Mikey's ADHD/ADD

[BubblyShell22]

I'm blaming both parties if you would pay attention to my posts. Yes, Mikey was wrong for what he did, but Raph was in the wrong for not listening to him. I just pointed this out to you, and you still continue to try and argue with me. Forget it. I'm done.

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

I'm blaming both parties if you would pay attention to my posts. Yes, Mikey was wrong for what he did, but Raph was in the wrong for not listening to him. I just pointed this out to you, and you still continue to try and argue with me. Forget it. I'm done.

I'm not arguing, lol.
You're just looking for things to justify his actions.
W/e man.

[pennydreadful]

Guys, guys - the episode in question is too crappy to even be worth arguing this much over. C'mon, hug it out.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Guys, guys - the episode in question is too crappy to even be worth arguing this much over.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

Oh you right but to re-establish my geek card. Mikey in that issue was the straight man by pointing that if problem was in the past and that they are in the present then crisis was already averted but the plot hole went over Renet's head.

Huh? Not sure what you're even talking about here. There wasn't any "problem" in that story, it was just a two-page one-off bit with the guys teaching Renet to play baseball while they were stuck in the prehistoric era (I'm guessing this was during those three months before they found the scepter in the fish) and Mikey was busy carving his little Flinstones "love note". That's it. He wasn't playing straight man- he was playing what amounts to the biggest prank in (pre)history!

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

....blaming his brothers now instead of just the writers. It's just bad writing.

Yup. ^This.

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Guys, guys - the episode in question is too crappy to even be worth arguing this much over. C'mon, hug it out.

http://i.imgur.com/QCbHYNi.png?1

I won't hug BubblyShell22 until I introduce her to all my toes.

[Leo656]

Her. She's a girl.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I'm not arguing, lol.
You're just looking for things to justify his actions.
W/e man.

I'm not justifying anything! I already conceded he was wrong for what he did, but Raph was wrong also for not listening to him. Whatever. F*ck this sh*t. I'm not hugging anybody who's going to continue to p*ss me off. I'm leaving because I'm not in the mood to argue with someone who's not going to listen.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Huh? Not sure what you're even talking about here. There wasn't any "problem" in that story, it was just a two-page one-off bit with the guys teaching Renet to play baseball while they were stuck in the prehistoric era (I'm guessing this was during those three months before they found the scepter in the fish) and Mikey was busy carving his little Flinstones "love note". That's it. He wasn't playing straight man- he was playing what amounts to the biggest prank in (pre)history!

There were several issues that took place in that one setting. Yours is a different issue and I think my was Teenage mutant ninja turtles tales of #7. That baseball game happen during the same time period when they were stuck in prehistoric times.

In the issue 7# they fought Savanti again. I think was Renet second appearance in the turtles' timeline.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I thought I start a thread on this as alot of people here don't know the full details about ADHD/ADD and keep blaming the writers on treating Mikey badly and think that ADHD/ADD is just an excuse.

First off the writers are doing a great job, they are doing their homework on ADHD and other things that link with ADHD.

They are trying to get the message out there to the world that ADHD is a metal disorder and that millions of children do suffer with it. People who don't know about the condition, blame the parents and think it's a stupid excuse.

Seriously people, you need to do your homework and read up about ADHD/ADD.

If the show doesn't even bother to take the time to specifically plot the progress of the mental and emotional journeys of their characters (thanks to plot amnesia), would they actually take even more time to consider in accurately depicting ADHD/ADD? Psh....

It seems rather... convenient this was brought up to explain Mikey's behavior, rather than just stating the cold-hard truth that this Mikey is acting dumber than usual (in comparison to Mirage and OT Michelangelo) in order to provide easy and immediate comic relief.

I mostly agree with Leo656's comment here:

Originally Posted by Leo656

I highly, highly doubt the people behind the show have put 1/10 as much thought or research into it as you have. It's a throw-away, catch-all phrase that the writers can lean on in order to make Mikey more of a Spaz, because "that's funny". Not that the condition itself isn't real, BUT, it's seriously over-played, over-diagnosed, and it's become a trendy "buzzword" used to describe any kid who's goofy.

...

