually.

You people live in much more urban areas than I do. New Jersey? Indiana? Somewhere where you can walk to a Taco Bell and go to work? I live in Alabama. On a mountain. In the woods. And guess what? People in my area wanted better internet and flooded Charter with requests. And I used to get no cell signal until I bugged the crap out of Verizon and got a signal booster installed.

Mostly what I'm hearing and seeing are people who expect businesses to cater to what they need without being vocal about it. If your position is that there are a lot of people who prefer physical copies of media, then those people should put their money where their mouth is and let businesses know that they want to buy physical copies of media.

If you can't afford to do that, which is basically what I'm hearing, and you can't afford to have digital media. Well businesses don't really care about you because you are not their customer

It's like voting. You can't just sit around and b!tch about what is going on and how the politicians aren't doing something for you. You didn't vote for them or anyone else. Why should they care. Buying stuff from businesses is how they know people want something. If you don't buy you aren't their customer and they have no obligation to do anything for you.

Last I checked, you "vote" for what you want businesses to do with your wallet. And I DO. Heck, if/when they get stuff I want where I live, I buy them as soon as I can. If not, I'll often buy it on Amazon if there's no other way. So your barking up the wrong tree- most of us who prefer the DVD format (or can't GET digital) vote with our wallets all the time. So, yes, we ARE being vocal- by creating the very demand you claim doesn't exist!

This also leads me to another point- there's a big difference between analyzing businesses for a living, and WORKING in them. I have. I've worked at the actual "business" end of things for long enough to understand how THAT side of it works. When you provide what people want, they WILL buy it. But if it's not available, how CAN they buy it? Your argument makes no sense from a simply "nobody's buying" standpoint- because I've already SAID they ARE. I see it every day. But if there's not ENOUGH supply to keep up with the demand, the numbers are simply going to show "no sales". Well, NO $H*T! And you can't tell me the companies aren't doing that on purpose, they're trying to DRIVE the business into digital, because it's cheaper and easier for THEM. Has more to do with the bottom line than what customers actually want.

Also, for the record, I live in a VERY small town with about 5000 people. In the middle of nowhere. I walk to work (which is tow miles ONE WAY, BTW) because I don't have a car, NOT because it's a quick jaunt down the street. It's actually on the other side of town from me, but hey, you suck it up, right?!!

And you're right, some of us can't afford a Netflix account even if we DID have the "good" net-access that your "majority" do. (PS- I've got news for you, despite what you may believe, the MAJORITY of the country lives IN THE COUNTRY.) The population of mid-American small farm communities and backwater rural areas IS the majority of the US population. That is a fact. It's actually the big-city, urban, high-density areas that are the minority, despite what you might think. Case in point- Texas is the second largest AND second most populous state- and MOST of that population is spread out over the entire state, with only about three or four cities comprising the rest.

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Wow. Really? It's also the whole "You don't vote so you can't complain" BS again? Guess what. I'm a citizen of this country, and if I want to complain about how politicians are ruining this country, I have every right to do so. I don't vote because I don't trust said politicians because they only care about themselves and not anyone in the country, so I have the right not to vote. Once again, it's this elitist bullsh*t of "Well you have to do this or that or else." F*ck that noise. I live in the country, so where I'm at, we just don't have the means to have Wi-Fi. And there's nothing we can do about that anyway, so we're stuck. And just like I have the right to complain about the crooked politicians, I also have the right to be upset that everything is going digital. Physical media isn't dead yet, but that's not to say it won't die out, and for people like me who don't have access to good quality Internet, we're pretty much screwed. And I have every right to be upset about it. Stop telling me what I can and can't do.

Yeah, I hate when people make that statement, as if by NOT voting "FOR" something/one, we're not using our voice. Fact is, the refusal to choose between two equally bad options IS using your voice, by not choosing EITHER. I am registered, but I haven't voted in four years, because I'm just disgusted by the whole corrupt process and the morally bankrupt people in office. I'd rather not waste my time voting my "voice" when it doesn't even matter, because the popular vote stopped being important YEARS ago. Now it's just whoever can grease the most palms.

Originally Posted by Katie

Yep. And while you sit and complain and do nothing to better your situation, the world moves on and no one notices you.

Again, businesses do what they have to in response to market demands. You can be mad all you want to but unless a large majority of people who share your beliefs begin buying DVDs, they're gonna be gone. My guess is in less than a decade

But don't mind me. I only analyze businesses for a living. I make my living understanding why businesses do what they do and where businesses are heading in the future. Newsflash. It isn't based on evil plots or keeping tiny minorities of consumers happy.

