Captain Planet & the Planeteers

[ninja-zero]

Does anyone remember this old show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyOMYC6mlsY

I would wish there was a reboot of this show. This time they should add a sixth planeteer from Australia.

[chrisdude]

I've always wondered why they wouldn't reboot this. Why this didn't happen at the height of the global warming craze, I'll never know.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

No, it happened at the height of the acid rain/DDT/ozone layer panic. Not much different, actually.

N-Z- WHY would they need a SIXTH??!! It's Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Heart(aka Spirit). There's no other "element" to add there.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

No, it happened at the height of the acid rain/DDT/ozone layer panic. Not much different, actually.

N-Z- WHY would they need a SIXTH??!! It's Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Heart(aka Spirit). There's no other "element" to add there.

they can crossover with jackie chan adventures and use the talismans

[MsMarvelDuckie]

No. Just- no. Two COMPLETELY different spiritual backgrounds. CP was based more on the traditional Western elemental pentad, with a lot of pagan undertones (Geia, for starters) while Jackie Chan is based on Eastern mysticism. While it CAN work with a mesh of the two systems, I doubt any cartoon writers would be bothered enough to understand them enough to understand HOW to make it work. Metaphysical practices and belief systems are distinctly attuned to the cultures that created them, and vice versa. It's like trying to stick the Borg into ET- doesn't really fit.

[ninja-zero]

Well we got five:

- Earth: Africa
- Fire: North America
- Wind: Europe
- Water: Asia
- Heart: South America

Australia would be the best one. For this one's element will be lightning/thunder (violet colored). With that ring it'll give CP a power-boost... perhaps a special set of armor when it comes to some bigger threats from the disturbed environment. He'll start off being a bad guy when he is a slave to Zarm. He goes on a soul journey of redemption yet he does not join the Planeteers fully (goes solo) until later. He has an obsession with destroying Zarm for what he's done to him in taking advantage of his ideals & dreams for helping & changing the world. He can be a love interest for Gi.

The world's in chaos due to ISIS. Still there are also earthquakes, tsunamis & tornadoes, etc.

[sdp]

It's really sad that now being ecological is seen as something negative and hippie bullcrap. We do need a new show like Captain Planet that teaches kids how important it is to take care of our planet, I mean we have a whole new generation that isn't even aware what a big problem it is and all they know about the topic is that there's two sides where some believe it's all a hoax and others say it's important while it's anything but a hoax and it is man made. My generation are the ones who are more conscious about this because we grew up exactly in the era where we saw Captain Planet and many other shows had environmental messages but if the newer generations aren't educated they'll grow up to be ignorant about it like the older generations now that are keeping us from making a change.

For a new version of Captain Planet I always found the idea of having a younger generation of planeteers, the old gang can make special guest appearances but an all new cast. The new show would not be as preachy and be much better written as well after all CP was a product of its time and if there's no changes then wouldn't work at all. CP would also need to have a much smaller role and he wouldn't just fix the problem alone, the emphasis has to be on the planeteers.

[CyberCubed]

This show was pretty bad. They should remake it as an action cartoon.

[ninja-zero]

Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

It's really sad that now being ecological is seen as something negative and hippie bullcrap. We do need a new show like Captain Planet that teaches kids how important it is to take care of our planet, I mean we have a whole new generation that isn't even aware what a big problem it is and all they know about the topic is that there's two sides where some believe it's all a hoax and others say it's important while it's anything but a hoax and it is man made. My generation are the ones who are more conscious about this because we grew up exactly in the era where we saw Captain Planet and many other shows had environmental messages but if the newer generations aren't educated they'll grow up to be ignorant about it like the older generations now that are keeping us from making a change.

For a new version of Captain Planet I always found the idea of having a younger generation of planeteers, the old gang can make special guest appearances but an all new cast. The new show would not be as preachy and be much better written as well after all CP was a product of its time and if there's no changes then wouldn't work at all. CP would also need to have a much smaller role and he wouldn't just fix the problem alone, the emphasis has to be on the planeteers.

I think I'll agree you on that. But I'll wish for a sixth planeteer added this time.

[ssjup81]

I loved this show as a kid. I liked when they redesigned the characters though. The only thing I didn't like about the show was Captain Planet himself, ironically. I liked the Planeteers.

[pennydreadful]

Lies and slander - Captain Planet was awesome to the max. I have it on DVD.

An Australian Planeteer is only allowed if they use an actual Australian for the voice acting. There is nothing more cringe-worthy to an Australian than an American interpretation of what they think our accents are (based on repeated viewings of Crocodile Dundee and The Crocodile Hunter).

