Captain Planet & the Planeteers - Page 2

*pennydreadful* · 05-25-2015, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhh riiiiiigggggght, you all sound like that. Shut up.

Oi, nah mate! Don't come the raw prawn with me, I'll farken dawg ya, ya poof!

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

That, plus the Planeteers served to protect the five MAJOR continents, all of which are far more ecologically endangered than Aussie-land. (Something for which you should take pride in your home, penny! You guys "get it", ecologically speaking.)

Australia has a pretty good awareness of eco-responsibility, probably because we have so many unique animal species which can't be found anywhere else. That being said, I personally think there's a lot we can do to improve; we have the worst mammal extinction rate in the world. Unfortunately this is mostly down to introduced species screwing up the eco-system and feral carnivores and herbivores. IMO, laws need to be introduced to make sure that cats are kept inside (no exceptions), spaying/neutering must be mandatory and we need to come up with a humane solution to our feral cat problem - I'm a huge cat lover and we have a terrible feral cat problem over here; we've got an estimated 18 million feral cats (as opposed to a bit over 2 million household cats). It's an awful situation because you can't blame the cats for doing what they do - they have to hunt if they want to survive; at the same time, a lot of our native fauna aren't cut out to deal with a predator like them and the cats themselves have hardly any predators other than foxes (sometimes), wedge-tail eagles and dingoes. Although the cats did help with the rabbit problem, since they were another introduced species who messed things up for our local critters.

Feral foxes are another problem in that they're rough on the wildlife - feral foxes will sometimes eat feral cats but then the cats avoid the areas that have foxes which means the foxes then turn to the wildlife for food.

There's also the problem of our dingo population being utterly screwed - all of our pureblood dingoes are almost gone; if pure dingo populations were re-boosted it could help to control the cat and fox populations. If we also reduced the amount of livestock grazing, there would be more ground-cover for small mammals to hide from cats.

There's really no way to eradicate the feral cat population because there's no way to bait the entire continent (not to mention, that's completely inhumane and would kill other natural Australian predators). We have a lot of people who think that the solution is to just shoot all the feral cats - again, that's inhumane and ineffective. Australia is actually pretty unfriendly towards cats; we get a lot of really cruel cat-torture cases over here - they've basically been scapegoated as a result of human stupidity.

The Great Barrier Reef is also adversely being affected by climate change, though this is something that our government is actively working on, which is good.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 05-25-2015, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

To be fair, heart isn't an element and CP did tackle other issues besides ecology before including gay marriage, in fact the official CP FB page got in trouble for that very reason a couple of weeks ago. Of course the main focus is on being green and any reboot should do that but an episode here or there with some other social issue would be fine. Terrorism makes zero sense though and with today's political climate CP would already be in a lot of heat for being too preachy and a bad cartoon for kids with bad messages, so anything additional to the green message might spell its doom. Also the planeteers were chosen specifically because they wanted the message to go around the world and Latin America/Asia(china)/Africa/Russia were chosen for those reasons and it's also some of the emerging economies that were about to pollute (and now they are), and of course America. Australia didn't really need a representative. Even then they tried to be very general about it, asian/latin american etc to appeal to every country.

Technically, Heart is CP's version of "Akasha(Spirit)". It's just a different interpretation of the same concept and "element". Doesn't really matter that it was called Heart, it's the "human" element, if you follow. The element of the soul, if you will. So it still fits into the basic frame of the classic elements. I give it a pass, because Heart is easier to grasp for kids than Spirit. Though they could have just as easily called it Will or something similar.

And yeah, I agree that if they did a reboot, it should update to include more modern environmental and perhaps a FEW social issues. (Mostly dealing with things like hunger, education, and other things that could tie into the main theme.)

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Australia has a pretty good awareness of eco-responsibility, probably because we have so many unique animal species which can't be found anywhere else. That being said, I personally think there's a lot we can do to improve; we have the worst mammal extinction rate in the world. Unfortunately this is mostly down to introduced species screwing up the eco-system and feral carnivores and herbivores. IMO, laws need to be introduced to make sure that cats are kept inside (no exceptions), spaying/neutering must be mandatory and we need to come up with a humane solution to our feral cat problem- I'm a huge cat lover and we have a terrible feral cat problem over here; we've got an estimated 18 million feral cats (as opposed to a bit over 2 million household cats). It's an awful situation because you can't blame the cats for doing what they do- they have to hunt if they want to survive; at the same time, a lot of our native fauna aren't cut out to deal with a predator like them and the cats themselves have hardly any predators other than foxes (sometimes), wedge-tail eagles and dingoes. Although the cats did help with the rabbit problem, since they were another introduced species who messed things up for our local critters.

Feral foxes are another problem in that they're rough on the wildlife- feral foxes will sometimes eat feral cats but then the cats avoid the areas that have foxes which means the foxes then turn to the wildlife for food.

There's also the problem of our dingo population being utterly screwed- all of our pureblood dingoes are almost gone; if pure dingo populations were re-boosted it could help to control the cat and fox populations. If we also reduced the amount of livestock grazing, there would be more ground-cover for small mammals to hide from cats.