The ignorance of how businesses work in this discussion astounds me. Lots of conspiracy theory BS and expectations that market demands shouldn't matter.

No one said anything about "evil conspiracies" but you. Quit putting words in people's mouths. Fact is, businesses look at the least costly/most profitable option, and drive the market toward it through whatever advertising or sales gimmicks they can come up with. Like touting the "convenience" of digital media (which is coincidentally cheaper for them- go figure ). And as I mentioned above, analyzing business models is one thing. But watching them at work every day from the ground-level is another. It's easy to say they are following demand when that's all you see is the numbers, but when you see how that demand is being created in the "field", and see the FACES behind those numbers, it's a whole different story.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Katie

Yep. And while you sit and complain and do nothing to better your situation, the world moves on and no one notices you.

Again, businesses do what they have to in response to market demands. You can be mad all you want to but unless a large majority of people who share your beliefs begin buying DVDs, they're gonna be gone. My guess is in less than a decade

But don't mind me. I only analyze businesses for a living. I make my living understanding why businesses do what they do and where businesses are heading in the future. Newsflash. It isn't based on evil plots or keeping tiny minorities of consumers happy.

The ignorance of how businesses work in this discussion astounds me. Lots of conspiracy theory BS and expectations that market demands shouldn't matter.

The only thing I CAN do is buy DVDs, which I do. My mom and I always buy DVDs, but it won't matter if more people switch to digital because the businesses are going to listen to them rather than us. And instead of you being understanding about the fact that there are people out there who can't help the situation they're in, you just say, "Oh, suck it up." This is why I hate America as much as I do because of people like you who have no idea why people live the way they do and make half-a**sed assumptions despite all of us explaining our situation multiple times.

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm personally pretty "astounded" by how easy it is to know everything about a person's life situation and how to improve it, and even every single thing they ever have or haven't done to improve it, all based on the tiny little bit of information they feel comfortable enough to share with total strangers on a message board.

Of all the things I've ever learned on The Technodrome, "People struggle because they actually just want to" just may be the most important. I never would have considered that to be the case, considering the overwhelming amount of real-life evidence to the contrary!

Well said, Leo, and I couldn't have said it better myself. It's like if someone said to me, "Well, you graduated from college but can't get a job because of the economy. Just suck it up and get over it." It's not like I asked for the economy to take a sh*t when it did. I've tried to get jobs, but nobody wants me because you either have to have retail experience to be a cashier, lift a certain number of pounds, know medical terminology, and sh*t like that. Oh, and don't forget the tutoring site who pretty much f*cked me over even after I did a practice session twice so they could assess my skills and sent me an e-mail saying, "Oh, sorry, you're not right for us so we don't want you." So after my account was suspended, I tried again, and they put me on a waiting list and never even got back to me for MONTHS. But, hey, I should just suck it up, right? I got myself in this situation, right? Once again, gotta love how narrow-minded America is.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Exactly. The sales ARE there- at least when those of us who want them can GET them!





Last I checked, you "vote" for what you want businesses to do with your wallet. And I DO. Heck, if/when they get stuff I want where I live, I buy them as soon as I can. If not, I'll often buy it on Amazon if there's no other way. So your barking up the wrong tree- most of us who prefer the DVD format (or can't GET digital) vote with our wallets all the time. So, yes, we ARE being vocal- by creating the very demand you claim doesn't exist!

This also leads me to another point- there's a big difference between analyzing businesses for a living, and WORKING in them. I have. I've worked at the actual "business" end of things for long enough to understand how THAT side of it works. When you provide what people want, they WILL buy it. But if it's not available, how CAN they buy it? Your argument makes no sense from a simply "nobody's buying" standpoint- because I've already SAID they ARE. I see it every day. But if there's not ENOUGH supply to keep up with the demand, the numbers are simply going to show "no sales". Well, NO $H*T! And you can't tell me the companies aren't doing that on purpose, they're trying to DRIVE the business into digital, because it's cheaper and easier for THEM. Has more to do with the bottom line than what customers actually want.

Also, for the record, I live in a VERY small town with about 5000 people. In the middle of nowhere. I walk to work (which is tow miles ONE WAY, BTW) because I don't have a car, NOT because it's a quick jaunt down the street. It's actually on the other side of town from me, but hey, you suck it up, right?!!