[ninja-zero]

Kwame: Wielding earth, he would help all of nature and its environment.

Wheeler: Wielding fire, he'll burn down all those who harm the planet.

Linka: Wielding wind, she'll rid the world of pollution and protect all animals and birds.

Gi: Wielding water, protect all marine life.

Ma-Ti: Wielding heart, he'll help all those who can't protect themselves.

The newest member of the team from Australia:

Zhane (new): Wielding lightning/thunder, seeing slavery, imprisonment, war, discrimination, he'll do anything to strike down the evil ones who mistreat the innocent and those with good rights against evil. Protecting even the churches who believe in truth. Protect all Christians persecuted.

[pennydreadful]

I like the lightning idea, but ya kinda lost me with that last part.

[ninja-zero]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I like the lightning idea, but ya kinda lost me with that last part.

Which was that?

[sdp]

I think this is a stealth fanfic thread about a sixth planeteer disguised as a discussion thread.

[pennydreadful]

While there were definitely episodes where the Planeteers tackled social issues - like drugs and AIDS - their primary focus was on ecological issues. That was what made the Planeteers unique - their mission was to prevent deforestation, pollution, poaching, and provide education on ecologically sustainable practices (as well as relevant animal rights issues like animal testing for makeup).

If you broaden the scope too much to address issues like human trafficking, racism, war, slavery, discrimination, I feel you take away from the Planeteers' main mission. They're all important issues, and all things worth fighting for, but the Planeteers can't be all things to all people - otherwise they're generic superheroes. What made the Planeteers stand out was that they were specifically devoted to environmentalism. If you throw in too much, then they become the Social Justice Warrior Vegan Planeteers with Left-wing Political Leanings and Religious Messages.

Kinda hard to fit that into a theme song, y'know?

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

There is nothing more cringe-worthy to an Australian than an American interpretation of what they think our accents are (based on repeated viewings of Crocodile Dundee and The Crocodile Hunter).

Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhh riiiiiigggggght, you all sound like that. Shut up.

[ninja-zero]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

While there were definitely episodes where the Planeteers tackled social issues - like drugs and AIDS - their primary focus was on ecological issues. That was what made the Planeteers unique - their mission was to prevent deforestation, pollution, poaching, and provide education on ecologically sustainable practices (as well as relevant animal rights issues like animal testing for makeup).

If you broaden the scope too much to address issues like human trafficking, racism, war, slavery, discrimination, I feel you take away from the Planeteers' main mission. They're all important issues, and all things worth fighting for, but the Planeteers can't be all things to all people - otherwise they're generic superheroes. What made the Planeteers stand out was that they were specifically devoted to environmentalism. If you throw in too much, then they become the Social Justice Warrior Vegan Planeteers with Left-wing Political Leanings and Religious Messages.

Kinda hard to fit that into a theme song, y'know?

But that would be the best thing!

The world's gone to chaos, and with Captain Planet if it'll become a reboot, they gotta deliver good messages and encouraging ones to those in need.

The sixth planeteer would be involved in stopping terrorism all over the world while searching for Zarm's trail. Those who are suffering from war and those suffering from false religious rule.

Speaking of CP, favorite episodes you guys remember? I loved the ones about...
- The beginning
- The fake dragon
- Captain Pollution
- The cosmetics
- Traveling through time in the Western cowboy days

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by ninja-zero

Well we got five:

- Earth: Africa
- Fire: North America
- Wind: Europe
- Water: Asia
- Heart: South America

Australia would be the best one. For this one's element will be lightning/thunder (violet colored). With that ring it'll give CP a power-boost... perhaps a special set of armor when it comes to some bigger threats from the disturbed environment. He'll start off being a bad guy when he is a slave to Zarm. He goes on a soul journey of redemption yet he does not join the Planeteers fully (goes solo) until later. He has an obsession with destroying Zarm for what he's done to him in taking advantage of his ideals & dreams for helping & changing the world. He can be a love interest for Gi.

The world's in chaos due to ISIS. Still there are also earthquakes, tsunamis & tornadoes, etc.

Erm, dude, I think maybe you might not quite understand what the Planeteers were all about.

FIRST- They were ECO-heroes, not the Social Justice League. Their entire mission was LITERALLY "Save the planet from corrupt/evil big business and eco-crime". That's IT. They weren't out to stop drug-dealers (unless they were using the money to bulldoze rainforests to build shopping malls or whatever) or religious terrorists, or- just NO. Also, it really doesn't matter what continent any of them is from, they were chosen because they represented the largest eco-territories on Earth. Each came from a land that had not only vast regions under their influence, but were also in the most ecological danger from human activities. Australia is and has for YEARS been on the forefront of ecological progress and stewardship, so it doesn't really qualify on either of those counts!

