Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep18: "The Deadly Venom" - Page 3

*ObiWanFan4life* · 05-17-2015, 10:04 AM

So, Leo is now one bullet-dodging scene away from becoming Neo

. But overall, a good episode.

*Foombamaroom* · 05-17-2015, 10:05 AM

I wasn't too happy with where this episode was placed. The Karai arc has been spread out all through season 3, and it just feels weird to have it right now and know that the next episode will have nothing to do with her. It felt like it was just to say, "Hey, Karai's still a character."

*Luckyday* · 05-17-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I wasn't too happy with where this episode was placed. The Karai arc has been spread out all through season 3, and it just feels weird to have it right now and know that the next episode will have nothing to do with her. It felt like it was just to say, "Hey, Karai's still a character."

^More like a hollow version of said character.
This entire episode felt like the writers were trying to go back to the good old days when Karai was scheming to destroy the turtles once and for all in season 1 and early season 2.

sigh. Good thing I bought some Jack Daniel's.

*IndigoErth* · 05-17-2015, 10:54 AM

TMNT... officially a drinking game.

(Youngsters, uh.. just break out a juice box.)

*TigerClaw* · 05-17-2015, 10:56 AM

That's odd, My Tivo did not record this episode, Will have to watch it elsewhere.

*Vicky82* · 05-17-2015, 11:09 AM

OH MY GOD!!!!!WOW!!!!! I loved this episode, it was awesome, emotional, scary and so Intense, I was at the edge of my seat and shouting out thoughout the episode and I got so much feels from it. I did not expect all the turtles and April to be poisoned by Karai. Leo was such a badass in this episode.

Baxter trying again with the mind control worms, he must of perfected the mind serum.
OMG!!!! the worm went into her ear!!!!!

Loved the score during Leo and Splinter sparing.
Splinter still not 100% from being attacked by Slash.
I laughed so much at Mikey wearing that Mask

Wow!!! Splinter has healing powers and Leo want's to learn how to use it.
April having a bad dream and wakes up with snakes in her bed, WTF!!!!!
OMG!!! she's been bitten.
I liked the fight between Casey and Karai, pretty cool. That kiss, sadly got leaked early.
OMG!!! Kirby carrying April to the lair asking the turtles for help, feels!!!!
OMG!!! feels!!!!, April connected to machines and she's getting worse and Donnie can't find a anti venom.
Kirby saying he should of taken to the hospital, so you need to explain to the doctor that April was bitten by a girl who was mutated into a snake then, idiot.
Raph and Mikey find Casey and Mikey has to try suck the venom out, near Casey's crotch!!!!! WTF!!!!
OMG!!!! Snakes in the turtle van!!!! OMG!!! Mikey get's bit, NNNOOO!!!!
Raph get's bit too and the van crashes.
Karai captures them and lures Leo and Donnie there too.
So the venom can be absorbed into the skin too, pretty clever.
WTF!!! Donnie has a pinapple for a head, Spongebob reference!!!!
Splinter using the healing power to help April, to make her stable, OMG!!! that was an intense moment, I thought she was going to flat line then.
Leo using the healing power to help him get bit stronger but he get's bitten twice!!!!
I like that Splinter and Leo are both doing the healing at the same time, pretty cool.
April is cured.
Leo is becoming more badass everytime, he's just awesome in this episode.
Leo vs Karai was great.
Splinter and Leo healing the other 3 turtles and Casey, feels!!!
Poor Leo wanted to help Karai become free from the mind control.
Bit of the sad ending but proves the mind control story isn't over yet.

Also WTF is this!!!!!

*Papenbrook* · 05-17-2015, 11:33 AM

This episode was complete and utter booty. I don't think I can watch the show anymore.

Mukouno · 05-17-2015, 11:35 AM

Okay, I'm watching right now and I'm only 2 minutes in... But how did Stockman turn Karai human?!

And right after that worm goes in she's suddenly a mutant all over again? What the...

kelligrafie · 05-17-2015, 11:42 AM

This episode was a tad meh for me and I was really looking forward to having Karai back with us. Again I think the action/fight scenes just about saved it.

Is it just me or did the episode seem to be over quicker than usual?

And I'm forever done with Kirby. He's such an irritating ninny.

Props to the writer for the continuity though. Someone obviously did his research.

*Foombamaroom* · 05-17-2015, 11:56 AM

The fact that the Turtles are going to find Renet next episode rather than go after Karai bothers me, considering this now seems like a more immediate threat. Also, wouldn't Karai know the lair of the Turtles?