And you're right, some of us can't afford a Netflix account even if we DID have the "good" net-access that your "majority" do. (PS- I've got news for you, despite what you may believe, the MAJORITY of the country lives IN THE COUNTRY.) The population of mid-American small farm communities and backwater rural areas IS the majority of the US population. That is a fact. It's actually the big-city, urban, high-density areas that are the minority, despite what you might think. Case in point- Texas is the second largest AND second most populous state- and MOST of that population is spread out over the entire state, with only about three or four cities comprising the rest.





Yeah, I hate when people make that statement, as if by NOT voting "FOR" something/one, we're not using our voice. Fact is, the refusal to choose between two equally bad options IS using your voice, by not choosing EITHER. I am registered, but I haven't voted in four years, because I'm just disgusted by the whole corrupt process and the morally bankrupt people in office. I'd rather not waste my time voting my "voice" when it doesn't even matter, because the popular vote stopped being important YEARS ago. Now it's just whoever can grease the most palms.





No one said anything about "evil conspiracies" but you. Quit putting words in people's mouths. Fact is, businesses look at the least costly/most profitable option, and drive the market toward it through whatever advertising or sales gimmicks they can come up with. Like touting the "convenience" of digital media (which is coincidentally cheaper for them- go figure ). And as I mentioned above, analyzing business models is one thing. But watching them at work every day from the ground-level is another. It's easy to say they are following demand when that's all you see is the numbers, but when you see how that demand is being created in the "field", and see the FACES behind those numbers, it's a whole different story.

Exactly. We're sharing our voice by using our money to vote with our wallet, but if there are people out there who are choosing digital over physical copies, it won't matter what we do because they won't listen to us anyway. And, newsflash, politicians are the same way. They don't care about you or anything you have to say. So if you want to vote for them, go ahead. But that doesn't make you better than me just because you choose to vote and I don't. I have my reasons, and even if you may not agree with my assessment, that doesn't give you the right to look down on me or anyone else, Katie. Get off your high horse. I agree with Duckie and Leo here. Have some compassion for people instead of acting like you're better than us.

[ProactiveMan]

Approaching Blu-ray my ass McBain.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

No one said anything about "evil conspiracies" but you.

You guys are talking about how companies are making plans to phase out DVD's and making digital the norm. A group making secret plans that will do harm is literally the definition of conspiracy.

[Katie]

Oh my god

Let's recap what I said here: yes the way you let businesses know what you want is with your wallet. I said that. Even if you buy every single thing that comes out, you are in the minority of consumers now. It would take millions of people suddenly deciding to buy DVDs to change the direction that entertainment is taking.

I analyze businesses but I do also work for one and have worked for them. I started my working life in a retail pet store. Know what the difference in me and you Is, Duckie? I wasn't satisfied to sit back in a low paying retail job forever. It was a great seven year experience, but I was only working there so I could pay my way through college an have a better life than I was born to. So do not act all high and mighty because you think working at a Taco Bell gives you some great insight into business. It does not. You aren't even a decision maker in the store you work in. At least I was a manager eventually in that pet store.

All I have been saying all along in every post until now was that businesses are going to do what the market dictates that they do or they will go out of business. That's it. But you guys lack serious reading comprehension and took what I said as some sort of personal insult to you individually and took it upon yourselves to attack me. It was not a personal attack ever. Businesses adapt or die. Never was talking about people. But since you three have taken it there, I can dish it back.

And yes Leo it is absolutely astounding that you know everything about everything in life and in everyone's experience from what they post on the Internet. It's a gift of yours.

Finally, you always have choices to better your situation. Always. No matter what it is. And if you have given up and decided that there is no way to fix your situation, you are choosing to accept whatever it is you dislike about the world. personally, I can never be satisfied. There is always something better and I'm willing to figure out how to get there.

I'm done with this thread. There's no point in trying to discuss this with you anymore.

[Plasticplayhouse]

[QUOTE=BubblyShell22;1443366]Wow. Really? It's also the whole "You don't vote so you can't complain" BS again? QUOTE]

i think the point she is trying to make is that "voting" is one of the BEST way for an individual to complain. i put voting in quotations because in this case the word was used for its shared intent as making a purchase. that is why boycotting has been a very effective "complaint" mechanism for centuries.

