How would kids today feel about the 1987 cartoon?

[pferreira]

I don't think kids would like the show as they've been brought up on hyperactive boring anime!

[Powder]

Originally Posted by pferreira

I don't think kids would like the show as they've been brought up on hyperactive boring anime!

Do you have kids? 'Cause this sounds like something someone who has no idea what kids are into would say.

[Lisardo]

It's not exactly the OT (tho the same time frame), but I showed my boyfriend's niece (who was 10 at the time) the TMNT Xmas Special. I got it as an Xmas gift like 2 years ago. Anyway, his niece thought it was pretty funny, and seemed to like it. She may enjoy the OT if I ever showed it to her.

[Duke Nukem]

Originally Posted by Prowler

If many kids born in the 80s and the 90s liked watching Wacky Races, Tom & Jerry, etc. on TV; why wouldn't some enjoy the FW toon?



But that reference wouldn't fly over their head, considering Abe Lincoln is a big name in American history.

I'm sure most kids would get the Abe Lincoln jokes, but in today's frenzied PC climate, it would be considered too racist to be allowed in a kids' show. I enjoyed the old 60's Looney Tunes cartoons as a kid in the 80's, which is another thing that wouldn't fly today for kids, with the amount of gun violence and bomb making. Kids' shows today do contain a lot of sexual innuendo that wouldn't have been allowed in the 80s, and blasphemous speech that would have been extremely controversial a few decades ago (remember a lot of the letters that got published in TMNTA in the 90s?), and downright criminal before that. You can look back further than that at the Hayes code as well. Decades from now, I'm sure it will be something else entirely that's considered detrimental, that kids will be in "need" of fanatics to protect them from that.

[Jester]

We had some guys come in and replace the kitchen and bathroom ceramic tile floors with premium vinyl tile, and as a result I had to keep Trey occupied in my "man cave" while they were working. He requested the FW TMNT to watch so I popped in the Season 1 DVD. He made it through about 2 episodes before he got super antsy, but he's 2 almost 3, so I can't really blame him.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by Powder

Do you have kids? 'Cause this sounds like something someone who has no idea what kids are into would say.

No I don't have kids but I have to say I'm glad I was born in the 80s judging by the stuff that's on today for them.

[Wolfie65]

Anime makes me feel sorry for Japanese teens.

[senpai]

Why do you say that? Anime is very common for all ages in Japan. A Japanese teen might not understand what you mean either.

[Leo656]

He's probably jumping straight to the "all anime is porn" conclusion a lot of folks try to do. At least I assume.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Wolfie65

Anime makes me feel sorry for Japanese teens.

Anime > 75% of modern western animation.

We have bronies, yet they're who you're pitying?

[Leo656]

C'mon, that's a good show too.

I can't speak for its fans; I've honestly never met anyone in real life who admitted watching it. I like it, though, it's funny.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Powder

Anime > 75% of modern western animation.

We have bronies, yet they're who you're pitying?

Alright let me to get on my soapbox for a minute.

Most bronies are just guys who are into cartoons, like girls that are into TMNT, and enjoy it because it was a Lauren Faust's creation or to precise a complete reimagining and have create a lot of cool stuff in celebration of their fandom like flash video games, song ballads and even animated shorts.

Both current properties are popular because of quality or it has something more to offer other then being just another generic cartoon gear towards kids so that they can shut up for 20 minutes.

Kind of makes me a little jealous sometimes in wanting to see that level of fun with TMNT. Where's my Dr. Wolf?

[Wolfie65]

The Anime I've seen (Naruto, Pokémon, Girl who leapt through space, Chevalier d'Eon, Peach Girl, Tokyo Tribes, etc.) shows me a culture that is even shallower and more sickly weird than ours. And to all the people complaining about how we show our kids role models they could never possibly hope to emulate, that's nothing compared to what the Japanese do. For starters, hardly anyone in Japanese anime even looks Japanese - with the notable exception of cranky old guys.......
Pardon me, I'm off to get my hair pinked and my eyes enlarged so that they resemble saucers. Then, I'll become a Ninja by screaming at everyone and slurping my noodles faster.