I dunno. Ciro said Karai's arc would be more towards the second half of the season, but then again, he said Mutagen Man would have a big part in season 2. The breaks are killing the show. However, the June arc from season 2 (Wrath of Tiger Claw, Kuro Kabuto, Plan 10, Vengeance is Mine) was the best arc out of season 2, so let's hope they have some more good episodes.

In all honesty, though, I feel like they need to take a break from adding characters. I hope to god Renet's the last new character of this season.

*Bauer536* · 05-17-2015, 12:04 PM

I haven't watched the episode yet, but I'm surprised the show is going in this direction. I feel like most of the TV shows I've watched suffer from some kind of fatigue.

I hope Ciro will come back, because I'm curious as to why he said things like Mutagen Man having a big role in Season 2. Something in me tells me that he lied to get us watching, or Nickelodeon vetoed the idea just before it went out.

Some of this I blame on Nick, because they really don't seem to care about structure. I love this show, but it's starting to get disorganized. These excuses about showing episodes that aren't serialized so not to confuse kids is ridiculous. The show doesn't need to be heavily serialized, but it still needs to be in perfect order so things fall into place. Going in one episode to have Karai becoming a threat, then to the time travel one, is kind of jarring. The episodes may not be in the correct order. Certain times, the writers get things together. Continuity is hard for them, so moments when they get something right, I'm proud. When they don't, I'm annoyed.

To Mukouno: Karai is human because she can shape-shift into one, and transform back to the serpent.

Mukouno · 05-17-2015, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536

To Mukouno: Karai is human because she can shape-shift into one, and transform back to the serpent.

I know, but that's not what I meant. Right at the beginning, Baxter outright says that he turned her human again. And when we see Karai she's back to her senses, has her normal human eyes and normal teeth, no fangs, indicating that she really is completely human... But when she shape-shifted in previous episodes she had those green snake eyes and fangs. Just like in the rest of the episode.
But when this worm goes in she's suddenly back to her mutant-self...

So... yeah, I still don't get it.

*Coola Yagami* · 05-17-2015, 12:16 PM

So um.... were they trying to make another love triangle/rectangle/hexago/whatever with Casey and Karai? Even before she attacked him, he was all over her. Then of all the ways to poison him, she distinctively chose to kiss him? Sure, he was gonna die anyways but um...?

I don't mind the kiss all that much, it was a method of attack in this case, but what bugged me was how heavily Casey was hitting on her. What would have happened if she wasn't evil and just wanted to hang with him that night? Perhaps Casey is more interested in someone more likely to put out than the goody-goody tease April?

*snake* · 05-17-2015, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

This episode was complete and utter booty. I don't think I can watch the show anymore.

What was so bad about it? I thought it was amazing.

*Coola Yagami* · 05-17-2015, 12:25 PM

Let's not get too hasty. For all we know the episode could start with them trying to find Karai but they run into Renet instead.

*IndigoErth* · 05-17-2015, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

The fact that the Turtles are going to find Renet next episode rather than go after Karai bothers me, considering this now seems like a more immediate threat.

Hadn't heard or read anything about what's coming next, wasn't expecting Renet this soon. o.O I wish they at least somehow tie it in with Karai. (Like going back in time to try to prevent Shredder from taking her as an infant or something.)

They really have gotten into a habit of making it feel like we're jumping around to different chapters rather than 'reading' straight through.

Meliwen · 05-17-2015, 12:34 PM

I thought Casey did almost a little too well when fighting against Karai, even though the fight overall was neat.

Good episode, and I liked how high the stakes were and how the show treated it as such. It was great how they remembered Splinter's injury, I was really not expecting that, although I was half expecting Karai to fight him and use that to her advantage. And the new healing thing is pretty cool. I liked Kirby's insistence to get April to a hospital when Splinter started talking about his ninja magic.

I'm torn between being really happy about Leo's new ability and how awesome he was in this episode (I thought this was a great episode for his character growth), and getting a bit annoyed at how Leo needs to be the hero again, because it feels like he gets that vibe more than the other three turtles. And that's what put me off his character in 2k3, so I hope the rest of the show doesn't follow that same route.

This might be one of my new top fave Leo episodes. I really liked how he beat the poison and then Karai.

*Autbot_Benz* · 05-17-2015, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

This episode was complete and utter booty. I don't think I can watch the show anymore.