Originally Posted by Katie

Oh my god


Finally, you always have choices to better your situation. Always. No matter what it is. And if you have given up and decided that there is no way to fix your situation, you are choosing to accept whatever it is you dislike about the world. personally, I can never be satisfied. There is always something better and I'm willing to figure out how to get there.

This is a great statement and it is completely true! I grew up in an area that we'll just say wasn’t the best. While there were not as many positive options for us, there WERE options and the wiser people would choose the best option they had available. once you chose an option, at some point another set of options will present themselves, so you choose the best from them. if you keep doing this, eventually better options will be available. it may take a while, but at some point you will have climbed the ladder in a positive direction and if you are persistent, you will eventually get to where you want to go.

most of my friends are either dead or in prison due to the decisions they made and the options they chose. i am happy to say that i am not. life's path is about the choices we make.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Katie

Oh my god

Let's recap what I said here: yes the way you let businesses know what you want is with your wallet. I said that. Even if you buy every single thing that comes out, you are in the minority of consumers now. It would take millions of people suddenly deciding to buy DVDs to change the direction that entertainment is taking.

I analyze businesses but I do also work for one and have worked for them. I started my working life in a retail pet store. Know what the difference in me and you Is, Duckie? I wasn't satisfied to sit back in a low paying retail job forever. It was a great seven year experience, but I was only working there so I could pay my way through college an have a better life than I was born to. So do not act all high and mighty because you think working at a Taco Bell gives you some great insight into business. It does not. You aren't even a decision maker in the store you work in. At least I was a manager eventually in that pet store.

All I have been saying all along in every post until now was that businesses are going to do what the market dictates that they do or they will go out of business. That's it. But you guys lack serious reading comprehension and took what I said as some sort of personal insult to you individually and took it upon yourselves to attack me. It was not a personal attack ever. Businesses adapt or die. Never was talking about people. But since you three have taken it there, I can dish it back.

And yes Leo it is absolutely astounding that you know everything about everything in life and in everyone's experience from what they post on the Internet. It's a gift of yours.

Finally, you always have choices to better your situation. Always. No matter what it is. And if you have given up and decided that there is no way to fix your situation, you are choosing to accept whatever it is you dislike about the world. personally, I can never be satisfied. There is always something better and I'm willing to figure out how to get there.

I'm done with this thread. There's no point in trying to discuss this with you anymore.

You have a point about the businesses doing what the market wants them to do, but our point is that for some of us, we can't do what the markets want and we don't have that option to do that even if we could. Some of us have limits such as where we live. Where I live, we just can't get a decent Internet signal for Wi-Fi, so there's really nothing we can do about that. That's why we have Verizon broadband, and while it's good to have that instead of dial-up, the problem is that we have limited data usage we can use and if we go over that, we get charged by the minute. That's why I don't watch videos anymore because I want to be careful with things like that so to have something like Netflix or even Hulu wouldn't be a good idea because it would eat up Internet minutes. And, sure, the businesses are going to do what they want, but it's not fair to people who are limited based on their situations that they have no control over, and if people don't care about that, that's wrong.

And stop taking shots at Duckie, too. She can't help her situation. She's married and has a husband with serious medical issues so she has no choice but to work at a fast food restaurant. Something better may come along, but until that happens, she has to do what she has to do. Just because you had the opportunity to go to a better place doesn't mean the rest of us can do that at the moment. It all depends on where you live and if you can make your situation better. You were able to, and you were fortunate enough to go to a college that helped you with your career after you graduated. That's awesome, but not everyone has that opportunity or had that opportunity. I certainly didn't when I went to school. I graduated when the economy pretty much went down the toilet and while I looked for jobs nonstop, there weren't any that suited my needs, and the ones I DID apply for straight up rejected me. And I have limits on what I can do based on the disabilities I have, so there's just nothing I can do right now. Work at home is the best option for me, but even that has limits because of my Internet situation and how many hours I can work based on that situation. So I'm pretty much screwed anyway, and I'm also the type who doesn't take rejection well at all, so that's another issue I have about jobs, too.

And with all the damn family drama I'm dealing with, it's just best I keep on doing what I'm doing and be there for my mom because nobody else is going to be. Screw it.

And if you're done with the thread, fine. But you did personally attack us, so we fought back. Not our fault you can't take what we dish out.

[ZariusTwo]

I was reading the Zombie Simpsons blog, on top of the DVD cancelations, FOX seem to be leaving it awfully late in renewing the contract for season 27. Usually they know by October if they're coming back or not.

