Should the Turtles be redesigned for the sequel?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I just wish they would get rid of those god awful nostrils. There's a reason the Turtles never had nostrils in any other incarnation, they are hideous and ugly to look at.

Its amazing how two holes can make all the difference. Mikey especially looks just like Shrek.

Like YOUR nostrils are any sexier.

Stop with the f***ing nostril-shaming!!!

[Candy Kappa]

No no, they need bigger nostrils.

Nostrils all the way.



huge, vibrating nostrils!

[chrisdude]

They will DEFINITELY change the designs. They need to differentiate themselves so that kids will buy new toys. Transformers made this mistake, and watched their sales drop for two films. Why would you buy a new Bumblebee when he looks the same? Hasbro publicly acknowledged that mistake and redesigned all their Transformers for the fourth film. So they learned from that mistake, and won't make it again.

But I don't expect anything more than clothes to change. Heck, they may only be wearing clothes in the first movie as a built-in way to change the action figures each film.

[Walkabout]

I always see Cubed getting thrashed for bringing up the nostrils thing but I feel exactly the same way about them as he does.

Leo is the best of the bunch, but that's damning with faint praise and I can't stand the sight of these...these...turtles.

[Foombamaroom]

I don't see them changing the designs too drastically. The nostrils are fine on everyone except Mikey, in my opinion. But I do think they're going to make the Turtles less muscular. I don't mind them being six feet tall, as long as they're not *HUGE*. Like, Donnie, in my opinion, had the best body out of all of the Turtles.

I feel like the main problem is that they're all so damn top-heavy. Raph's bicepts are fine for his character, but they do need to slim him down a little bit more. Also, I feel like Leo should match Donnie's body, too. Mikey's body I'm fine with, since he's shorter.

[Foombamaroom]

Also, everyone's all like, "Should the Turtles be redesigned?"

I can deal with the Turtles. The one who needs a major makeover is Shredder. I swear to God, if I see those swiss army knives pop out of his hands again, I'm going to be like CyberCubed with the nostrils.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I just wish they would get rid of those god awful nostrils. There's a reason the Turtles never had nostrils in any other incarnation, they are hideous and ugly to look at.

Its amazing how two holes can make all the difference. Mikey especially looks just like Shrek.

But turtles do have nostrils.

[Wolfie65]

Americans in general - American movie audiences in particular - have trouble accepting someone who isn't at least 6'2, 220 (GONG!) as an action hero - or an athlete, for that matter.
The fact that Ninjas tend to be relatively small, wiry guys with mad flexibility, gymnastics, martial arts and weapon skills who are excellent at blending in and going unnoticed is pretty lost on them, they want HULK SMASH!!! with mega-muscles only achievable by emptying 1970's East Germany's arsenal of steroids.
The additional fact that neither red-eared sliders (original Turtle lore) nor box turtles (2014 moovee lore) turtles get very big is also irrelevant, they want The Turtle That Who Ate Cleveland. As a teenager.
I'm almost afraid to ask how über-hyper-extra-mega-ginormously-quintuple-super L A R G E Bebop and Rocksteady will be......
Nostrils?
Who cares? They're too far skyward to see anyway......

[jenna]

I've said it a thousand times, and I'm not shy about saying it again:

Massive, hulking, bullet-proof turtles with strength and power does not serve the plot. It does not serve the concept. These turtles weren't ninjas. They weren't stealthy. They weren't fast. We barely even saw much in the way of martial arts skills.

Small turtles who use swift, stealthy skill to avoid bullets is MUCH more interesting.

Originally Posted by Wolfie65

The fact that Ninjas tend to be relatively small, wiry guys with mad flexibility, gymnastics, martial arts and weapon skills who are excellent at blending in and going unnoticed is pretty lost on them, they want HULK SMASH!!!

Yup. Basically this.

So yes, in my mind, they should be redesigned. Whether or not they will be is another thing. From the on-set pics that are now coming out, the mo-cap suits include those little antennae used to map eye-line, so it looks like the size has not been altered. And if the height remains, pretty certain the hideous frames will remain too.