I've still seen nothing from Mikey that comes close to anything like the behaviors of my friends' kids of similar age. And as I've said, I'm aware there are degrees of severity. But I maintain, Mikey doesn't have ADHD; he's just stupid. The writers don't want to own up to that, thus, the "miracle diagnosis" used by so many parents, teachers and "doctors" beforehand. It's dumb. Anyone who thinks they're trying to "keep it real" or raise any kind of awareness, or even just make Mikey more sympathetic, is giving this show's writers way too much credit. We've seen how many episodes so far? Frankly, the show's writers aren't that clever, to have even put as much though into it as you'd like to give them. We've seen ample proof of that.

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Mikey did learn from his mistake from Mikey get's Shellache and it was due to his lack of confidence, he hasn't done anything like that since then.

...And here I thought Mikey seeing something so traumatic (seeing Timothy's horrific mutation in "The Pulverizer Returns!" and commenting on it) would have made him to learn not to bother touching mutagen in the first place by the time "Mikey Gets Shellacne" comes in. If witnessing traumatic experiences doesn't make Mikey learn anything significant, what will? ...A lecture from Leo?

[Luckyday]

^ Mikey even had the gull to mess with the retro mutagen and this was way after season 2 when Donnie explained clear as day, "It take ten canisters of mutagen to make this and a long time to get it done."

This wasn't somebody science project that he worked hours on. It's the equivalent of some jackass messing with somebody very expensive medication.

[yellowmario27]

we're just supposed to accept that he does dumb things without thinking
and sometimes/most times it works out in everyone's favor

question- in this series there's an established birth order that was told to us in that online cartoon, so do you think their ages differ in anything other than a few minutes/hours? because mikey seems a lot younger than the others.
I know all 15 year olds don't act the same, but considering they grew up the same way one would assume they would have the similar maturity

i'm probably over analyzing things

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

There were several issues that took place in that one setting. Yours is a different issue and I think my was Teenage mutant ninja turtles tales of #7. That baseball game happen during the same time period when they were stuck in prehistoric times.

In the issue 7# they fought Savanti again. I think was Renet second appearance in the turtles' timeline.

Yeah, I know- that's why I mentioned it took place BEFORE they found the lost scepter when Mikey was gutting the fish they caught. I have no idea what issue # mine even is- it was apparently part of a group of one-offs, all my copy has is the title: "Meanwhile... 1000000 B.C." I didn't know they fought Savanti again (I only have the one story in my Classics vol.) but I DO know it was part of that arc. 'Tis why I mentioned it in the first place. They were explaining to Renet that she would play better than anyone else for at least a million years, LOL! I just thought it was funny that Mikey was playing a prank on some unsuspecting future archeologist by carving what he did. Ya' gotta' admit, THAT's one heck of a prank!

[Amaranthus]

Another notable case of Mikey misbehaving and getting lucky:
Mikey gets Shellacne
Mikey does something incredibly dumb: rubbing mutagen over his skin.
When his brothers don't listen to him when he suggests that Dogpound took Baxter to Baxter's old lab, he complains about not being taken seriously.
While it's his own fault.
And yet again, Mikey seems to be a psychic.
There is no reason for Mikey to suspect Dogpound took Baxter to his lab. If I was a turtle, and I saw Dogpound kidnap Baxter. The first thing that would go through my mind would be: "He's taking him to Shredder's lair."
Yet none of the other Turtles suggested this, but Mikey just happens to know even though he didn't know Dogpound wanted Baxter to make him human again.

[Shiro Kame]

I'm starting to get worried about the show. It's flanderization of things like Donnie's crush towards April and Mikey's ADHD/ADD could result in the show jumping the shark and ending up as painful and awful as modern SpongeBob.

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by Shiro Kame

I'm starting to get worried about the show. It's flanderization of things like Donnie's crush towards April and Mikey's ADHD/ADD could result in the show jumping the shark and ending up as painful and awful as modern SpongeBob.

Mikey doesn't have ADHD. He's just dumb.
I've been in the class with kids who actually had ADHD. They're not incredibly dumb, they're wild and aggressive.

[Shiro Kame]

Originally Posted by Amaranthus

Mikey doesn't have ADHD. He's just dumb.
I've been in the class with kids who actually had ADHD. They're not incredibly dumb, they're wild and aggressive.

That's why I called it "flanderization."

[Papenbrook]

Everyone in this show is flanderized. I don't think I can deal with it.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

Everyone in this show is flanderized. I don't think I can deal with it.

[Leo656]

Stupid Sexy Flanders...