Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep18: "The Deadly Venom"

**Machias Banshee** · 05-16-2015, 11:05 PM

So, all that character development in Karai learning Splinter was her father and realizing Shredder was an evil SOB. Is that all kaput now?

Baxter conveniently creates a mind control serum (which we briefly saw tested on Raph - and failed), and they use it on Karai to get her under their control again. Leo broke the control on Raph by... pissing him off (what?). What will it take to get Karai out of the trance? Is he gonna have to kiss her?

From what the spoiler pics have seen of Karai's kiss... Leo may not want to take that option. But it'll create some controversy to discuss.

*GoldMutant* · 05-17-2015, 06:04 AM

I really hope this leads to a good episode for this four episode period. I wasn't a fan of the first two and enjoyed Meet Mondo Gecko. I just hope this episode leads to strong developments of a personal storyline.

I just don't like Karai has been utilized as a plot device for the feuds between Shredder VS. Splinter and against Leonardo more than being an actual character. It's just becoming boring that nothing has been done to her besides getting mutated. It has promise that has failed potential for the time being. Hoping this is the episode that breaks that sense to close out the new episode marathon for the time being.

Aaronardo · 05-17-2015, 08:42 AM

This four-episode deal has been a major groan for me. Probably the biggest quality hiccup this show has had so far imo. I liked the Muckman episode, but Clash of the Mutanimals was awful and Meet Mondo Gecko was a whole episode dedicated to selling toys. And we all know how good those are.
Long story short: if this episode (that promises to get back to the storyline, but then again, Clash sort of did as well) isn't any good, I'll be done with this series.

saintsaucey · 05-17-2015, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo

This four-episode deal has been a major groan for me. Probably the biggest quality hiccup this show has had so far imo. I liked the Muckman episode, but Clash of the Mutanimals was awful and Meet Mondo Gecko was a whole episode dedicated to selling toys. And we all know how good those are.
Long story short: if this episode (that promises to get back to the storyline, but then again, Clash sort of did as well) isn't any good, I'll be done with this series.

How was meet mondo gecoo dedicated to selling toys. Other than one new figure. But hell isn't that potentially every episode.

Aaronardo · 05-17-2015, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsaucey

How was meet mondo gecoo dedicated to selling toys. Other than one new figure. But hell isn't that potentially every episode.

Basically all of Shredder's henchmen were there... and for what reason? What's the point of them being there, not to mention they're all completely out of character. Just that whole idea's a little screwy to me. Not to mention that the episode on its own was just crap (which has nothing to do with selling toys, just a reason I don't like the episode as a whole).

*GoldMutant* · 05-17-2015, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo

Basically all of Shredder's henchmen were there... and for what reason? What's the point of them being there, not to mention they're all completely out of character. Just that whole idea's a little screwy to me. Not to mention that the episode on its own was just crap (which has nothing to do with selling toys, just a reason I don't like the episode as a whole).

It doesn't make sense on the inclusions of the mutants at all besides showing "Hey everyone, miss us? We're back and still alive." The Foot I understand as they want to see if Xever can finally prove himself, but a big brawl should have occurred. Felt like a screwy end to the racing portion.

Otherwise, I'm kinda the inverse of the Noxious Avenger and this episode. I sort of liked the latter episode while not entirely a big fan of the former.

Also, 50 minutes til showtime.

*Ninturtle* · 05-17-2015, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo

Basically all of Shredder's henchmen were there... and for what reason? What's the point of them being there, not to mention they're all completely out of character. Just that whole idea's a little screwy to me. Not to mention that the episode on its own was just crap (which has nothing to do with selling toys, just a reason I don't like the episode as a whole).

Why do you think it's crap, I thought the episode was alot of fun and didn't mind seeing the villians on their down time. But that's just me to each his own.

*Luckyday* · 05-17-2015, 09:29 AM

None of the four episode hasn't been rage inducing for me.

Casey vs the Underworld was okay. Hun as a character doesn't have a lot of things going on for him. He's pretty much "Here this new guy and look how cool and awesome he is! He awesome, right? Right?". As a fighter, he will make some fights interesting but outside of that, he feels like a generic TigerClaw 2.0. Them referencing and remembering that a invasion had happened was good because it was my ultimatum for me to stick by this show. This show can't just forget that an invasion had happened but it didn't so no major complaints.

Muckman episode was such a nice surprise. Hardly any legit problems and almost felt like a season 1 episode.

Clash of the Mutanimals while not being the beginning of the Dark Raph character arc that I really wanted, it wasn't a bad episode.

Mondo Gecko started lackluster and predictable but that death race turn it around it for me. My only complaint is that I wish the entire episode was death race.

Normally last episode of the set is usually the one that drops the ball. I am hyped but my real concern is Karai. I really really hope that this mind control won't last beyond a episode and becomes the norm for a long while.
The turtles already knows how fight the mind control serum but with it being perfected they probably have find a new way to beat it.

I read somewhere that they called her "Kiba" to help break the control so I'm hoping that might mean the writers are not going keep this mind control aspect for the rest of series as something to keep them fighting over.