The nostrils don't bother me at all. Turtles have nostrils. Fact. It adds realism. I'd like to see their faces a tad less human though.

As for the ugliness. Personally, I prefer them when they aren't quite so hard on the eyes.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Also, I feel like Leo should match Donnie's body, too.

Nooo... Leo could use a little bit of a steroid intervention himself (though not as much as Raph), but keep a reasonable amount of the muscle tone, please. Donnie is so much the opposite out of obvious geek stereotype, you'd think he almost never trains at all and yet he's just as skilled.

Leo looked great in some of that late concept art. Athletic, a bit heroic, right amount of muscle. There's some obvious resemblance to the actual film model, but clearly he, as well as his brothers, got abused somewhere along the way between concept and screen ready.

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

The one who needs a major makeover is Shredder. I swear to God, if I see those swiss army knives pop out of his hands again, I'm going to be like CyberCubed with the nostrils.

Yeah... They kind of hurt themselves by going with a Super[duper] Shredder from the get go. Where can they really even go from there that wouldn't be ridiculous.

[Tora]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

hideous nostrils. .

You're the first person I think of when I see the "Nostrils" on these turtles!

But yeah a trimmed down design with less going on would be nice for sure. I just hope they don't recycle the same models as it would seem the turtles never ever change out of their clothes

[graphic_content]

I'm willing to be the TURTLES are gonna be somewhat smaller this time around...

...when filming the first movie...notice how HIGH above his head are the 'eye markers' for RAPHAEL:



THIS time around...they are directly on top of his head.



OF COURSE that isnt definitive proof, but still.

[IndigoErth]

Hmm, very interesting. It at least adjusts Fox's eye line a little, so maybe?

Mocap outfits look new. Doubt it means anything (and maybe they simply made adjustments that don't affect it but make it easier to do the work?), but the shell also doesn't look quite as bulky.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Hmm, very interesting. It at least adjusts Fox's eye line a little, so maybe?

Mocap outfits look new. Doubt it means anything (and maybe they simply made adjustments that don't affect it but make it easier to do the work?), but the shell also doesn't look quite as bulky.

It's probably in an effort to let the actors move better/easier.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Everyone repeat after me: "NO MORE SIX-FOOT BULLET-PROOF HULKS WITH SHELLS!" Four feet tall, maybe five at the most.

"NO MORE SIX-FOOT BULLET-PROOF HULKS WITH SHELLS!" Four feet tall, maybe five at the most.

"NO MORE SIX-FOOT BULLET-PROOF HULKS WITH SHELLS!" Four feet tall, maybe five at the most.

"NO MORE SIX-FOOT BULLET-PROOF HULKS WITH SHELLS!" Four feet tall, maybe five at the most.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

"NO MORE SIX-FOOT BULLET-PROOF HULKS WITH SHELLS!" Four feet tall, maybe five at the most.

"NO MORE SIX-FOOT BULLET-PROOF HULKS WITH SHELLS!" Four feet tall, maybe five at the most.

"NO MORE SIX-FOOT BULLET-PROOF HULKS WITH SHELLS!" Four feet tall, maybe five at the most.

Not gonna happen, For continuity sake, they will be the same size.

Last thing we want, Are people going. "WTF? I thought they were taller? Why are they short?"

Why are they short? Cause the fans complained.

[IndigoErth]

Adjusting the scale of the models within a scene is prob the easier change to make, but yeah, prob not going to happen or minimal at best.

With the eye targets still on their helmets then it can be ruled out any chance that the Turtles will be made a traditional height.

[Krutch]

Yeah, I have a feeling they'll be knocked down a peg or so but not as much as we'd like. Maybe once they tried to write the obligatory Raph vs Casey fight scene they were like "Oh...maybe 8 foot tall bulletproof monsters weren't the best call."

[TigerClaw]

The only thing I see happening is, They may or may not have much clothing and accessories on them.

[NinjaPug]

Haha. The people who enjoyed the first PD movie don't care about a thing like continuity.