SECOND!! (And more importantly) Lightening is NOT an element. Not in Eastern OR Western elemental metaphysical traditions. Lightening is a combination of TWO elements- Fire and Air. Even in Eastern tradition, the Five elements are: Fire, Earth, Water, Wood and Metal. Even the I-Ching of lightening is the combined Trigrams (symbols used in I-Ching) for Fire and Heaven(Air). Video game elemental systems aside, lightening is not and has NEVER been considered an element of its own. It's a manifestation of Fire/Air combined. Please learn the difference before attempting to add misinformed concepts to something that was never meant to include such concepts. Captain Planet was the "human" personification of the metaphysical elements combined into a living body, a literal "Guardian Spirit Protector" of Earth, just as Geia herself WAS the "Spirit of Earth" aka Mother Nature (and a Greek/Roman goddess, I might add!) The reason the Planeteers used those five elements is that they are the classical elements of alchemy and ancient pagan spiritual beliefs. Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Akasha, or Spirit (aka Heart in CPatP.) There ARE NO other elements. (Eastern traditions excepted- they use Wood in place of Air, and Metal in place of Spirit. But that is because of their spiritual focus being very different from Western traditions.)

THIRD: CP being the Guardian Spirit he is (Geia's "Champion", basically) is the essence of protection of life and nature as a living force. He is not simply a superhero, he IS a being tied directly to the Earth, so has no place as a "Warrior for Justice and Religion". And that includes his ties to Geia herself, having a mental/spirit "bond" directly to her. He's basically her fighting arm.

Originally Posted by ninja-zero

Kwame: Wielding earth, he would help all of nature and its environment.

Wheeler: Wielding fire, he'll burn down all those who harm the planet.

Linka: Wielding wind, she'll rid the world of pollution and all animals, mostly birds.

Gi: Wielding water, protect all marine life.

Ma-Ti: Wielding heart, he'll help all those who can't protect themselves.

The newest member of the team from Australia:

Zhane (new): Wielding lightning/thunder, seeing slavery, imprisonment, war, discrimination, he'll do anything to strike down the evil ones who mistreat the innocent and those with good rights against evil. Protecting even the churches who believe in truth. Protect all Christians persecuted.

The five canon Planeteers were chosen because they embodied the qualities of their elements. There is no metaphysical element of lightening, so one can't actually "embody" something that is itself already made of two different elements. Do some actual research on elemental studies, please.

Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

I think this is a stealth fanfic thread about a sixth planeteer disguised as a discussion thread.

Yeah, I kind of think the same thing.

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

While there were definitely episodes where the Planeteers tackled social issues - like drugs and AIDS - their primary focus was on ecological issues. That was what made the Planeteers unique - their mission was to prevent deforestation, pollution, poaching, and provide education on ecologically sustainable practices (as well as relevant animal rights issues like animal testing for makeup).

If you broaden the scope too much to address issues like human trafficking, racism, war, slavery, discrimination, I feel you take away from the Planeteers' main mission. They're all important issues, and all things worth fighting for, but the Planeteers can't be all things to all people - otherwise they're generic superheroes. What made the Planeteers stand out was that they were specifically devoted to environmentalism. If you throw in too much, then they become the Social Justice Warrior Vegan Planeteers with Left-wing Political Leanings and Religious Messages.

Kinda hard to fit that into a theme song, y'know?

This is not how I would have put it, but yes. Agreed on ALL counts. That, plus the Planeteers served to protect the five MAJOR continents, all of which are far more ecologically endangered than Aussie-land. (Something for which you should take pride in your home, penny! You guys "get it", ecologically speaking.)

[sdp]

To be fair, heart isn't an element and CP did tackle other issues besides ecology before including gay marriage, in fact the official CP FB page got in trouble for that very reason a couple of weeks ago. Of course the main focus is on being green and any reboot should do that but an episode here or there with some other social issue would be fine. Terrorism makes zero sense though and with today's political climate CP would already be in a lot of heat for being too preachy and a bad cartoon for kids with bad messages, so anything additional to the green message might spell its doom. Also the planeteers were chosen specifically because they wanted the message to go around the world and Latin America/Asia(china)/Africa/Russia were chosen for those reasons and it's also some of the emerging economies that were about to pollute (and now they are), and of course America. Australia didn't really need a representative. Even then they tried to be very general about it, asian/latin american etc to appeal to every country.

Without Ted Turner though I don't see anyone caring enough to make this show though since the original only ran because of his ideology and didn't care if it didn't make money as long as it was out there. You won't see that at Time-Warner anytime soon.