It was a good episode

*Vicky82* · 05-17-2015, 12:43 PM

IGN review up

8.4

It deserved more than that.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/05/1...y-venom-review

*neatoman* · 05-17-2015, 12:46 PM

Are we missing an episode here? When and how did Baxter improve Karai's condition? It seems like a big plot point but episode treats it like nothing. I'm also not really sure how Karai's new powers work, does she create snakes or turn into multiple snakes? I'm not really sure if I like Leo's new healing powers, he figured out how to use them a little too quickly seeing how we learned about them this episode, not to mention the fact that we'll probably either get moments where just forgets he has them or Donnie's medical skills are rendered obsolete.

I do like the little moments with April and Casey, Casey and Karai, Splinter's healing session, Kirby's "disapproving daddy" look and Leo learning new skills (despite the fact that think it should have been touched upon in a previous episode and worries about future episodes). I liked the episode, but I really feel like something is missing...

View Poll Results: And now another long wait, another long wait, another long wait.....
Dude, why do you have a pineapple for a head?!	30	37.50%
I call BS on Healing hands - No prior signs, NO explanations, No practice, and Instant mastery!?	31	38.75%
Wow, Casey's a player...	18	22.50%
Who else cringed when Kirby gushed "My sweet baby girl!" in front of Splinter?	1	1.25%
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05-17-2015, 10:04 AM	#41
ObiWanFan4life Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,724	So, Leo is now one bullet-dodging scene away from becoming Neo . But overall, a good episode. __________________ "The force will be with you, always" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

05-17-2015, 10:56 AM	#45
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 14,160	That's odd, My Tivo did not record this episode, Will have to watch it elsewhere. __________________ Follow me on my Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@tygerclaw305

05-17-2015, 11:09 AM	#46
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,803	OH MY GOD!!!!!WOW!!!!! I loved this episode, it was awesome, emotional, scary and so Intense, I was at the edge of my seat and shouting out thoughout the episode and I got so much feels from it. I did not expect all the turtles and April to be poisoned by Karai. Leo was such a badass in this episode. Baxter trying again with the mind control worms, he must of perfected the mind serum. OMG!!!! the worm went into her ear!!!!! Loved the score during Leo and Splinter sparing. Splinter still not 100% from being attacked by Slash. I laughed so much at Mikey wearing that Mask Wow!!! Splinter has healing powers and Leo want's to learn how to use it. April having a bad dream and wakes up with snakes in her bed, WTF!!!!! OMG!!! she's been bitten. I liked the fight between Casey and Karai, pretty cool. That kiss, sadly got leaked early. OMG!!! Kirby carrying April to the lair asking the turtles for help, feels!!!! OMG!!! feels!!!!, April connected to machines and she's getting worse and Donnie can't find a anti venom. Kirby saying he should of taken to the hospital, so you need to explain to the doctor that April was bitten by a girl who was mutated into a snake then, idiot. Raph and Mikey find Casey and Mikey has to try suck the venom out, near Casey's crotch!!!!! WTF!!!! OMG!!!! Snakes in the turtle van!!!! OMG!!! Mikey get's bit, NNNOOO!!!! Raph get's bit too and the van crashes. Karai captures them and lures Leo and Donnie there too. So the venom can be absorbed into the skin too, pretty clever. WTF!!! Donnie has a pinapple for a head, Spongebob reference!!!! Splinter using the healing power to help April, to make her stable, OMG!!! that was an intense moment, I thought she was going to flat line then. Leo using the healing power to help him get bit stronger but he get's bitten twice!!!! I like that Splinter and Leo are both doing the healing at the same time, pretty cool. April is cured. Leo is becoming more badass everytime, he's just awesome in this episode. Leo vs Karai was great. Splinter and Leo healing the other 3 turtles and Casey, feels!!! Poor Leo wanted to help Karai become free from the mind control. Bit of the sad ending but proves the mind control story isn't over yet. Also WTF is this!!!!! __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments. Last edited by Vicky82; 05-17-2015 at 11:29 AM.

05-17-2015, 11:42 AM	#49
kelligrafie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huddersfield, UK Posts: 840	This episode was a tad meh for me and I was really looking forward to having Karai back with us. Again I think the action/fight scenes just about saved it. Is it just me or did the episode seem to be over quicker than usual? And I'm forever done with Kirby. He's such an irritating ninny. Props to the writer for the continuity though. Someone obviously did his research. __________________ "You don't see (Shredder) calling Rahzar 'Chris'." victory_angel "When it's not what I'd like it to be, I still enjoy it." ElectricN Last edited by kelligrafie; 05-17-2015 at 11:52 AM.