Originally Posted by Duke Nukem

Some of the jokes would definitely be dated, others would be considered way over the line today (of course, a lot of the jokes today would never be allowed in a kids' show back then either). For example, I remember at the end of one episode (if anyone know which one this is, then remind me), where Shredder and Krang's plan to enslave everyone inevitably failed, and Bebop and Rocksteady said something like "At least we don't gotta be slaves anymore!", to which Krang responded "Really? Think again!". Rocksteady looked at the camera and said "Aww...where's that Abe Lincoln guy when you need him?". Something like that would never fly today.

Also, the video that plastroncafe posted is scripted, in case anyone never heard of that series before. I don't think too many actual kids today would like it much at all unless they're already TMNT fans, and even a lot of them probably wouldn't.

yeah,the 87 series looks childish but there are a lot of "mature" or "not very obviously to notice" jokes

I am from a "shanghai"ed(a word from 2k3) place, as a asian I have to say Japanese animes are not weird at all and they are great especially these in 80s,90s.There are still a bunch of great works.It's just more and more "sexy" animes come up but good things still there

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Wolfie65

The Anime I've seen (Naruto, Pokémon, Girl who leapt through space, Chevalier d'Eon, Peach Girl, Tokyo Tribes, etc.) shows me a culture that is even shallower and more sickly weird than ours. And to all the people complaining about how we show our kids role models they could never possibly hope to emulate, that's nothing compared to what the Japanese do. For starters, hardly anyone in Japanese anime even looks Japanese - with the notable exception of cranky old guys.......
Pardon me, I'm off to get my hair pinked and my eyes enlarged so that they resemble saucers. Then, I'll become a Ninja by screaming at everyone and slurping my noodles faster.

This is a grossly offensive stereotype of Japan.

[CyberCubed]

Anime nowadays is pretty bad though, the best anime days were in the 80's and 90's, as well as a bit in the early 2000's.

Nowadays it is mostly harem moe fanservice crap. Every show is about 5 girls feeling each other up or doing cute things. It seems like every anime now has to have at least one scene of a girl groping each others boobs.

[Leo656]

I'm not seeing the "problem"...

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Wolfie65

The Anime I've seen (Naruto, Pokémon, Girl who leapt through space, Chevalier d'Eon, Peach Girl, Tokyo Tribes, etc.) shows me a culture that is even shallower and more sickly weird than ours. And to all the people complaining about how we show our kids role models they could never possibly hope to emulate, that's nothing compared to what the Japanese do. For starters, hardly anyone in Japanese anime even looks Japanese - with the notable exception of cranky old guys.......
Pardon me, I'm off to get my hair pinked and my eyes enlarged so that they resemble saucers. Then, I'll become a Ninja by screaming at everyone and slurping my noodles faster.

What exactly is your argument here? Western animation has plenty of shallow, goofy things - just look at Spongebob. You may as well watch an Adam Sandler movie and collectively declare that cinema as a whole is absurd. Anime is an art form with many different sub-genres. Some are silly, some are serious, some are horror, some are sci fi - you're making broad generalizations based on something you know nothing about.

As far as saying that anime characters don't look Japanese - you've just displayed a base level of ignorance of Japanese culture. Japanese people see anime characters as being Japanese - they don't mark their characters as "Other" by including slanted eyes or whatever it is you think an Asian character should be drawn like, because to them, a character being of Japanese race is the norm. White people interpret all anime or cartoon characters as being white, because that's their default standard for "human being" unless specifically indicated otherwise. The Simpsons are drawn as yellow people with improbable hair but ask anyone on the street and they'll say that they consider them to be white characters. People in anime don't look specifically caucasian, for that matter - people aren't born with giant eyes and pink hair. The art style isn't about being true to life - not to mention the fact that there are many different art styles within anime anyway.

At best, you come off as painfully uneducated; at worst, you come off as racist. Geeze Louise, it's too early in the morning for my frontal lobe to be blown like this - I'm going to be picking gray matter off the ceiling for hours.

[Leo656]

Almost 8pm over here. So, you could use the "I'm at the end of a long day and I'm just too tired" argument if you wanted.