There's really no way to eradicate the feral cat population because there's no way to bait the entire continent (not to mention, that's completely inhumane and would kill other natural Australian predators). We have a lot of people who think that the solution is to just shoot all the feral cats- again, that's inhumane and ineffective. Australia is actually pretty unfriendly towards cats; we get a lot of really cruel cat-torture cases over here- they've basically been scapegoated as a result of human stupidity.

The Great Barrier Reef is also adversely being affected by climate change, though this is something that our government is actively working on, which is good.

Yeah, I'm aware of the cat, fox, and rabbit problems (and mice and rats, too, apparently- YIKES!), but sadly, those have been issues for generations, ever since the first European settlers there. But on the other hand, like you mentioned, Australia DOES actively work to protect and preserve its native wild species and diversity, particularly in the bush and the Great Barrier. I know they have made stricter environmental laws than almost any nation on Earth, and the work being done to protect the reefs and various marsupial species is phenomenal compared to most of the world's concern (or lack thereof). Environmentally speaking, it's one of the most progressive and active governments and cultures in the world. (USA tries, but we have so much red-tape, government corruption and agendas, and big business paying authorities to look the other way or make laws more lenient or even reversing them that it is just- ugh.)

ninja-zero · 05-25-2015, 09:28 AM

Heart seems to be light. If this show was rebooted and added the "sixth planeteer" it's gotta someone connected to dark. I'm not talkin' about Captain Pollution since Hate is connected to him.

I'm talkin' about anything.... shadow.

~~Leo656~~ · 05-25-2015, 11:48 AM

I want one of those Whatever The F*ck That Is in penny's picture.

*sdp* · 05-25-2015, 03:58 PM

no, no. just no. no f-cking 6th planeteer.

*pennydreadful* · 05-25-2015, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I want one of those Whatever The F*ck That Is in penny's picture.

Red kanga, mate! They're farken grouse, eh?!

~~Leo656~~ · 05-25-2015, 05:36 PM

Zat what dat iz? Wow.

That whole place really IS like something out of a video game, huh?

*pennydreadful* · 05-25-2015, 06:39 PM

You know, the funny thing is that we actually don't think of our country as particularly dangerous - most of the wildlife over here that can kill you is pretty small; you guys get killed by mountain lions and bears while you're jogging or camping! Which seems waaaay more extreme.

Over here, it's more "wear boots and watch where you put your feet and don't shove your hands in places where there could be spiders or snakes". And watch out for magpies during nesting season. Leave cassowaries and red kangaroos alone (the greys are fairly safe).

And don't go swimming in places where there are saltwater crocs. And know what poisonous/chompy thingies to look out for if you're at the beach (which I avoid by being a thoroughly non-beach-going person!).

Also, America has absolutely terrifying possums. Ours are cute and adorable:

and yours are these scary looking demon-rats:

I know that they're apparently totally different species - yours are something called an opossum: I like to think that the 'o' stands for 'oh my god get it away from me!".

~~Leo656~~ · 05-25-2015, 06:41 PM

Yeah, but... Drop Bears...

*pennydreadful* · 05-25-2015, 07:49 PM

Drop bears aren't usually anything to worry about unless you're a tourist; it's been scientifically proven that they're less likely to attack people with Australian accents. When you're in the bush, just wear a protective hard-hat and sing Cold Chisel or AC/DC songs as loudly as you can; you're usually pretty safe. Some people have tried belting out a few classics by Midnight Oil but I've heard the results can be iffy.

What you've really got to worry about is funnel web spiders. They're super-aggressive (try taking one on with a broom and it will come after you), will bite you more than once, can survive being submerged in water for over 24 hours (making them very hard to drown) and their fangs are strong enough to bite through fingernails and soft shoes.

Hilariously, they're practically of no danger at all to cats or dogs, but if you're human, they can f*ck your sh*t up.

~~Leo656~~ · 05-25-2015, 08:21 PM

You're awesome.

And f*ck ALL spiders! ALL of them!

*ProactiveMan* · 05-25-2015, 11:18 PM

Bozhe moi! I fear that a modern Captain Planet would try to be all things to all men and confuse the kids. For all the crap the original gets for being naive and simplistic, you do walk away from it thinking about basic environmental issues, because of its simplicity.

Can you imagine the political process involved in producing a 20XX version, not to mention all the masters a show like that would have to please to get on TV.

Also.. maybe I should keep this to myself, but I held a serious candle for Dr Blight in my youth.

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

An Australian Planeteer is only allowed if they use an actual Australian for the voice acting.

Seconded. They always end up closer to New Zealand or Afrikaans than Australian, but I won't pretend that it's not funny.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 05-25-2015, 11:20 PM

Loved this show as a kid

~~Leo656~~ · 05-25-2015, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ProactiveMan

you do walk away from it thinking about basic environmental issues, because of its simplicity.

Maybe YOU do. I always walked away from it wanting to bang Linka.

*ProactiveMan* · 05-26-2015, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Maybe YOU do. I always walked away from it wanting to bang Linka.

The show succeeded either way. "Hey kids, a girl you like is into environmentalism? Well I guess your into environmentalism now too!!! Go Planet!"

ninja-zero · 05-26-2015, 08:58 AM

True five elements are the originals. But I still think a 6th should appear and have a ring that possesses one of the mixed elements and act as a power boost for CP.

*Netkeeper* · 05-26-2015, 08:58 AM

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