05-17-2015, 10:05 AM	#42
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	I wasn't too happy with where this episode was placed. The Karai arc has been spread out all through season 3, and it just feels weird to have it right now and know that the next episode will have nothing to do with her. It felt like it was just to say, "Hey, Karai's still a character."

05-17-2015, 10:54 AM	#44
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,286	TMNT... officially a drinking game. (Youngsters, uh.. just break out a juice box.)

05-17-2015, 11:33 AM	#47
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	This episode was complete and utter booty. I don't think I can watch the show anymore.

05-17-2015, 11:35 AM	#48
Mukouno Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 130	Okay, I'm watching right now and I'm only 2 minutes in... But how did Stockman turn Karai human?! And right after that worm goes in she's suddenly a mutant all over again? What the...

05-17-2015, 11:56 AM	#50
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	The fact that the Turtles are going to find Renet next episode rather than go after Karai bothers me, considering this now seems like a more immediate threat. Also, wouldn't Karai know the lair of the Turtles? I dunno. Ciro said Karai's arc would be more towards the second half of the season, but then again, he said Mutagen Man would have a big part in season 2. The breaks are killing the show. However, the June arc from season 2 (Wrath of Tiger Claw, Kuro Kabuto, Plan 10, Vengeance is Mine) was the best arc out of season 2, so let's hope they have some more good episodes. In all honesty, though, I feel like they need to take a break from adding characters. I hope to god Renet's the last new character of this season.

05-17-2015, 12:04 PM	#51
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	I haven't watched the episode yet, but I'm surprised the show is going in this direction. I feel like most of the TV shows I've watched suffer from some kind of fatigue. I hope Ciro will come back, because I'm curious as to why he said things like Mutagen Man having a big role in Season 2. Something in me tells me that he lied to get us watching, or Nickelodeon vetoed the idea just before it went out. Some of this I blame on Nick, because they really don't seem to care about structure. I love this show, but it's starting to get disorganized. These excuses about showing episodes that aren't serialized so not to confuse kids is ridiculous. The show doesn't need to be heavily serialized, but it still needs to be in perfect order so things fall into place. Going in one episode to have Karai becoming a threat, then to the time travel one, is kind of jarring. The episodes may not be in the correct order. Certain times, the writers get things together. Continuity is hard for them, so moments when they get something right, I'm proud. When they don't, I'm annoyed. To Mukouno: Karai is human because she can shape-shift into one, and transform back to the serpent.

05-17-2015, 12:16 PM	#53
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,646	So um.... were they trying to make another love triangle/rectangle/hexago/whatever with Casey and Karai? Even before she attacked him, he was all over her. Then of all the ways to poison him, she distinctively chose to kiss him? Sure, he was gonna die anyways but um...? I don't mind the kiss all that much, it was a method of attack in this case, but what bugged me was how heavily Casey was hitting on her. What would have happened if she wasn't evil and just wanted to hang with him that night? Perhaps Casey is more interested in someone more likely to put out than the goody-goody tease April? __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

05-17-2015, 12:25 PM	#55
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,646	Let's not get too hasty. For all we know the episode could start with them trying to find Karai but they run into Renet instead. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

05-17-2015, 12:34 PM	#57
Meliwen Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 157	I thought Casey did almost a little too well when fighting against Karai, even though the fight overall was neat. Good episode, and I liked how high the stakes were and how the show treated it as such. It was great how they remembered Splinter's injury, I was really not expecting that, although I was half expecting Karai to fight him and use that to her advantage. And the new healing thing is pretty cool. I liked Kirby's insistence to get April to a hospital when Splinter started talking about his ninja magic. I'm torn between being really happy about Leo's new ability and how awesome he was in this episode (I thought this was a great episode for his character growth), and getting a bit annoyed at how Leo needs to be the hero again, because it feels like he gets that vibe more than the other three turtles. And that's what put me off his character in 2k3, so I hope the rest of the show doesn't follow that same route. This might be one of my new top fave Leo episodes. I really liked how he beat the poison and then Karai.

05-17-2015, 12:43 PM	#59
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,803	IGN review up 8.4 It deserved more than that. http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/05/1...y-venom-review __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.