*NinjaPug* · 05-17-2015, 09:32 AM

How about taking the discussions about past episodes to those threads?

cartooncrazy4 · 05-17-2015, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle

Why do you think it's crap, I thought the episode was alot of fun and didn't mind seeing the villians on their down time. But that's just me to each his own.

Same here I've enjoyed all the episodes so far but that's just me

Aaronardo · 05-17-2015, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle

Why do you think it's crap, I thought the episode was alot of fun and didn't mind seeing the villians on their down time. But that's just me to each his own.

Well, I mean, don't you think it's a little silly imagining Shredder's henchmen spending some skateboarding race in their downtime? That seems off to me. I mean, if Shredder had come barging in and screamed "WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE?!" then that'd be something else, but as it is, it's just... off.

*Drose18* · 05-17-2015, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo

Well, I mean, don't you think it's a little silly imagining Shredder's henchmen spending some skateboarding race in their downtime? That seems off to me. I mean, if Shredder had come barging in and screamed "WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE?!" then that'd be something else, but as it is, it's just... off.

I 100% agree with everything youve said this show has gone to **** lets hope this new episode is good.

*Vicky82* · 05-17-2015, 09:46 AM

Live stream is down again

so I won't able to watch the new episode until it's up on Anime flavor later so I have to avoid spoilers for about 2 hours. Luckily I got Man Utd vs Arsenal to keep me occupied but I just hope Arsenal will win

*GoldMutant* · 05-17-2015, 10:00 AM

Episode starts NOW!!!

kelligrafie · 05-17-2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

Live stream is down again

so I won't able to watch the new episode until it's up on Anime flavor later so I have to avoid spoilers for about 2 hours. Luckily I got Man Utd vs Arsenal to keep me occupied but I just hope Arsenal will win

Keep an eye on tumblr, sometimes an alternative stream comes up way before it appears on Anime Flavor.

I hate football so I'll be watching the Dream Beavers episode to keep myself entertained.

~~TurFlytle~~ · 05-17-2015, 10:06 AM

Wait, how?

~~TurFlytle~~ · 05-17-2015, 10:12 AM

I felt like it would've been a suprise if it wasn't for the leak.

*GoldMutant* · 05-17-2015, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TurFlytle

Wait, how?

The episode already beginning?

~~TurFlytle~~ · 05-17-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

The episode already beginning?

yes. it is.

*GoldMutant* · 05-17-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TurFlytle

yes. it is.

Guess cause time was flying, I guess.

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05-16-2015, 11:05 PM	#1
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep18: "The Deadly Venom" So, all that character development in Karai learning Splinter was her father and realizing Shredder was an evil SOB. Is that all kaput now? Baxter conveniently creates a mind control serum (which we briefly saw tested on Raph - and failed), and they use it on Karai to get her under their control again. Leo broke the control on Raph by... pissing him off (what?). What will it take to get Karai out of the trance? Is he gonna have to kiss her? From what the spoiler pics have seen of Karai's kiss... Leo may not want to take that option. But it'll create some controversy to discuss.

05-17-2015, 08:42 AM	#3
Aaronardo Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 1,043	This four-episode deal has been a major groan for me. Probably the biggest quality hiccup this show has had so far imo. I liked the Muckman episode, but Clash of the Mutanimals was awful and Meet Mondo Gecko was a whole episode dedicated to selling toys. And we all know how good those are. Long story short: if this episode (that promises to get back to the storyline, but then again, Clash sort of did as well) isn't any good, I'll be done with this series. __________________ "Shredder, you gotta listen to reason!" - Leonardo "Oh Turtles! Oh Turtles! Chew your gum properly." "If I miss this week's Kirby, heads are gonna roll." - Raphael "The Biosites have almost finished healing my flesh." - Shredder "Because we're takin' the heart and you're goin' to jail!" - Donatello

05-17-2015, 09:46 AM	#13
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,805	Live stream is down again so I won't able to watch the new episode until it's up on Anime flavor later so I have to avoid spoilers for about 2 hours. Luckily I got Man Utd vs Arsenal to keep me occupied but I just hope Arsenal will win __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

05-17-2015, 06:04 AM	#2
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	I really hope this leads to a good episode for this four episode period. I wasn't a fan of the first two and enjoyed Meet Mondo Gecko. I just hope this episode leads to strong developments of a personal storyline. I just don't like Karai has been utilized as a plot device for the feuds between Shredder VS. Splinter and against Leonardo more than being an actual character. It's just becoming boring that nothing has been done to her besides getting mutated. It has promise that has failed potential for the time being. Hoping this is the episode that breaks that sense to close out the new episode marathon for the time being.

05-17-2015, 09:32 AM	#9
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	How about taking the discussions about past episodes to those threads?

05-17-2015, 10:00 AM	#14
GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	Episode starts NOW!!!

05-17-2015, 10:06 AM	#16
~~TurFlytle~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 534	Wait, how?

05-17-2015, 10:12 AM	#17
~~TurFlytle~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 534	I felt like it would've been a suprise if it wasn't for the leak.