I know, I know, "Simpsonz axedz" rumors happen every year, but some of the animators on the team are getting jumpy enough to vent on twitter about it

[BubblyShell22]

Hmm, that does seem weird. Maybe they're unsure about whether they want to continue or not.

[ZariusTwo]

Spookily, if the show were to be axed now, it would be ending on the same number of years that the classic run of Doctor Who ended on

[CyberCubed]

Keep in mind if the show isn't renewed, it'll still have a short Season 27 since the show has "holdover" episodes from the previous production season.

I just hope it if does end the writers know ahead of time to write a fitting final episode, and not just end the show on any random episode.

[Leo656]

It's the Simpsons, they'll definitely provide at least some type of closure with the final episode. They'll almost definitely do another movie in a couple years to have a "For Real, Final, Once And For All, We Mean It This Time" ending, but the last episode will still be a solid "ending" by itself, I'd pretty much bank on that.

[Prowler]

Oh so this has turned into a physical vs. digital argument. I was wondering why a thread with a simple title as "Simpsons DVDs Discontinued" was already 5 pages in. I mean, what sort of on-topic could be discussed for so long?

Anyway, I prefer physical copies to digital ones... but I tend to go more for the latter ones nowadays. Why? Because they're cheaper and fill up less space. And from what I've noticed, most people have made the transition already. I was born in 1990, and most people of my age and younger pretty much download everything these days, except for books. People still find it odd to read books on an e-reader or tablet. I personally don't. Okay, tablet batteries get drained fast, but not e-readers. You can read for a couple of hours on my Kobo Touch and the battery will only go down 5% at most.

Now the problem with digital copies, mostly when it comes to video games, is the crappy DRM thing. The only DRM service I can tolerate is Steam. And speaking of Steam, I don't mind buying games on it at all. Plus they're cheaper than buying them at full retail price for a current en console. I'm all for saving money. Not to mention all the space you save at home. If you have a small apartment, you can't fill it up with all kinds of stuff. And honestly, the only stuff I still prefer having in physical copies of are older video games and books. But I'll only get those in physical format if I have the money for them or they mean something to me(as in great games/books). Money doesn't grow on trees and this romantic idea of physical copies being better does not put food on the table or pay bills.

As for those who said that having a nice looking shelf full of DVDs, video games, etc. would impress people, I dunno, if I collect something it's for myself, not to show it off to others. Sure I might put up a pic of it online or something, but if I have someone coming over I don't really expect them to suddenly start browsing my collectible stuff and inquire me about it and praise it "YO DUDE, YOUR COLLECTION IS AWESOME!". What truly matters is if I like what I see at my place.

Now on to the Simpsons. I don't particularly care about the DVDs being discontinued since I find that the show has jumped the shark around the turn of the century. It's getting really pathetic now and Groening should just let it go... or maybe not since it still reeks in cash and that's all that really matters in the end, but man it's sad seeing how awful and unlikable the characters have become. They're pretty much parodies of themselves by now. I even feel a bit embarrassed when I happen to watch Simpsons episode form the last ten seasons or so. Many lines and jokes feel so forced almost to the point of reminding me of that awkward kid in class who desperately wants to be liked or that old has been who's desperately trying to remain relevant.

That being said, The Simpsons are a classic and no matter how crappy its last 13-14 seasons were as a whole, its first 9-10 seasons are timeless and I can still re-watch them nowadays even if I already know most of the important lines and how most episodes go.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, I know they'll probably end it on a good note and have a final resolution to the series at some point if they don't get renewed for another season.

And, Prowler, even with digital stuff, you're still paying a monthly fee to have that stuff if you get Netflix or something like that. I prefer physical media because you pay for it once and you have it always. I'd rather do that than pay a monthly fee for an episode or a series I can just eventually get on DVD.

[CyberCubed]

Even if Simpsons ends, Simpsons "overall" will never end.

There will be another movie most likely, probably some small stuff like "web episodes" and/or animation created for commercials or stuff like the Simpsons ride at Universal.

Its funny, if Simpsons ended a decade ago they probably would have had various Simpsons reunion specials at this point or movies. But since Simpsons never ended they had no reason to do any of that. So when the show actually DOES end the voice actors are already so old that probably can't wait more than 5-10 years to do something like that.

I do think its obvious there will at least be a second movie after the series ends. They've been talking about wanting to make another movie for awhile but have no time for it as the series is going.

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I definitely hope they churn out another movie after the series ends.